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Marmot Scree (softshell pants)

in Clothing - Wind & Soft Shell

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4.00 / 5 (1 reviews)

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Matt Lutz
( citystuckhiker )

Marmot Scree (softshell pants) on 10/20/2009 09:50:35 MDT Report Post Print

Rating: 4 / 5

There is so much to love about these pants, but the little details kill any possibility of a 5 rating. So 4 it is.

The good:

The pants are made of Marmot's proprietary M3 fabric, which is a stretch, non-laminate softshell fabric with DWR. The fabric breathes well in weather from 45 degrees (F) and below. The fabric offers reasonable wind protection, but it is not like the wind protection windpants, laminate-type softshell or hardshell pants offer.

The DWR is reasonable, but like all softshells, it will wet-out under high exertion or constant, wet precipitation (whether rain or snow). I have wet the fabric out in high 20s temps under constant wet snowfall during high-exertion snowshoeing. However, this is to be expected and the pants dried quickly overnight.

My pair weighs 15.17oz/430g and is true to size. The pants are designed to fit around your true waist, thus making pant cuffs cover the tops of your shoes. There are two front pockets, a right thigh pocket and a rear right butt pocket.

Also, the cost of the pants is reasonable - I picked up my pair for $80 at, and they retail for only $100.

The not so good:

The pants cuffs have an ankle zipper and snap closure to assist in getting the pants on and off. Also, the cuffs have a drawcord to cinch the cuffs around one's ankles.

Because these are softshell pants, they are designed for colder weather, particularly where there is snow on the ground. I use these pants in fringe seasons and in winter under these conditions. During these season, I either have over-the-calf gaiters or full-on winter boots (over-the-calf mukluks). During these seasons, I will likely wear a pair of thin base layer bottoms underneath the pants.

With this in mind, the ankle zips are nice when taking the pants off, but they are unnecessary. In winter, I may not even take the pants off. (See Mike C!'s long and cold winter expedition list.) In fringe seasons, I may or may not take the pants off.

On the same line, the drawcord is also unnecessary. Especially with gaiters on, the drawcord is useless - the gaiters become the exterior layer and keep out snow. In colder temperatures, I want loose clothing around my feet and ankles - not restrictive ones.

Also, during the daytime, both of these features are covered by high gaiters, making them useful only when the gaiters are off - the beginning or end of the day.

In addition, the pockets are not sewn in on the bottom, and can pull out or invert when retrieving an object from them - particularly with gloves hands.

Finally, after one season of use, I have experienced some pilling on the exterior area of the fly for reasons unknown.

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