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by Ryan Jordan | 2008-10-24 10:31:00-06

Backpacking Light Magazine Announces Discontinuation of Print Version

It is with mixed emotions that we announce today the discontinuation of what has been one of our flagship products since 2004: the print magazine. Details behind this decision can be found in the press release.

While it's a sad day, it's one worthy of positive reflection as well.

Issue 1's humble roots featured the article “Backpacking Alaska” by Peter Vacco, the first person to have walked the length of the Continental Divide from Mexico to the Chukchi Sea. Kevin Sawchuk wrote of his fastpacking trek across 200 miles of the JMT in four days in Issue 2. Justin Lichter's beautiful photography from the Great Divide Trail graced the pages of Issue 3, and Brian Frankle's contemplative cover of Issue 4 inspired us to discover our own Haydukes in the desert. Issue 5 featured a blazing Bushbuddy on the cover and began to focus on critical issues facing wilderness advocates: road building and commercialization of our National Parks. Issue 6 highlighted both the serious side of wilderness (the roadless Absarokas) and the very serious side of wilderness (lightweight techniques for brewing coffee), while Issue 7 featured Jason Geck swimming the Ipnavik River en route to his 500+ mile traverse of the Alaskan Arctic without resupply. We celebrated the grandest of wilderness residents, the grizzly bear, in Issue 8, packrafting in Issue 9, and BPL's Wilderness Trekking School in Issue 10. Issue 11 (to be mailed in mid-November) will feature the best photography we've ever published, and its final page is a fitting end to our print run: a photo of my 10-year old son, Chase, sitting down exhausted on the side of the trail after hiking late into the evening (photo above).

I sort of feel like Chase did in that photo when it comes to the print magazine: feeling rewarded for hiking a hard journey, but rather exhausted.

But like Chase did a few minutes after that photo was taken, I'll get up, grab a handful of GORP, start walking again, and BPL will continue its journey – this time, however, with a bit more focus. I'm really excited to move forward and redirect energy on things we've neglected in the past because of the print magazine: the website, our online content, and continued gear and apparel design and development. I'm also eager to lessen our energy footprint and minimizing printed waste is a large part of that.

I'm grateful for all of your support during our print magazine publishing run. It's a project I'm proud to have delivered to customers, and I know that I'll treasure my own copies while they occupy a pretty special spot on my bookshelf.

Godspeed,
Ryan Jordan
Publisher


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Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 11:52:55 MDT Print View

Backpacking Light to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development

Bozeman, Mont. - October 24, 2008 – Beartooth Media Group, Inc., announced today that it will suspend production of its print magazine (and the Zinio.com digital edition of that print magazine), Backpacking Light. Other operations, including its website, BackpackingLight.com, its book publishing division (“Beartooth Mountain Press”), and the Backpacking Light range of house-branded gear and apparel, will remain business as usual.

Issue 11 will be the final issue mailed to domestic (U.S.) subscribers and issue 10 will be the final issue mailed to international subscribers. All issues remain available for single copy purchase at BackpackingLight.com, and Issues 9-11 will remain available at existing newsstand locations throughout the U.S.

Reasons for discontinuing production of the print magazine include: rising costs, inability to meet production schedules, industry-wide declines in print media advertising and subscription revenues, increasing pressure from subscribers to have a “lightweight” footprint on the environment true to the company's vision, and the desire to refocus the company's energy back to its online media roots.

The company's President and CEO, Ryan Jordan, cites the current economic recession as a major factor in this decision. “Printing, transportation, and fulfillment cost increases over the past few years make publishing a print magazine of our size at an affordable price impossible without advertising,” Jordan said. “Now that advertisers are moving more of their ad dollars online, the ability to produce a high-quality, short run, niche publication requires substantial costs. It's not fair to our long-time customers, including our gear shop and online subscribers, to divert their dollars to unprofitable projects.”

In addition, the company has found it increasingly difficult to reconcile their print magazine footprint with their vision as an industry environmental leader. “We promote sustainability and responsible resource usage,” comments Jordan. “It's hard to do that when retailers and magazine distributors are destroying unsold copies of the magazine, and subscribers are throwing them away.” Jordan continues, “The printing industry is the fourth largest emitter of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere. Add to this the the monumental transportation costs required to deliver printed matter from the factory to distributors, retailers, and subscribers, and the combined tax upon energy levels is pretty dramatic. We can't in good conscience be a part of that simply to increase our sales base and to serve the decreasing number of subscribers that demand that their information be delivered in print. The outdoor industry's addiction to paper – magazines, catalogs, hang tags – is completely counterproductive to their long term sustainability. We've made the decision to break away from that herd.”

Jordan states that the complexity of producing a print magazine has also taken its toll on the resources of a company that already produces one of the outdoor industry's largest web sites, manages a book publishing division, and its own brand of outdoor gear and apparel. “The print magazine was an experiment that diverted resources away from our core activities. Now it's time to end the experiment and reinvest our resources into serving and building our core business, and serving those customers that have been such an instrumental part of growing our company. As hard as it is to end the print magazine, it's an exciting time because we have so much to look forward to in the future. Keeping the print magazine afloat has inhibited us from doing some of the other things that we really wanted to do for our customers.” One of those things, cites Jordan, is expanding the depth and diversity of the editorial content published online at BackpackingLight.com.

Subscribers holding unfulfilled subscriptions will not be left in the dark. “We are committed to making sure that every subscriber to the print magazine will be taken care of,” says Karen Wilson, Backpacking Light's Customer Service Manager. “We have a subscription conversion and refund program in place that has already been communicated to our print subscribers.”

Backpacking Light was founded in 2001 and rapidly established itself as a leading online publisher in the outdoor industry during a time when other outdoor magazines were struggling with their identity. Jordan claims that outdoor magazines still haven't quite figured out how to respond to economic and environmental pressures. “As for Backpacking Light, we have no identity crisis anymore,” says Jordan. “We know what has worked, what our subscribers want, and where to go from here. I'm really excited for the future.”

Jordan provided further commentary in an article published at BackpackingLight.com this morning.

