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Essentials not seen on 08/26/2005 07:55:03 MDT Print View

I see no mention of map or knife. Maybe the paper cutter is replacing the knife.

Richard Matthews
(food) - F

Locale: Colorado Rockies
Re: Tarps in Grand Canyon on 08/26/2005 08:16:00 MDT Print View

29 nights below the rim with no tent in May and October. Mostly used just a poncho for shelter, but this last May I used a 8'X10' tarp because rain was forcast. In the corridor sites a tent is nice for privacy.

Tim Garner
(slowhike) - F

Locale: South East U.S.
deep cleaning on 10/05/2005 19:29:35 MDT Print View

carol... i noticed your comment about not being able to reach the bottom of the pot for cleaning. i made a "scrub sock" by cutting a thin scrub pad & folding it over & sewing it just big enough to slide tightly over the working end of my BPL long handled ti-spoon. it`s only big enough to cover the part of the spoon that holds food. it hardly moves my little postal scale. ...slowhike

August Hahn
(august) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
ultralight hammocks on 11/28/2005 00:17:34 MST Print View

fantastic articals really got me inspired to try sometimes.of all the articals i,v read about hammocks not once is there any mention of a recently new hammock by byers of maine called the moskitoe hammock it,s a new model identical to the 11oz travel hammock thats been around for years but with a netting top i,v tested it out here in sacramento along the american river and find it every bit as durable as any other hammock and 1/3 the price hope to see some testing done on this model soon to see what others think.

August Hahn
(august) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
ul hammocks on 11/28/2005 00:29:05 MST Print View

yes august again addeum to recent comments i,v had a hennesy ultalite the old kind not asy,at 22oz it has been in it,s fair share of storms one here on the american river in sacramento where wind speeds were clcked at 65mph!and for the most part i stayed pretty dry just some small damp places along the head and foot where the fly comes to a point.i,m ready to retire it and am undecided between the adventure racer or the byers of maine mikitoe hammock whice is 1/3 the price and seems just as durable also has the added advantage of flipping over and useing it without the netting.anybody have any test results or exsperence with this model sorry to be so winded

john Tier
(Peter_pan) - M

Locale: Co-Owner Jacks 'R' Better, LLC, VA
Re: ul hammocks on 11/28/2005 06:18:05 MST Print View

August,

Couple years back we put a no-seem net on the Traveller same as the moskito... light and comfortable...Two distractors...One is the ridge line is external and the are no peak ends to slide gear to in the hammock, also the nettng droops, not quite as spaceous as the hennessy, but works well....Two is the end cords.. They are light, watch close for wear... They tend to tangle... best fix is attach the rope with a small biner so they are easy to disconnect and untangle or alternately add as 2 foot cone like sock to the end to slide over the cords and prevent tangles in the first place... nice hammock...retired in favor of the HH extreme light racer...longer and more comfortable than the Adventure racer and about 15 oz with rope and tree savers but without the stock fly...Substitute a JRB 8x8 Tarp at 9.2 oz and you have more coverage and a complete hammock rig that is 8 oz lighter than a stock BUL Asym...Have about 40 nights with no sign of wear in this rig...FWIW, I weigh 180 and am 5-11.

Douglas Frick
(Otter) - MLife

Locale: Wyoming
Re: ul hammocks on 11/28/2005 21:59:49 MST Print View

>i,m ready to retire it and am undecided between the adventure racer or the byers of maine mikitoe hammock


For me, the crucial difference between a Hennessy Hammock and others is the 'ASym' part. If I slept in a regular hammock my back would be a mess the next day--I'd rather sleep on the ground. So if you are considering switching from an asymmetric hammock to a regular slung hammock, you might want to take some material and make up a simple quick hammock and see if it works for you, or buy the hammock somewhere you can easily return it.

john Tier
(Peter_pan) - M

Locale: Co-Owner Jacks 'R' Better, LLC, VA
Re: Re: ul hammocks on 11/29/2005 07:14:24 MST Print View

Doug,

You sleep in a Byer on the diagonal, same as the HH... it just does not say "asym"...

While we are at it, realize that the HH is a rectangular bottom with asym tie out points...Only the no seeum netting and standard fly are cut as parallel-a-grams or "asym" pieces.

Generally , all hammocks that are nominally 60 inches wide and of sufficient length for ones height will enable diagonal sleeping, a la, Myan Indian style...often called "Asym"... This as opposed to more traditional narrower hammocks, such as the military jungle hammock, M1965 model, or its many comercial knock-offs.

