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christopher smead
(hamsterfish) - MLife

Locale: hamsterfish
Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 11:46:33 MDT Print View

I used to bring these energy bars called belly timber for breakfast. Over 300 calories, but about half the size of a candy bar.
Downside is they didn't taste that great, were hard to chew, and now discontinued.

With those and other carefully picked items I was able to cram 9 days of food into a bearikade weekender.

Anyone else know of a replacement? Just needs to be tiny and calorie dense. I can deal with bad flavor/consistency.

I've read about homemade alternatives like Logan bread....but I'm a horrible cook. I even mess up mountain house half the time.

Marc Shea
(FlytePacker) - F

Locale: Cascades
Re: Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 15:46:09 MDT Print View

Look up emergency rations. http://www.datrex.com/index/catalog/flag_acc/1/cd_catID/13

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 15:49:33 MDT Print View

"I used to bring these energy bars called belly timber for breakfast. Over 300 calories..."

Unless we also know the weight, to calculate calories per ounce, it will be hard to know if something is better or not.

After that is the question of carb/protein/fat ratio.




It's hard to hit a target if you can't see it.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 15:54:37 MDT Print View

It is possible to come up with a food item that is extremely calorie-dense. However, it might be indigestible.

I stick with items that I know will work in my system. I can go a long way on dilute Gatorade, Logan Bread, and Swiss Cheese.

--B.G.--

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 16:01:08 MDT Print View

Christopher, have you considered Probars? The Superfood Slam bar is 380 calories and weighs 85g

http://shop.theprobar.com/Superfood-Slam-Meal-Bar-sleeve-of-12-bars

Gary Dunckel
(Zia-Grill-Guy) - MLife

Locale: Boulder
Re: Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 16:07:49 MDT Print View

I agree, Greg. I checked out the above-mentioned Datrex line, and I couldn't find any nutritional info. But it's apparently just oil and carbs, and no protein at all. Some food that would be...OK for quick energy, but not for balanced nutrition.

I'll stick with Pro Bars, and maybe some dehydrated Spam for dinner. Tomorrow night I'll test the dehydrated Bush's beans and beef sausage I packaged up today--4 oz. yields a whopping 565 calories (141 cal/oz.), with those being 33% fat, 51% carbs, and 16% protein--not bad.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Datrex protein; alternatives on 08/08/2014 16:55:08 MDT Print View

If you eat one 2400 calorie/17 ounce Datrex package per day, you would get roughly 36 grams of protein, with 141 calories per ounce.

Datrex 2400 calorie package label

You could supplement with a high-protein food and a multivitamin.

But I wouldn't want to eat that diet!

You can always explore the dizzying variety of so-called food bars, most of which are processed beyond recognition.

On the less processed end of the scale, I like Bear Valley bars for breakfast when backpacking and sometimes at home. Better balanced, but only 106 calories per ounce.

And I eat Larabar Jocalat bars daily, roughly 119 calories per ounce. Be careful, since General Mills bought Larabar, they've been sneaking sugar into some flavors.

You could try making your own. Dozens of recipes online and in books. Then you control the ingredients, flavor, and nutrition. Some involve no more cooking than blending raw ingredients and shaping into bars. That's how Larabars got started.

-- Rex

Edited by Rex on 08/08/2014 16:57:01 MDT.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Tiny dense calorie brick on 08/08/2014 17:34:31 MDT Print View

My local market started carrying Core bars (http://www.corefoods.com). I decided to pick a couple up. Pretty tasty - they call it a bowl of oatmeal in a bar. There are a few 'regular' flavors, and a few protein-added flavors. I just ate the Warrior Meal (the protein added line), almond raisin, and it's the best bar I've ever had. Quite tasty. 85 grams, 310 calories, 12g fat, 20 mg sodium, 36g carb, 17g protein.

They only last a week unrefrigerated (or so says the package - as well as 1 month chilled and 9 months frozen).

christopher smead
(hamsterfish) - MLife

Locale: hamsterfish
Belly timber on 08/09/2014 01:55:59 MDT Print View

I think it was 2.4 oz for 300 calories....so not the best ratio...but I liked them because they were really small.
1 belly timber and 2 stinger waffles scored me a 650 calorie breakfast.

I've been reading about Logan bread for years here....so I'm finally giving up and begging my wife to help bake some using a recipe I found on BPL.

Will check out the other options like corebar too.

Roger Smith
(thewoodrow) - MLife
What about a DIY on 08/10/2014 12:36:47 MDT Print View

If someone has an old BT wrapper, maybe we can can make something close. Understanding that industrial kitchens have abilities gustatory tinkerers do not possess.

KEN LARSON
(KENLARSON) - MLife

Locale: Western Michigan
Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 13:40:04 MDT Print View

Take a look at these bars!!

Not just a "bar" to fill in the hungry cracks of the day, rather an entire meal that would supply about 1/3 of an individual's daily nutritional needs. It would be healthy, with all natural ingredients and no artificial preservatives.

GO HERE

GREENBELLY

Edited by KENLARSON on 08/11/2014 06:33:38 MDT.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Dense calorie brick-Greenbelly on 08/10/2014 13:55:40 MDT Print View

These certainly look interesting, but I'm not finding any nutrition information, or ingredient list, on their website. Where did you find your nutrition info?

Ralph Burgess
(ralphbge) - F
Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 13:58:38 MDT Print View

Ken - I think you need to check your arithmetic there
I think you may have missed serving size = 2 bars
640 kCal is for 160g
320 kCal per 80g (2.8oz) bar
113 kCal per oz, unremarkable

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 14:13:07 MDT Print View

GreenBellyBars

I see 2 bars per serving for 640 calories, or 320 calories per 2.8 oz bar, at~ $2/bar.

Similar in calories, weight, and cost to ProBar Meal bar.


[Edit: Damn! What a bunch of fact checkers!}

Edited by greg23 on 08/10/2014 14:16:36 MDT.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 14:40:25 MDT Print View

I'll stick with CoreMeal bars. Minimal ingredients. Great taste.

.core

.core2

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 14:57:05 MDT Print View

Man Doug, they sound good.

KEN LARSON
(KENLARSON) - MLife

Locale: Western Michigan
Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 14:59:06 MDT Print View

Doug...GO HERE

Ralph Burgess
(ralphbge) - F
Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 16:47:01 MDT Print View

[ fixed ]

Edited by ralphbge on 08/11/2014 07:33:30 MDT.

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/10/2014 22:42:09 MDT Print View

I'm not sure just how caloric they are, but they are up there.
They are also raw, so won't go bad on the trail.




.gf

Edited by awsorensen on 08/10/2014 22:43:19 MDT.

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: Dense calorie brick on 08/11/2014 06:38:34 MDT Print View

Aaron:

No cook? Just process, roll, and that's it?

Man I want some. How do you pack them for the trail?