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Print magazine, what print magazine? on 10/24/2008 12:21:41 MDT Print View

I became an online and print member in May of this year.
I've never received a print magazine yet!
Won't make much difference to me then. I love paying for nothing!

Valentin Zill
(Valentin.Zill) - F

Locale: Europe
Sad thing on 10/24/2008 12:23:26 MDT Print View

Supending the Print mag makes me sad and angry at the same time, because your "refund policy" is worth nothing for me as an international customer. I've just ordered something a couple of hours ago, don't need anything else in the next months, means I can't use that coupon. And by the way, I never received issues 9 and 10!!! I don't think I'm gonna do business with you again. Fooling myself is cheaper. You should call Grant Sible and Ron Bell, they could teach you A LOT about customer service.

And btw: do you know how much energy is used just by pushing the "search" button on Google? The whole internet thing is not that environmentally responsible at all!

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Re: Sad thing on 10/24/2008 12:26:05 MDT Print View

@Valentin: please review the policy carefully. You are entitled to a cash refund in lieu of the coupon of course, for the value of your prorated unfulfilled subscription. And if you have not been receiving issues, then you should be contacting customer service, so that we can at least find out what went wrong and have the opportunity to honor our commitment to resolve your complaint.

Edited by ryan on 10/24/2008 12:28:07 MDT.

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Re: Print magazine, what print magazine? on 10/24/2008 12:35:47 MDT Print View

@MikefaeDundee: if you did not receive copies of the magazine since May, then there may be a problem with your subscription record information. Please contact customer service so they can help you find out what's going on.

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Noooooooooo! on 10/24/2008 13:00:46 MDT Print View

I understand all of the so-called "reasons" for the decision, but I can't help but feel a deep sense of loss. There's nothing like thumbing through those crisp, brightly-colored pages as I lounge under my reading lamp, dreaming of the outdoors - I only hope that it might come back someday. If anybody needs me, I'll be quietly sobbing into my high-loft apparel, dampening it and ruining its insulating properties. Do you see what you've done!

Robert Stanek
(rstanek) - M

Locale: Southeast, Atlanta, GA
Bravo! on 10/24/2008 13:03:19 MDT Print View

While I enjoy and subscribe to several magazines, I find the snippets of info on this site to be what I enjoy most, including quality feedback from members in the forums.

Honestly, the digital versions of the mag left something to be desired.

Not quite National Geographic quality (no offense meant to either party). I find digital mags to be difficult to read and digest in that particular format. I either like the full rag, or to seek smaller articles online.

So, in my case, I think you made a good choice here.

I'd enjoy seeing BPL put a little more focus on the web site as that's how I found BPL in the first place. The forums could be a bit more user friendly, and I'd love to see the site become more mobile enabled. (Yes, while occasionaly bored and without a good book, I'll read the forums on my Treo).

I also think you could find a happier medium for the yearly subscription price. My personal feeling is your "sweet spot" is more than $10, but less than $20.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for all that you do.

Blue _
(lrmblue) - MLife

Locale: Northeast (New England)
Print Magazine--R.I.P on 10/24/2008 13:05:08 MDT Print View

Even though the magazine was unreliable in meeting its scheduled publishing dates I am very sad to see it go. The quality of the magazine seemed to grow more mature with every issue and I had hopes that someday it would become something like the original “Backpacker Magazine” (during the early issues under William Kemsley). In any case, thanks for giving the venture an honest try and for having the courage to admit that it wasn’t working well enough to continue when it clearly wasn’t. I’m glad I will have a complete set in my library, assuming Issue 10 ever arrives and Issue 11 eventually finds its way to my mailbox– sorry, I couldn’t resist ;-).

Of course, now without the print magazine I am expecting even greater things online. Embrace the contradiction: Lightweight Backpacking—Heavyweight Content.

Edited by lrmblue on 10/24/2008 13:07:48 MDT.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 13:07:28 MDT Print View

Keep in mind that our editorial content will now simply be delivered through the backpackinglight.com Web site rather than in a magazine. Think of this as being just one less place you have to look for good content ; )

David Dixon
(Talusman)
Think this through please on 10/24/2008 13:12:57 MDT Print View

The fair thing to have done was not to have breached your contracts with those readers whom you promised print magazines. You can't legally or ethically make a change of policy retroactive in order to intentionally breach your contract and actually believe that no damages have resulted. The print magazine was the main reason I have continued, with some ambivalence, to subscribe.

Andrew Skurka
(askurka) - F
Thoughts on print on 10/24/2008 13:18:56 MDT Print View

Having a loose official relationship with BPL makes me slightly biased, but, Ryan, I think this is overall a wise decision and the reimbursement program seems very fair. When magazines fold they usually screw over the subscriber, but I'm pleased to read that BPL is taking a long-term and honorable view about it -- it says something about the company I think. (Whether everyone reads the full policy before commenting angrily on this thread is another issue...").

The most important benefit of terminating the print magazine is that BPL can focus entirely on the website, which has always been BPL's core in the eyes of nearly all subscribers, staff, and contributors. True, a print magazine could expand the reach of BPL and lightweight backpacking, and eventually grow BPL's bottom line more than the online version. But print requires A LOT of resources (time, money, energy), and BPL was only marginally able to give it what it needed, maybe. The demands of both print and online seemed to often run BPL thin.

As a larger point, this action by BPL seems to be indicative of what is happening nationwide and worldwide right now. I can't help but notice the conspicuous increase in "SALE" signs in retailer windows and big balloons at car lots on the Front Range of Colorado over the last month. I'm not on the inside of any company, but I have to wonder whether these actions are correlated with actual sale trends, whether it's pre-emptive, or something in between. I think a lot more people might be forced to adopt the lightweight/simple lifestyle soon if things do not miraculously get better.

Edited by askurka on 10/24/2008 13:23:39 MDT.

Joe Clement
(skinewmexico) - MLife

Locale: Southwest
mag on 10/24/2008 13:20:56 MDT Print View

I read it online, so I'm not affected. It's a business decision, do what you gotta do. Best of luck.

