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The Updated Foot-Care Kit
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Darin Banner
(dbanner) - MLife

Locale: Pacific North West
Readers' Comments on 07/23/2014 23:08:59 MDT Print View

I'm enjoying reading your comments. I wrap my Leukotape around the pen I take with me on my trips, but it's so sticky that it's a struggle to get off. I like the idea of precutting and putting backing on it. Like Kevin said, you definitely need benzoin to make the Kinesio to stay on your feet.

I agree--you certainly don't want to put alcohol on open wounds. That's something I always have to teach the boy scouts I work with. Irrigating an open wound with clean water is the way to go. I use it to clean the grime off my feet so my tape sticks better. It does dry the skin some, but I'm willing to take that tradeoff to keep the tape on better and thereby prevent a blister.

Edited by dbanner on 07/23/2014 23:13:33 MDT.

karl hafner
(khafner) - MLife

Locale: upstate NY
foot care on 07/24/2014 06:36:51 MDT Print View

great article. Enjoyed the updates. I have used the various forms of crazy glue and have had much better success with the vet form. The standard crazy glue goes on lumpy, and comes off within a day or so. The vet form will last five days. You could get your physician to write an Rx for the people version but it is expensive, I can not recommend it, it is a single use product where the vet comes in a multi use container for 3 or 4 dollars. The vet form of super glue works great for all sorts of cuts, blisters etc.

Louis Hoiland
(lhoiland) - MLife

Locale: Humboldt County, CA
Leucotape on "release paper" on 07/24/2014 09:06:43 MDT Print View

I put my Leucotape on release paper like Mike McClellen does. I get my release paper from FedEx for free. FedEx uses the slick release paper as a backing for their address labels. The FedEx folks are really nice about giving me their release paper that they are just discarding anyway. I get a bunch of the release paper, apply Leucotape to it and then cut out the strips of Leucotape to put into my first aid kit.

I have had good luck with the benzoin application before attaching Leucotape on top of blisters or hot spots. I do puncture blisters and use antibiotic on the blister before I apply the tape. In my experience, I don't normally get blisters. I do get some blisters on my toes if I'm really pushing high milage using trail running shoes. I'll try some of this kinesio tape to see how it works. Good article and discussion.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Leucotape on "release paper" on 07/24/2014 10:19:40 MDT Print View

Save the release paper backing from the kinesio tape for the leukotape and you will have a nice balanced tape ecosystem. :-)

daniel B
(dbogey) - F

Locale: East Coast
Proper Foot care on 07/24/2014 10:30:43 MDT Print View

I'm prone to hotspots and blisters on my feet no matter what shoes/boots that I use. I've used both tapes mentioned and found that Leucotape works much better for me. I always apply benzion on the area before taping. I carry the roll of tape instead of cutting because I've found that the Leuctape is sometimes difficult to peel off of paper or pens and I always end up with screwed up tape.

Proper foot care is of the utmost importance and sometimes the least understood amongst backpackers. It was always my understanding before becoming educated that "rough" feet were the best prepared feet for hiking, meaning feet with callouses would be less prone to blistering when in fact its just the opposite. The way some of us in the Army would take care of blisters was to "hot shot" the blister area with benzoin. A very painful way to eliminate it.

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: The Updated Foot-Care Kit on 07/24/2014 10:43:23 MDT Print View

Great little article and timely. Never had a problem with blisters after switching out of big boots but one should always be prepared I guess.

William Giles
(wgiles51) - M

Locale: Central Illinois
Triple Antibiotic on 07/24/2014 16:34:06 MDT Print View

Does anyone have an opinion on triple antibiotic cream vs. ointment. I generally prefer the vanishing cream myself, but I normally use it on cuts and scrapes. Would the ointment be better on open blisters?

M G
(drown) - F - MLife

Locale: Shenandoah
Providone iodine on 07/24/2014 18:45:15 MDT Print View

In addition to flushing with water I've almost always carried either a tiny bottle or wipes of providone iodine for disinfecting wounds. This was taught as best practice the last time I took any type of FA training.

Edited by drown on 07/24/2014 18:45:46 MDT.

KEN LARSON
(KENLARSON) - MLife

Locale: Western Michigan
Providone Iodine on 07/25/2014 05:59:17 MDT Print View

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10362983

Effect of povidone-iodine on wound healing: a review

Abstract

For the purpose of providing a summary of current clinical trials to determine whether povidone-iodine is beneficial or detrimental to wound healing, an integrated review was completed. Clinical trials were defined as any study that uses some concentration and form of povidone-iodine in a comparison or evaluation with other products or treatments resulting in an impact of povidone-iodine on wounds. The use of povidone-iodine for cleansing, irrigating, and dressing wounds is controversial. Wound healing is complex and requires safe and effective treatment modalities. Numerous in vitro and in vivo studies have been done with conflicting results on bactericidal effects and cytotoxicity of this antimicrobial agent. Human and animal in vivo studies in the last 10 years were used for this review because often the relevance of in vitro data in clinical conditions are questioned. The varied studies provide evidence that in most instances, povidone-iodine did not effectively promote good wound healing; in fact, most studies showed either impaired wound healing, reduced wound strength, or infection.