Edited by Peter_pan on 11/29/2005 07:15:47 MST.

Tony Burnett
(tlbj6142) - F

Locale: OH--IO
ul hammocks on 11/29/2005 07:57:11 MST Print View

Also, be aware that the "on the diagonal" isn't all that dramatic. Your feet are on one side of the center line, while you head is on the other. The offset is maybe a foot.

I know the first few times I was in my HH ULA, I kept trying to put my feet way out at the foot-end pullout and my head near head-end pullout. Which doesn't work all that well, unless your 4' tall.

Vick Hines
(vickrhines) - F

Locale: Central Texas
Re: ul hammocks on 12/04/2005 18:10:08 MST Print View

>Any hammock that is wide enough can be used diagonally for sleeping flat, Central American style provided it isn't made with tricky lacing to keep the sides high. Tie-outs on the Hennessey serve to keep the mosquito net tensioned somewhat. The light bungee cord coesn't affect the hammock's shape when you get sideways.

> A good mosquito net arrangement that doesn't require velcro or zippers along the hems is to use a low hanging net with elastic: Make 2 hammock-length panels 2 feet high on the ends and 3.5 to 4 feet at the center, curving or arcing from center to ends. Stitch the panels together on the ridge line and add a lightweight fabric casing along the ridgeline. Stitch 3/4 inch velcro strips to close the 2-foot vertical sections at each end of the panels (so the panels stick together at the ends). Stitch a lightweight fabric casing on the bottom edge of each panel and install 1/4 inch elastic with friction tensioners at one end and the other end bartacked in place. Install a 3/16 inch bungee cord (drawstring size) in the top casing. Tension the bungee some and tie a loop in each end. Don't cut off the excess; you may need to adjust it. Alternatively, put a friction tensioner behind the loop to take up the slack. A simple, ultralight friction tensioner is just an oval cut from a plastic jug with 4 holes punched in it. Thread the cord through all 4 holes and pull the excess from the center, between the 2nd and 3rd hole.

Make 2 loops of cord, attach a plastic mitten hook to each loop, and tie the loops to your hammock lines with prussic knots.

Hook the ridgeline bungee to the mitten hooks, separate the velcro at the ends, drape the net over the hammock, close the velcro over the end of th ehammock or the hammock line, tighten the elastic in the bottom casings until it seals when you are in the hammock, but still lets you get in and out.

>Hammocks are very easy to make. Just hem a 10X5 rectangle of the lightest fabric you have the nerve to try. (I weigh 210 and use 1.1 oz. ripstip Nylon 66. For Nylon 6 I have used 1.9 oz.) Accordian-fold the ends and attach the lines with a double sheet bend. That is like a regular sheet bend, but you take the 'bitter end' around an extra turn. Or use Speer's knot and loop technique. Regardless, test it low, preferably with some padding underneith. I have been 'let down' a time or two when I didn't set the knots firmly before climbing aboard.

Edited by vickrhines on 12/04/2005 18:18:22 MST.

Jeff Jackson
(Just_Jeff) - F

Locale: Colorado's Front Range
Re: ul hammocks on 12/04/2005 20:34:50 MST Print View

Vick, do you have pics of this project?

Other hammock bugnet ideas at http://www.tothewoods.net/HammockCampingBugfree.html

I find my Speer-type hammocks more comfortable than my Hennessy UL BP Asym - I still sleep diagonally (almost flat) even though it's not "asym" as was mentioned earlier.

Vick Hines
(vickrhines) - F

Locale: Central Texas
Re: Re: ul hammocks on 12/05/2005 08:58:10 MST Print View

Sorry, I don't have a detail pic of the net rig. Just this with a Tyvek poncho as the fly and the snake skin bunched at the end:

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Yeah, I have used a Hennessy a good bit, and find my homemade ones more comfortable. For one thing, the fabric I use is 65" wide, and the extra 5 inches makes a difference. For another, I use softer, stretchier 1.1 oz fabric.

Edited by vickrhines on 12/09/2005 07:09:57 MST.

Jeff Jackson
(Just_Jeff) - F

Locale: Colorado's Front Range
Vick Hines on 12/05/2005 10:15:18 MST Print View

Vick, could you please pm me at jwj32542 at yahoo dot com?

Thanks,

Jeff

August Hahn
(august) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
hammocks on 01/04/2006 20:27:48 MST Print View

i would like to thank every one who commented on my post about hammock choices very insightful as allways. two heads are better then one as the saying goes.