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Re: Think this through please on 10/24/2008 13:26:25 MDT Print View

@Talusman: We will be issuing refunds for unfulfilled subscriptions, which is the fairest mechanism for us to honor our subscribers in the context of an economic recession that has had a dramatic and immediate impact on the print magazine industry. We won't be the only small magazines ending their print runs before the economy takes its toll a little deeper, and the chance that subscribers will see any refund of their subscription price from those magazines will be extremely slim. Alpinist is a case in point right now: the entire company shut its doors.

Jonathan Ryan
(Jkrew81) - F - M

Locale: White Mtns
Re: mag on 10/24/2008 13:26:29 MDT Print View

Not a bad way to go if it gives me more content to cruise on the site....

Darren Christie
(whitespider1066) - F
Sad to see it come to an end on 10/24/2008 13:32:06 MDT Print View

Well I will be sad to see the magazine end, and will order the final issue once it is out in the US. Would of liked to of had that as well being an international subscriber but as I said I will order a copy anyway when available.
I think the original two that complained about not getting copies should of contacted the BPL support people. Who when I have not received a copy have always responded within 24 hours, and either given an explanation why I have not had it (ie it has not been sent due to printers missing it), or sent a new copy no quibbles.
I think the offer to compensate folks is more than generous. And I will be taking them up on it.
I do hope that this puts BPL.com in a strong position to weather out the current economic downturn.

David Dixon
(Talusman)
I've read the policy and still have questions. on 10/24/2008 13:36:33 MDT Print View

1). Doesn't your press release indicate that you will continue to produce the magazine in electronic form?
2). So, aren't we rally talking about printing and mailing costs.
3. Couldn't you say thet one year from today you will not take new one-year subscriptions to the print magazine and then print the next years issues in order to keep your promise?
4. What will the cost of subscription be when it is time for me to renew in March?
5). Will the electronic magazine subscription be seperate from the BPL membership cost?

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Magazine no more. on 10/24/2008 13:47:06 MDT Print View

To Darren Christie.
Being one of the 'two' that you mention, i would like to respond. I have read on here that the magazine was 'laid back' in its delivery. Being 'laid back' myself, i didn't worry. I just figured that 2 or 3 issues would arrive at once.
Don't judge me when you don't know me!
I hope the online mag and website go from strength to strength.:)

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
Re: I've read the policy and still have questions. on 10/24/2008 13:47:15 MDT Print View

David, I believe you misinterpreted the press release. Backpacking Light will no longer be offering a magazine in either a print format nor a digital format.

However, contributors and staff will continue to offer up quality editorial content for display on our Web site as part of our subscription-based membership. At this time there will be no change in the cost of an online subscription.

All free areas of the Web site will remain intact, the online store will continue to operate just as before as well.

Edited by sharalds on 10/24/2008 13:48:57 MDT.

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Re: Re: I've read the policy and still have questions. on 10/24/2008 13:50:26 MDT Print View

A followup. Let's define terminology.

PRINT magazine - Backpacking Light Magazine, 96-page quarterly magazine delivered as hardcopy to "Print" subscribers and for single copy sales at newsstands.

DIGITAL magazine - the Zinio.com digital edition of the PRINT magazine. Delivered to all print subscribers as part of their subscription.

ONLINE membership - the annual subscription to the BackpackingLight.com website that includes access to members only content (M) and discounts on gear shop purchases.

Note that the content published in the PRINT/DIGITAL quarterly is not the same content that is published ONLINE.

With the discontinuation of the PRINT/DIGITAL magazine, we will redirect content publication to ONLINE.

What is being discontinued = PRINT/DIGITAL.

What will not change - ONLINE.

Do you see the confusion here? I hope so. It's not a product delivery strategy that reflects the light and simple nature of a company that advocates light and simple!

Edited by ryan on 10/24/2008 13:52:30 MDT.

A. B.
(tomswifty)
Re: I've read the policy and still have questions. on 10/24/2008 13:52:09 MDT Print View

I gathered that the magazine will cease to exist and they will focus on more online content.

Also, you can't force someone to produce something and it is hard to argue damages for lack of a magazine. A refund should be sufficient in this case. Or are you implying that the cancellation of the magazine has damages greater than the cost of the subscription?

David Dixon
(Talusman)
Could you also define on 10/24/2008 13:57:04 MDT Print View

What exactly is included in the term "quality editorial content"

nanook ofthenorth
(nanookofthenorth) - MLife
... on 10/24/2008 13:58:08 MDT Print View

I for one am thrilled that the print magazine is coming to an end. Since its inception I've noticed a decrease in the quality content that I joined BPL for.
The magazine never really attracted me, as a lightweight paddler and climber - although it did have some wonderful content from time to time. However I felt that prior to the magazine's establishment had been provided by the website I look forward the return of that content to the website.

While the e-copies of magazine were nice they were never anything that really got me excited. I also disliked the reduction of content online and the lack of any online price reduction at the time.
Unfortunately I am only willing to subscribe to one backpacking production a year and BPL.com with its tech based content and expedition coverage has fit that need.
The print magazine for me always seemed like brand dilution

A return to BPL's core business - its web presence, for me will be a welcome change.

Diplomatic Mike
(MikefaeDundee)

Locale: Under a bush in Scotland
Magazine no more. on 10/24/2008 14:27:19 MDT Print View

I've just received an e-mail with more info re not receiving print mag. Thanks Karen. :)
The website is the main thing.

Jesse Glover
(hellbillylarry) - F

Locale: southern appalachians
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development" on 10/24/2008 14:32:05 MDT Print View

As long as I recive issue 10 and 11 eventually I will be ok. I do think it sucks but what are you going to do you know. I will be more likely to renew my online subscription now as I was waiting to get my last 2 print issues to do so.

George Phoenix
(perrito)

Locale: Joisey
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production on 10/24/2008 14:40:24 MDT Print View

Hmmm.... I am a new subscriber. I paid the $25 for a year's magazine subscription (4 issues). I considered joining as a premium member at that time (wasn't there a special price for the combination?) but I am new to backpacking and wasn't sure I wanted it at the time.

