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Jake S
The new cargo pockets... on 06/30/2014 14:38:07 MDT Print View

The Multi-pack is the new helium, since anything stored in it counts as worn/carried weight and not against your base weight.

Now you can cyberhike in style. :)

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: The new cargo pockets... on 06/30/2014 14:39:36 MDT Print View

Since when does carried weight not count against your base weight?


Jake S
re: base weight on 06/30/2014 20:35:36 MDT Print View

do you count your trekking poles as your base weight?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: re: base weight on 06/30/2014 20:52:20 MDT Print View

"do you count your trekking poles as your base weight?"

What poles?

If you aren't wearing them, then you are carrying them. If poles are not consumable, then they fall into the category of base weight.


Dave -
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Up there
Re: Re: re: base weight on 06/30/2014 21:43:00 MDT Print View

Just one pole. The other is on the ground every two steps.


Packman Pete
(packmanpete) - MLife

Locale: Rainy Portland
Re: Re: Re: re: base weight on 06/30/2014 21:54:33 MDT Print View

You guys are funny :)

I could probably cram my tarp and quilt into a multipack, then wear it as a belt! Wear my puffy and rain gear.

The only thing in my pack would be food and water-all consumables. So my base weight would be 18 oz. Not bad!!

Ken T.
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: All up in there
Re: The new cargo pockets... on 06/30/2014 21:55:11 MDT Print View

Full Skin Out is the only truth ;)

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Hipster & waist packs on 07/01/2014 08:14:04 MDT Print View

Ken, my waist pack is 2L. It just barely fits my camera and lens, plus an extra lens with a hood, and an extra battery. (Side note, I'm digging m4/3 for hiking!). Its small enough that it doesn't bounce much and doesn't block my view of my feet like my previous chestpack for my DSLR did. I'm of the opinion that the smaller, the better when it comes to supplemental chest/waist packs.


Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Re: Re: Re: re: base weight on 07/01/2014 08:22:00 MDT Print View

"Just one pole. The other is on the ground every two steps."

HA! BPL gospel right here. That's rich.

Regarding the waistpack, I used to wear a hydration pack and a fanny pack (worn in the back) while cycling. I found that the constant readjustment of straps over the course of the day really wore on me. I eventually shifted to just a backpack or hydration pack, or nothing at all.

For hiking, it's the same for me. The backpack is fidgety enough; add another pack to that, and I'm spending more time on strap management than nature appreciation.

I find that anything I might "need" without taking off my pack is a problem that creates itself. I didn't know I wanted to access it until I had access. Camera excepted, nothing is really so essential that you need to access it without stopping. IMO.

Owen McMurrey
(OwenM) - F

Locale: SE US
Re: Re: Hipster & waist packs on 07/01/2014 10:13:57 MDT Print View

Jen-"can some of you guys who use the multipack in the front please post pictures?? I want to like it - I really, really do - but it seems to bounce around a bit too much for me to want to carry it.

I'd love to see what I'm doing wrong....."

Do you have it attached to your pack? I don't...
Here, I cropped a few. Couple of them will probably be hard to see much detail due to the cropping and downsizing, though.





Kevin Haskins
(kevperro) - F

Locale: Washington State
Lower on 07/01/2014 14:06:56 MDT Print View

I wear mine a little lower. No pictures though... I hike in the nude so they would quickly get removed by the forum admin.

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Re: Lower on 07/01/2014 17:46:14 MDT Print View

Ah - I used mine on one trip, around my waist and hanging in the front like a backwards fanny pack. But it kept hitting my legs when I walked, or stepped up on rocks, etc. I see you are wearing yours quite a bit higher...

Joe's pictures have it hanging on his chest, which really doesn't seem all that comfy to me. Around the waist in the front seemed like a good idea, but it just hung down too low.

Maybe I'll try it a bit your way.......

(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Between waist and chest; Heat in summer Re: Re: Lower on 07/01/2014 21:39:15 MDT Print View

I've used a large pocket as a chest pocket in the winter - I wear it between the waist and chest such that it doesn't hit my legs. Keep in mind that it can add some warmth in winter and trap heat in summer - I wouldn't want to wear one high on the chest in summer, but again between the waist and chest - cooler that way.

I often use a Dana Wet Rib all year just high enough not to interfere with my stride (I use the "Wet" bottle pocket to hold other stuff and not bottles). Love it and may make one from lighter material at some point.

Ribz also offer dual pockets (sort of like dual Dana Ribs) that ride between waist and chest, through they are heavier and more rugged.