PMID: 10362983 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


AND

The efficacy and risks of using povidone-iodine irrigation to prevent surgical site infection: an evidence-based review

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2386220/

In conclusion, the evidence suggests that povidone-iodine irrigation may be effective in preventing surgical site infection. However, more studies, especially double-blind RCTs, should be conducted to determine the “ideal” solution of povidone-iodine irrigation as well as specific risks associated with its use.

John Yates
(yates) - M
Tape on 07/27/2014 07:32:00 MDT Print View

Rounding the corners of any piece of tape will help keep it from peeling off.

David Kern
(kerda) - MLife
Tincture of Benzoin on 07/27/2014 19:01:42 MDT Print View

Nice article. I envy those who can tolerate the use of Tincture of Benzoin to keep tape and bandages in place. Unfortunately, following the use of this substance approximately 10% of all people develop an allergic contact dermatitis as did I. Suffering a poison-ivy-like reaction in the field is not fun.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Tincture of Benzoin on 07/27/2014 21:38:44 MDT Print View

I seem to remember Colin Fletcher recommending ToB as a "foot toughener". He said he rubed it on the bottom of his feet every day while on a long trip, and in fact said he started doing this a few week before a trip.

Never heard anyone else recommend this, however.

M G
(drown) - F - MLife

Locale: Shenandoah
Re: Re: Tincture of Benzoin on 07/27/2014 21:41:54 MDT Print View

I've heard same recommendation if used on hands. To help build callouses on hands for rock climbing.

William Giles
(wgiles51) - M

Locale: Central Illinois
Leukotape repackaging on 08/05/2014 15:13:43 MDT Print View

A 35mm film canister (if you can find one) makes a good core for winding Leukotape on to. The canister is large enough that the tape will wind on and peel off easily. You can use the canister to store small items.

Freezer paper should make good release paper for tape. It has a nonstick coating on one side.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
PIF: KT Tape Pro on 08/06/2014 12:55:33 MDT Print View

KT Tape Pro

I thought I'd give this a try, mostly because of the OEM backing, so I bought a package of 20 pre-cut strips, 2" wide, in tan. This has the synthetic base (versus cotton), reputedly good for 7 days of adhesion, and waterproof. (I've cut them down to 9" to fit in a business envelope.)

One down-side, compared to non-stretch Leukotape, is that it won't work as well for repairing "hardware" like poles, buckles, etc.

I'm keeping 10, so 10 need a home. With a max of 2 per person please. If one is all you want to try, that means someone else gets to experiment.

The first PMs from Members/MLife with a complete address will get them.



AND....help out the next person when you get the chance.

Edited by greg23 on 08/06/2014 20:00:12 MDT.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: PIF: KT Tape Pro on 08/07/2014 20:49:10 MDT Print View

^^^^

Just a bump and FYI - 2 strips are left.

Edited by greg23 on 08/23/2014 15:21:42 MDT.

Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - F - M

Locale: NW Montana
Re: Walgreen's Kinesio Tape with Backing on 08/10/2014 12:07:38 MDT Print View

Thanks for the article. This is excellent and timely.

FYI, Walgreens also sells their kinesiology tape with backing and pre-cut strips (about ten inches long). It's actually stocked in their stores. Here's the link. I picked some up for the last hike.

You can also get several other brands on their website, but they're not available in the store itself.

Charles Miles
(cmiles) - MLife
'Backed' Tape From Trail Toes on 08/23/2014 13:50:05 MDT Print View

I recently found 'Trail Tape' from Trail Toes and was happy because it comes with backing on the tape - http://www.trailtoes.com/trail-store/trail-tape-tm.html - I have not used it extensively yet but it worked well the first time I needed it.

It made me happy to be able to slip 2 flat 6" pieces of tape into my kit without rewrapping tape/finding backing/...

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: 'Backed' Tape From Trail Toes on 08/23/2014 15:27:14 MDT Print View

^^^^


TrailTape

Trail Tape
5cm x 10m
$6.50 + S&H

Edited by greg23 on 08/23/2014 15:30:41 MDT.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
An easier, cheaper and lighter solution on 08/23/2014 15:34:09 MDT Print View

My foot care kit is ... zero.

I found it far, far better to wear shoes which are large enough and wide enough that I don't get foot problems in the first place. Thick wool socks also help.
Doubtless, some of you will have heard me mention this before.

Cheers