Since my subscription only started with issue 11, how is a $15 coupon a fair offer? The $15 is not 3/4 of the $$$ I put out.

I was actually thinking of becoming a premium member now that I am getting into it. Now, if I was able to flip that $15 coupon into a premium membership, that would be cool.

Don Wilson
(don) - MLife

Locale: Koyukuk River, Alaska
Re: Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production on 10/24/2008 14:57:48 MDT Print View

George -

You do have the option of requesting a check which will exactly match the 3/4 remaining value of your subscription. In your case, that would be $18.75.

Don

George Phoenix
(perrito)

Locale: Joisey
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production on 10/24/2008 15:11:42 MDT Print View

Thanks Don. I may do that. I'd prefer to roll it over into a premium membership though. The $18.75 is worth 9 months right? That would be fair. No mailing, no running to the bank to cash it, etc.

Actually, rereading the e-mail, the statement,

"All subscribers have been issued a store coupon in the amount of $14.99 (original subscription cost) to be used on a future order."

is wrong. My original subscription cost was $25.

Mark Larson
(mlarson) - MLife

Locale: Southeast USA
Good decision on 10/24/2008 16:14:39 MDT Print View

There's certainly no shame in paring down. I'm glad that BPL will be able to refocus and divert more resources to the website, gear, and book arms of the company. Looking forward to what's next.

Michael Davis
(mad777) - F

Locale: South Florida
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production on 10/24/2008 16:48:44 MDT Print View

Personally, I think it's a good decision to stop the print magazine if it was detracting from the web content. It's the web content that I value highly, the print mag was simply icing on the cake.

Hopefully, we will see more articles online from the simple but informative one about the relative strength of tent stakes to the more complex articles like that very comprehensive winter footwear one.

I for one, appreciate the fairness in the coupon/refund policy.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Ok...but and a big but on 10/24/2008 17:57:33 MDT Print View

Sure the coupon is nice and all.

Till you go to use it and find out it only works on merchandise, not the shipping and handling. Blah! The cheapest shipping option is $6.80 when I went to see about using the coupon.

So in essence I get to pay to use a refund.

Yeah, personally? I will just eat the $15.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Michael on 10/24/2008 18:04:38 MDT Print View

I agree with what Michael just said. A little sad perhaps, but the magazine was a disaster from issue 1. Still love the website. I certainly spend enough time here. Glad I did not renew last week :-)

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 18:18:54 MDT Print View

As Don mentioned earlier in this thread you are able to apply for cash refund in the form of a check rather than having to use the coupon.

Edited by sharalds on 10/24/2008 18:19:42 MDT.

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: .
Re: Ok...but and a big but on 10/24/2008 18:19:38 MDT Print View

I don't get it. Why does it matter if the coupon discounts $15 off an item or $8 off an item and $7 for the shipping? You pay the same amount either way. If you're wanting to buy a $5 item and then have it also cover shipping, why not just wait to use the coupon till you want something that costs over $15?

Edited by simplespirit on 10/24/2008 18:20:11 MDT.

Jolly Green Giant
(regultr) - MLife

Locale: www.jolly-green-giant.blogspot.com
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 18:28:51 MDT Print View

Not that I get the right to vote or that my vote would matter in this case, but I'm really disappointed to lose the magazine. I really enjoyed it, and in fact, actually merely scanned the online version because I wanted to save the colors and in-depth stories only truly available in the print version for a place other then when I was hiding behind a keyboard.

The flexibility of having something so small and well done which could be taken with me was of great value and I always enjoyed having the option to read it again and again no matter where I was. I'm just not sure I'm interested in reading the magazine online as the loss of brilliant colors, tactile feel, and the general nostalgia of something I could hold in my hands was of more value to me. I appreciate the fact that it allows all of us to have a smaller footprint, but I find it a little hypocritical to say that BPL supports getting out, getting back to basics, and embracing life the way it was in the past when things were more simple. Forcing me to spend more time behind my keyboard is against every one of these values and it is a shame. I think BPL underestimates the fact that the magazines weren’t merely tossed into a landfill after going through it once as I know of no one who doesn’t consider them valuable enough to keep on a shelf for constant reference and review. Each is a story of history, triumph, education, and passion. It’s a shame BPL puts their magazine in the same category as other periodicals on the market because it wasn’t. I also have a tough time swallowing that the costs of the magazine were simply too much to bear because as anyone who purchased nearly anything from the UL movement will attest to – this stuff ain’t cheap. Apparently there are more than a few people who are willing to pay top dollar for things that fuel their passions and overpriced bivys, tarps, bags, packs – and magazines were no exception.

Tom Clark
(TomClark) - MLife

Locale: East Coast
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 19:00:38 MDT Print View

Ryan & BPL staff,
I have enjoyed the online and print/digital magazine. I have been frustrated with the delays and downloading at times, but really appreciated having a copy to read on business trips. I think some of the members that have expressed negative opinions here should consider that BPL have put themselves out there on a risky venture that we all enjoyed when it clicked. BPL's exposure is much greater than the $15-25 that each of us have invested in it.

So don't get too worked up that it didn't work perfectly, and appreciate that BPL is dealing with it in a reasonable manner. Hey, we're family here so that means we can complain about each other, but let's keep it in perspective.

I'm glad that we still have BPL. It's the only website that I check almost every day, and have learned quite a bit from it.

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Tom

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Ok...but and a big but on 10/24/2008 19:30:19 MDT Print View

Chris, I am a well known tightwad. And to be blunt, I don't need more gear - I have too much as is.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 19:40:10 MDT Print View

I actually like this. Nice.

s k
(skots) - F
Re: Re: Re: I've read the policy and still have questions. on 10/24/2008 19:46:59 MDT Print View

Ryan,

>Do you see the confusion here? I hope so.

So after all the words in all the threads in all the years, this one had me in tearful relief!

There was certainly no lack of effort, and it appears that even in history, there may be problems parsing the nomenclature.

