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Benjamin Smith
( bugbomb - BPL STAFF - M)

Locale:
South Texas
Ultralight Outfitters Lightning Access Backpack REVIEW (Tanya Warnecke) on 07/17/2007 21:17:27 MDT Print

Companion forum thread to:

Ultralight Outfitters Lightning Access Backpack REVIEW

Edited by bugbomb on 07/17/2007 21:35:09 MDT.

kevin davidson
( kdesign )

Locale:
Mythical State of Jefferson
Lightning Access Review on 07/17/2007 21:25:54 MDT Print

Hmmm, a large (nearly 70L) pack rated to only comfortably carry 20lbs.
As Queen Victoria used to say, "We are not amused".

A nice premise that might be better in a smaller, lighter package more in fitting with the UL ethos.

Miguel D Arboleda
( butuki - M)

Locale:
Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: Lightning Access Review on 07/18/2007 00:40:27 MDT Print

Some work on fitting and ergonomics might be "fitting", too! When was the last time I wore a pack that hung down over my bum like that?

Mark Larson
( mlarson - M)

Locale:
Southeast USA
Re: Re: Lightning Access Review on 07/18/2007 07:54:21 MDT Print

Someone help me out, please. I only see 2 side pockets? Where are the other 5? I read the article and stared at the photos for a while, but I still don't get it.

Interesting design, though. Hopefully it will go through some more iterations and get the kinks out.
-Mark

Benjamin Tang
( ben2world )

Locale:
So Cal
Re: Wearing It Too Low??? on 07/18/2007 11:15:34 MDT Print

Miguel:

That's the first thing I noticed! Tanya seems to be wearing her pack too low. Also, the pack droops down a lot below the hip belt! Butt kick?

I'm wondering if lining the pack with a sleeping bag instead of sleeping pad like most other frameless packs is the reason for the overall droopiness?

And yeah, a definite mis-match between pack capacity and pack carrying ability.

Edited by ben2world on 07/18/2007 11:30:33 MDT.

Brett .
( Brett1234 )

Locale:
Japan
Ultralight Outfitters Lightning Access Backpack REVIEW on 07/30/2007 03:31:46 MDT Print

Honestly I've never worn this pack, nor even seen it anywhere, but it looks like it wears like a saggy, sloppy mess. First re-design point, move the pack body up above the waist belt; as Miguel also noted. Looks like they tried to use external compression straps a-la granite gear, or something.. Please, will the designer of this pack join the conversation so we can assist?

bemany pife
( BemanyPife )
it works on 05/10/2008 20:56:08 MDT Print

Okay it looks odd, but it works.

The pockets are layered in the two "side" pockets, which actualy is one large pocket that hangs on the bottom of the pack kinda like a tube (hence the "droopyness"). there is also one pocket onthe top cap, which can be reached while wearing it.

Though to be fair this lady is wearing and using the pack completely wrong.

This video shoud help with the pockets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHi0g5eZWP8

also here is a diagram:

http://www.ultralightoutfitters.com/homeproducts.jpg


The extra volume is there due to the fact that: you just stuff it full then compress everything at once; rather than stuffing a bunch of sacs first.
Also this video will show you how to compress it properly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYi6flIGP4


It's not a perfect pack, as stated the Ultra-ultralight fabric on the back of the pack is sort of questionable. I don't really see the point of it, how many onces did it really save, 1 maybe?

While we are on the subject of fabrics, why is it not Dyneema ripstop? Also it's only available in one color, and it is not a great color. And all this for $180 bucks?

yes, I agree it's overpriced; I agree it's a bit on the heavier side of ultralight ( lets get real though it still is rediclously light compared to most other packs.) Yet I like the compression pack idea (easier packing less stuff sacks that add wieght), and the pockets DO work just as advertized.

Edited by BemanyPife on 05/10/2008 21:03:07 MDT.