The crux of this communication issue is that the words PRINT, DIGITAL, and ONLINE, compose the anagrammed phrase "NILLING TREPIDATION". This translates into a fearful reluctance and a lack of understanding in anyone who sees the words PRINT, DIGITAL, and ONLINE. This is the only possible explanation.

Karl Keating
(KarlKeating) - MLife
Alas, it's a common story on 10/24/2008 19:56:55 MDT Print View

As the publisher of a small-circulation magazine that has been around since 1990, I well appreciate what it takes to produce a handsome, well-written publication aimed at a niche market. Most small magazines fail early because they never achieve a sustainable number of subscribers. Most that survive just barely hang on.

(Small magazines rely chiefly--often exclusively--on subscription income, not ads, because their readership, being so small, is unable to attract advertisers. Mass-market magazines, on the other hand, get nearly all of their income from ads. Some of them, in fact, are mailed at no cost to subscribers because the ad revenue covers everything. This is precisely how I'm getting "Backpacker.")

Ryan doesn't say how many paid subscribers his magazine ended up with, but I suspect it was far fewer than the original business plan had projected. Had there been triple the paid subscriptions, perhaps the magazine would have continued.

For my part, I'm saving all the copies, because they're worth saving. The staff did a good job and needs to make no apologies for the content or quality of the publication.

Doug Johnson
(djohnson) - MLife

Locale: Washington State
Re: Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/24/2008 22:08:06 MDT Print View

I've enjoyed Backpacking Light far more and for much longer than the 6+ years I've contributed to it. While I completely understand the decision to discontinue the magazine, I'm also saddened by the loss. I have the full library and have read every word in these mags. I'll keep the collection indefinitely and it's likely they'll be on a shelf when I'm in a convalescent home. It was an honor to have an article in one magazine and an image in another and I thank Ryan and Co. greatly for that opportunity.

I also feel that our online magazine will benefit from this refocusing. I look forward to more in-depth content on the site, despite the fact that I'll miss the portable journal.

My bottom line, though, is that I love Backpacking Light. If ditching the print magazine is what's required to keep this community and publication sustainable, I stand firmly behind that decision. The last thing any of us (readers and contributors alike) is to see BPL go the way of Alpinist.

Best,
Doug Johnson

Stephen Morse
(scmorse1) - MLife

Locale: Bay area
"NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development" on 10/24/2008 22:23:59 MDT Print View

It's all about the content. I will look forward to browsing the website.

Monty Montana
(TarasBulba) - MLife

Locale: Rocky Mountains
We Live In Interesting Times on 10/24/2008 22:29:23 MDT Print View

I'm one of those who regrets the passing of the BPL print mag as it was well executed and certainly something to keep on my bookshelf as important reference material. Having it appear online was not a bonus for me...I like books. The writing was on the wall last month I guess when I read that Ascent folded. It was a coffee table quality production that won many commendations for its photography. It was also headquarted in Jackson Hole, probably the most expensive piece of realestate in the country, so their overhead must have been phenomenal compared to, say, being headquartered in Rock Springs. When I was there once applying for a teaching position the local rent exceeded the teaching salary. I left. Rumor has it that Bozeman is becomiing the new Jackson Hole.

I don't consider the printing of a small, quality book (it's more of a book than a mag) that people will save as violating any enviromental ethic, especially when one considers a recent report that estimates the number of U.S. computers that end up in the landfill in a year would fill a hole large enough to contain four Empire State Buildings.

As for the cost of subscription and the irregularity of publication...well, it was still money well spent and I'm glad I have all the issues. Go into a Barnes and Nobles and see what $14.95 will get you. Not much; most books are a whole lot more than that these days.

I just noticed that BPL is printed in China. I once was caught in the pincers of a quandry such as this and switched to in-house publication and everyone was pleased with the results.

Accept, let go, move on. I await the last issue, #11!

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: "NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development" on 10/24/2008 22:52:24 MDT Print View

Though I never subscribed to the magazine it still is sad when people I have come to know must make decisions to end things that they've put their hearts and energy into.

I've been mulling over the whole decision and wondered if it would be possible, for those who want it, to set up the online content in such a way that it is nicely printable per customer via a service like Blurb. That way BPL accrues little or no costs and the subscribers can get their printed magazine if they want.

Just an idea.

Charles Reneau
(charley289) - F

Locale: Cascades and Oregon Coast Range
I'll miss the mag on 10/25/2008 00:38:56 MDT Print View

Well. . . I only ever got two of them (9 and 10), but I looked forward to getting them in the mail. I love the look and feel of the mag, and the reading is good, too.

Dear BPL,
Regarding the press release:
I'll never throw mine away!
Charley

Mike Snodderley
(Snodds) - F

Locale: Midwest
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/25/2008 03:55:04 MDT Print View

while this is certainly disappointing, I will look forward to the articles that would be in the print version going online. Will you guys publish a backlog of your previous articles to the website? I think that might be a good compromise for subscribers upset that their print subscription was canceled. Plus I know I would love to have easy access to some of those articles.

John Manning
(pctjohnbadger) - F - M

Locale: Stainforth
Oh dear... on 10/25/2008 05:28:57 MDT Print View

I'm sorry to see the mag go. The format, the content, even the 'feel' of the mag were all perfect.

Like Darren and Michael From Dundee, I'm an international subscriber and will miss not getting issue 11 - which I'll have to buy online.

I do appreciate the lengths you've gone to to satisfy subscribers - you've gone over and beyond what would be necessary - but will miss the mag dearly. Takes me several days to read the mag properly, compared to Backpacker, the worthwhile content of which takes me about an hour to read!

Edited by pctjohnbadger on 10/25/2008 05:40:08 MDT.

Ryan Klym
(breaks) - F

Locale: Flat Ohio
Too bad on 10/25/2008 06:02:30 MDT Print View

I have some sadness over the print edition ending. I am not a fan of digital editions (unless they're pdf's I can print), so I really couldn't care less about the zinio thing - used it once and never again.

I am a slave to my laptop all day long and find enjoyment in having a paper magazine that I can take to the coffee shop, sit in a corner and read. Or just sit on my patio and enjoy. When reading sacred text (BPL Mag), I'd rather not scroll, click, scroll, click, cuss.

So despite the roll of the dice on if/when my magazine would show up, I was always ecstatic to get it. It kept me company on many trips - business and pleasure.

As an ask, maybe BPL could put together a "cart" type functionality where we could easily go select the articles we wanted, then print them for on the go. That might be a great happy-medium for those of us that enjoy offline reading.

It sucks that all good things must come to an end. Whoever started that should be shot.

Paul Cronshaw
(beemancron) - F

Locale: Southwest US
What to do now for my backpacking trips? on 10/25/2008 17:37:34 MDT Print View

I just received my copy of Issue #11. I have been taking it on some of my day hikes to read when I relax at a nice viewpoint.

Sorry there won't be a print version #12 to make a dozen great publications. The print versions became part of my weekend UL pack system, small and LW. I am going to miss the feel and touch; online is just not the same. Since content is everything, the Internet can facilitate an easier publication.

However, I don't think I will be downloading the online version to my iPod to read on any backpacking trips. It runs against my philosophy of no electronics in the wilderness.

Charles Blake
(cblake) - F
This is very sad news. on 10/26/2008 11:21:58 MDT Print View

Ryan, all,

This is very sad news. I will miss the printed magazine very much. I liked the printed version not because I could put it in my pack, or curl up by the fire, but because my 50-something year old eyes have already been looking at a computer screen all day by the time it get home. (But I confess, I did pack a few along on Boy Scout outings and just sort of cast them out in the campsite. It was rewarding to see them devoured and discussed by the light of an LED headlamp.)

I have shared your troubles with the print version all along, and I MUST say that I have always found your staff to be very helpful throughout my complaints. No, I mean it. They kept me informed of the difficulties, and once even forwarded a print-ready PDF. So I give a sincere thanks to your crew for all of their struggles with the mag.

It was a refreshing read; the writing usually good and occasionally very good, it well done technically, with less gear mongering than the larger mainstream magazine on this topic. I loved articles like "the middle of nowhere" and the one on bear encounters. Honestly, there was nothing else like it.

I recognize this as a honest bushiness reversal. I wish you luck all in the future.

-chuck

Craig Burton
(MissingUtah)

Locale: Smoky Mountains
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/26/2008 12:19:38 MDT Print View

What if, in lieu of offering coupons or refunds, that the option be to give an equal number of back issues? I'm not sure if enough back issues are lying around to suit the demand; but I'm sure many people who will miss the magazine, yet jumped on the boat late, would happily take the inventory off your hands and relinquish that $3.75-15.00. Currently a single back issue is $8.95 for members (much more than I'm willing to pay), but I think it would be fair to hand some of those over at the prorated $3.75/copy to us who missed out on future, and back, copies of the publication.

Just food for thought, since probably most people are like me and have enough gear already, and also aren't very excited about a $3.75-15.00 refund. I suppose your print advertisers wouldn't mind their old advertisements in circulation, and on coffee tables across America, instead of being in some storage closet in Montana.

Edited by MissingUtah on 10/26/2008 12:37:54 MDT.

Bill Fornshell
(bfornshell) - MLife

Locale: Southern Texas
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/26/2008 13:53:46 MDT Print View

I am going to call on Monday and see if I can apply my "refund" toward my next years membership fee. It qualifies for free shipping.

Tom Clark
(TomClark) - MLife

Locale: East Coast
Re: Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/26/2008 17:55:28 MDT Print View

Craig,
Good idea! I didn't get #1, and do plan on keeping the issues on my bookshelf. I assume that there are lots of extra issues collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere, and it would be a share to waste them.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
EWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/27/2008 08:49:25 MDT Print View

Craig, given the massive quantity of people whom we take responsibility to satisfy we needed to come up with a single solution to credit them for the remainder of their subscriptions.

Roman Ackl
(roman) - MLife
Vouchers and Podcasts on 10/27/2008 09:46:23 MDT Print View

Hi Ryan

even so I liked the print magazine very much I fully understand if you decide to focus on your core competencies in order to be prepared whatever comes up in terms of an economic downturn.

Being an international subscriber to the magazine I (and it seems that I was not the only one) experienced major delays in getting the magazine delivered to my address or issues needed to be re-send to me.

One thing I would like to ask you so is to either:

a. extend the timeline we can use our vouchers to middle or end of next year and not to December 2008. I'm most likely not alone in my ordering habits that I do place an order once or twice at most a year in order to keep postage and customs under control. I would rather wait until spring next year when also some new gear has been released to place another order. Or

b. allow your customers the option to use the vouchers to pay a reduced rate for the online subscription as a premier member.

I'm looking forward seeing edition #11 in Zinio.


One additional thing I would like to mention is in the area of podcasts. Having no insights into BPL internals those seemed to me much of a "Carol Crooker" project and since her departure things haven't been taken on or moved forward. I see not frequent releases, I see content quality dropping (e.g. the latest one with Erin and Craig) and I see no real concept behind them in terms of what you want to cover/achieve with them.
This is of course my subjective view but I would suggest that you/your team decide upon what you can do with those resources which have been freed up by the discontinuation of the print magazine and if it wouldn't be worthwhile re-designed this activity or to decide moving away from the area of podcasts in general.

All the best
Roman

Jason Brinkman
(jbrinkmanboi) - MLife

Locale: Idaho
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine on 10/27/2008 23:08:36 MDT Print View

My $0.02:

I have been getting the print magazine for the last year. I too have always considered it to be a small book - one of the exact size and shape of popular guide books like the Falcon Guides, which makes it very attractive in my library. I will miss it.

None the less, I applaud Ryan on a sound business decision, for having the courage to explain his decision, and for offering a reasonable policy to make subscribers whole. I would hate to lose everything else here just trying to keep a paper publication afloat.

So how about making some of those back issues available for a package price? I would be happy to use my coupon to expand my library - provided I can bundle the shipping to keep with your mission of minimizing the BPL footprint.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 10/28/2008 09:14:27 MDT Print View

Jason - You can bundle all the single issues into one order by purchasing one of each. The price of shipping for one issue is about $7 and the cost of shipping for all the back issues together is only about $10 (when estimated using my zip code).

Erik Graf
(VanGo) - F

Locale: Southeast
Ugh! on 10/28/2008 09:32:50 MDT Print View

VERY disappointed. But, it's your show. Glad I at least got it for a while. I gave up my subscriptions to Backpacker and NG Adventure b/c this "magazine" was the only thing exclusively suited for what I wanted to read about without all the extra junk. I hate that it has come to this....

Brian Doble
(brian79) - MLife

Locale: New England
This site can get better?? on 10/29/2008 07:31:11 MDT Print View

I've always considered my online subscription the best gift I've ever received; what a discovery, finding such a professional, in-depth resource for such a small niche. (It really is a small niche: I just spent 6 months on the crowded AT and only met 2 people who commented that they recognized the BPL logo on my hat.) I'm grateful that the site itself remains, and surprised at all the negative & whiny comments I see. Hooray for BPL Online!

Charles Leonard
(cleonard) - MLife

Locale: London
Disappointed on 10/29/2008 08:02:35 MDT Print View

Although I can understand the reasoning, I'm disappointed with the news and as an international subscriber even more disappointed not to receive issue 11 in print form (I'm not a huge fan of Zinio). I'm not sure I fully understand not sending issue 11 as it would surely have completed some subscriptions (leaving BPL free of the commitment to honour the voucher for those subscribers), but I guess you have your reasons.

I think Roman's suggestions of a longer period of validity of the voucher and being able to use it for premium membership make sense and hope you'll consider them.

D LARSON
(epilektric) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
No problems here on 10/29/2008 09:12:57 MDT Print View

When I signed up I contemplated getting the print magazine and decided to just get the online version to save paper. As part of my minimalist philosophy I believe I can reduce many of my physical possessions to digital bits and bytes. That being said, I really didn't care much for flipping through the online magazine. Go figure.

The gist of my time is spent right here on the website. The lack of a print/online magazine will certainly afford BPL the resources it needs to make the website even better. I am looking forward to what will come.

Wade Johnston
(johnstonwh) - F

Locale: Midwest
Ryan - The backpack on 10/29/2008 16:03:49 MDT Print View

Ryan, what brand of backpack does your son have in that photo. My son is also 10 but a little bigger. Having a hard time finding a pack to fit him.

John Gale
(jgale)
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 11/03/2008 17:51:20 MST Print View

Sorry to hear that the print magazine will be discontinued but the decision makes sense in this economic climate. I do have a question, may I use the credit to renew my online membership for the coming year? Thanks.

Jim Sweeney
(swimjay) - MLife

Locale: Northern California
Magazine suspended, but we're still here on 11/03/2008 18:48:23 MST Print View

I'm sorry for the people who put so much work into the magazine, but frankly I've never liked it nearly as much as I like the website, though I did enjoy the issue about bears.

As the world shifts toward digital media, the rigidity of fixed media makes it relatively less and less useful. There is simply no way to fold in the contributions of readers and viewers to a printed magazine, whereas on the BPL site, we have only to open a forum topic to have access to the manifold contributions of interested, intelligent, practiced people who share our passion but whose experience is usefully and completely different from our own--and all this within a day of opening a topic. Or we can do a search on BPL, or increasingly one on Google, and turn up multiple references to previous threads with all sorts of tangentially connected information pertinent to our search.

So I won't miss the print version, and find that the web site grows richer all the time.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 11/04/2008 09:41:14 MST Print View

>and find that the web site grows richer all the time.

James, that richness of which you speak is exactly the goal we have in mind at BPL. Striving to keep not only our editorial content top-notch but to also tap and share the experiences of this community with itself through an ever-changing and growing medium, aka this Web site.

Noel Hong
(arborrider08) - F

Locale: SouthShore of Lake Superior
As a new subscriber... on 11/06/2008 13:25:35 MST Print View

Just subscribed to bpl today with my 2nd order from the Shop. The savings on the quilt and vest were too good to pass up. Only a few dollars more than a DIY. Didn't realize the subscription at one time included a print copy. Happy just to get access to the complete online magazine and looking forward to the future editions.

Martijn Landzaat
(mlandzaat) - F
No more magazine on 11/07/2008 12:50:48 MST Print View

Hello,

Just read that the magazine stops excisting.
From what I read in the comment there has been an e-mail sent to all subscrivers, but being one I never got any word about this in any of my mailboxes.

best regards,

Martijn

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 11/09/2008 20:56:56 MST Print View

Out of curiousity, what are the odds that previous magazine articles would be published for members on the website? There are some great articles.

Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 11/10/2008 14:57:50 MST Print View

David,

We will certainly start the progress of migrating print content online here. You guys deserve to have all of that stuff in this database, and it's been too long.

Ryan

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 11/10/2008 16:46:00 MST Print View

Thanks Ryan, that is fantastic news!

William Young
(william0770) - F
WHO CARES???? on 11/11/2008 19:08:02 MST Print View

I only ever received (2) copies of the print version in a years time --- what good was it if you never got it -- talk about a waste of paper -- you should fire whoever was incharge of the print version anyways

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: WHO CARES???? on 11/11/2008 19:17:43 MST Print View

wow William, you're mister happy aren't you!

John Tunnicliffe
(BenWaller)

Locale: Northern California
End of the Mag on 11/24/2008 23:24:30 MST Print View

More and better web content should deliver more and better Podcasts, right? This is what I am looking for, if you're interested. I care nothing for articles treating of the State of UberTents or whatever. Just to be clear.

Rationalizations don't mean much to me either; they are dime a dozen, available everywhere. Enviro footprint? Gimme a break. Electronics burn more juice and create more pollution (think that all the way the way through, including the waste/disposal streams associated with board/component construction) than does the manufacture and distribution of a few thousand copies (if that many) of an itty-bitty magazine. Cite your personal and business reasons for discontinuing the mag, they are many and they are reasonable, but pretention to save the planet by killing the print mag is just too ridiculous. Spare us at least this line of total BS.

By the way, the last issue was the best. Nice job.

Good luck.

Edited by BenWaller on 12/21/2008 06:26:47 MST.

Jim Sweeney
(swimjay) - MLife

Locale: Northern California
Strengths and Weaknesses (We've All Got 'Em) on 11/26/2008 08:43:08 MST Print View

The last issue well illustrated the (see header) of the print format. NOLS ? Can't get too excited about that. But the articles on Utah's Canyons (about which I know nothing) and Hawaii (about which I know a lot, having grown up on both the Islands visited) were full of gorgeous photos. The text left me wanting more--info, feel, personalities, etc. In contrast, I almost felt while reading the article on Finnish ski touring as if I were trapped in some snowy white vastness myself, where every hillock looked the same as the last, and the horizon never came.

On screen, the photos might have been a little harder to appreciate (not less beautiful, maybe even more, but not quite as easy to organize in ones mind), but inadequacies in the text could have been filled in and corrected by the comments of this huge wiki that is the BPL site.

So I hope BPL will in future commission articles exactly like these, to post to the website.

Jolly Green Giant
(regultr) - MLife

Locale: www.jolly-green-giant.blogspot.com
BPL Issue 11 on 11/30/2008 09:02:37 MST Print View

Yesterday I received BPL Issue 11. As expected, it was great and the best one yet. Also as expected, the Xobni version didn’t do it justice and was entirely too much of an aggravation to read through. It is a deep disappointment to me to see this magazine disappear for what seems to be because of organizational, development, and delivery problems. I would rather pay more and wait longer then have it permanently removed as one of BPL’s excellent educational tools. On a whole other level, it really bothers me that environmental concerns was raised as one of the reasons for the demise of the magazine. I’m sitting here in front of my computer, a place I despise, and instead of giving me a tool that I can take with me when I’m exploring, I’m left spending more time in front of my computer, avoiding the wild, and will likely no doubt burn more electricity and paper as I research and print the magazine. It seems this action actually hurts the environment more and holds the explorer in each of us a little closer to technology…the very thing many of us want to get away from. These magazines don’t end up in a landfill like most junk publications. Because they are so informative and so well done, most folks I know put them on a shelf for reference down the line. Saving written documents is often only left for legal paperwork or things worth keeping. Being that the magazine was worth keeping, something which is high praise, I hope BPL reconsiders bringing the magazine back after a short time away to reorganize their thoughts, development, and delivery needs.

Steve Martell
(Steve) - MLife

Locale: Eastern Washington
Re: BPL Issue 11 on 11/30/2008 10:20:47 MST Print View

Well put JK--I too detest too much time in front of a screen. A paper copy gives many more options, not to mention free advertising for BPL when it's left out and about (waiting room, coffee table, etc.).

Nicholas Miller
(nmiller08) - F

Locale: Montana
Peter Vacco on 12/08/2008 14:08:54 MST Print View

Somewhat off topic, but this article mentions that Peter Vacco was the first person to hike the great divide end to end. I've seen this credited previously to Dan Cooper (who recently got some press coverage for his endorsement of Obama despite the fact he founded and owns (owned) Cooper Firearms of Montana). He's well known locally and I think hiked the great divide in the early 80s, perhaps over the course of a couple years. I don't know the details and haven't been able to find much information on the "full" trail online, such as complete hikes, times, etc. Also, I don't own issue #1. Is Cooper's claim bunk? uninformed? Just curious.

Edited by nmiller08 on 12/08/2008 14:10:13 MST.

Ali e
(barefootnavigator) - F

Locale: Outside
10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production :( on 12/25/2008 12:53:31 MST Print View

Ryan and staff and friends, while I am incredibly sad to see it go I understand completely. I have helped launch and run several magazines in my life the the amount of work is unbelievable. We used to sort 10,000 copies right in our living-room what a PIA. You are going in a good direction that all will surely follow. As we prepare to leave on a round the world trip we will unfortunately miss lots of what you have to offer but I hear there are Internet cafes in some of the most remote parts of the world. In regards to the printed mag, you cant fit a ten pound parcel into a two pond sack. Tnaks again to all you guys for a great site. Ali

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
BPL to Suspend Print Magazine on 12/25/2008 13:21:03 MST Print View

Can't believe that I paid for three subscriptions yet did not receive the last issue because my subscription expired in October. 3 times 4 is still 12, but my issues end at 10 . Not fair.

Paul Corcoran
(WalksInDark) - F
Re: Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 12/29/2008 09:13:10 MST Print View

Is there any way to enlarge the text on the digital magazine? I have great difficulty reading the text as it is.

P.S. More than 30% of the U.S. population are now 40+ years old, so this issue really needs to be addressed.

Thanks!

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: NEWS 10/24/08: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine Production, Will Refocus Energy to Online Content Development on 12/29/2008 09:25:54 MST Print View

Paul -

The + sign in the menu bar works pretty well.

Edited by greg23 on 12/29/2008 11:16:42 MST.

Joe Westing
(pedro87) - F
Re: BPL to Suspend Print Magazine on 12/29/2008 10:38:46 MST Print View

Ken-

You should contact BPL customer service. I had a similar problem and they gave me the correct number of issues that I paid for. Because of the print mags many missed deadlines, the dates are pretty much meaningless.

Dustin F
(dirtt) - F

Locale: So. California
BPL print magazine refund on 03/06/2009 00:47:39 MST Print View

Maybe I missed it in this thread, I forgot what the email had said. When do we receive our checks or store coupon as reimbursment?

Devin Montgomery
(dsmontgomery) - MLife

Locale: one snowball away from big trouble
Re: BPL print magazine refund on 03/06/2009 06:06:13 MST Print View

Hi Dustin,

You should have received an email with a special promo code for the discount. I think they must check to make sure you had a print subscription, and then mark you off the list once you use it.