The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen).
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Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen). on 06/09/2014 11:05:06 MDT Print View

He provided aid and comfort to the enemy by releasing five suspected terrorists and former members of the Taliban who participated in or orchestrated attacks against Americans.
He violated a law he signed six months prior requiring him to notify Congress 30 days before releasing GITMO detainees.
He has willfully and repeated violated Article I, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution by continuously amending the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.
He knowingly and willfully violated Article I, Section 7 of the U.S. Constitution by signing the ACA, knowing full well it was a bill for raising revenue that had originated in the Senate.
He engaged in fraud by repeatedly lying to the American people about the effects of the ACA by claiming that Americans could keep their current coverage and physicians if they chose.
He exercised an abuse of power by instructing, through his proxies, agents of the Internal Revenue Service to target conservative organizations and his critics for extra scrutiny and audits.
He participated in an obstruction of justice and a criminal conspiracy by hindering a Congressional investigation into the Internal Revenue Service targeting scandal and using Attorney General Eric Holder and the Department of Justice in that obstruction.
He provided aid and comfort to the enemy by ordering or allowing the sale of arms and ammunition to al-Qaida-linked terrorists in Syria and by dispatching agents of the government to advise and train in the use of the those weapons and in military tactics.
He failed, despite repeated requests by the U.S. Consulate, to provide the security necessary to ensure the safety of U.S. personnel and the Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
He knowingly and willfully denied military assistance to Americans under attack at the Benghazi Consulate, resulting in the trashing of the U.S. Consulate building, the theft of sensitive documents and the deaths of four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.
He knowingly and willfully lied and ordered his proxies to lie about the circumstances surrounding the attack on the U.S Consulate in Benghazi, thereby perpetrating a fraud on the American people in order to ensure his re-election and to cover up his illegal gun running operation.
He violated the War Powers Act by failing to gain Congressional approval for the military attack on Libya that resulted in the overthrow of the Libyan regime.
He provided aid and comfort to the enemy by using the American military and intelligence organizations and allowing the sale of arms and ammunition to al-Qaida-linked terrorists in order to assist them in overthrowing a legal regime in Libya that Congress had not declared war upon.
He has repeatedly made war on various Middle Eastern countries with the use of drone attacks without the approval of Congress in violation of the War Powers Act and in violation of Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.
He has ordered the murders of at least three American citizens without due process in violation of Amendments 5, 6, 8 and 14.
He has repeatedly used the Environmental Protection Agency to contravene Congress and pass laws harmful to American businesses and consumers, in violation of Article I, Section 1.
He has repeatedly violated the 4th Amendment by allowing agencies under his direction to continue to spy upon, wiretap and collect personal information of American citizens who are not criminal suspects.
He has repeatedly violated Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution by disregarding laws passed by Congress, including, but not limited to, U.S. immigration laws, civil rights laws and the Defense of Marriage Act.
He knowingly allowed the illegal sale of weapons to Mexican narco-terrorists that were later used to kill Americans, including border agent Brian Terry.
He obstructed justice by participating with Attorney General Holder in a cover-up of the Fast and Furious gun running scheme.


Neither Republicans nor Democrats in Washington, D.C., are interested in anything other paying lip service to the Constitution while solidifying their respective grips on power and transferring America’s wealth to their favored crony partners. That is all that matters in D.C. Neither party will intentionally do anything to upset their cushy way of life. As long as there is not a two-thirds majority of Republicans in the Senate, there will be no impeachment. But even in the off chance that Republicans were to somehow come up with 66 Senators willing to remove the President, the Republicans would not have the stomach to attempt it because the sycophantic media would gin impeachment up as a racial issue and stir up street riots that would make Watts riots look like a park stroll. Obama is the president Nixon always wanted to be.

Edited by bigfoot2 on 06/09/2014 11:06:51 MDT.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen). on 06/09/2014 14:31:57 MDT Print View

Tea Party craziness

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen). on 06/09/2014 14:34:16 MDT Print View

If Obama should be impeached for the things you stated then Bush, Cheney and all their special Pals should be in prison for life for all the lives lost in our two unjust wars.


Dude get a clue

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen). on 06/09/2014 15:54:44 MDT Print View

More plagiarized copy/paste goodness from Matthew. At least cite your sources instead of passing things off as your own words.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen) on 06/09/2014 17:27:04 MDT Print View

"If Obama should be impeached for the things you stated then Bush, Cheney and all their special Pals should be in prison for life for all the lives lost in our two unjust wars.
"

I agree. I also still think you're nuts,Ken, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Good job.

Edited by bigfoot2 on 06/09/2014 17:38:17 MDT.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen) on 06/09/2014 17:32:38 MDT Print View

Craig W....don't try and change the subject.

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Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Re: The case for impeachment (and why I think it will never happen) on 06/09/2014 17:53:43 MDT Print View

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Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
The case for impeachment on 06/09/2014 20:23:49 MDT Print View

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Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: The case for impeachment on 06/09/2014 20:42:24 MDT Print View

http://personalliberty.com/case-obamas-impeachment/

Hmm.... Déjà vu

Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear1) - F

Locale: BPL purgatory
Re: Re: The case for impeachment on 06/09/2014 21:24:18 MDT Print View

I'm not a fan of Obama by any means, however, it's not an issue about democrats vs republicans or liberals vs conservatives at the core--this is a smoke screen and a drama that they want you over focused on.

It's about special interests having largely taken over or overly influencing the federal (and to lesser extent state) government. These special interests (primarily corporations and international banks) via politicians and mainstream media (read, mostly actors) "work" both sides of the fence, often times "play dueling" to keep up appearances and keep the drama going and more believable (occasionally some of the drama is real, not all politicians are completely bought and sold).

We can't take it back, by squabbling among ourselves about and in polarized categories of liberals vs conservatives and democrats vs republicans. I suppose if you want to play into their hands, then sure, do that. Yes there are some very real differences among the common people within those categories, but we should put aside those differences and focus on the real problems--greedy, power mad sociopaths who do naught but lie, manipulate, take advantage of, all in the name of ever increasing self and selfish gain.

Some places to start. Dismantle the Federal Reserve and re-institute gold standard. Get rid of campaign funding, kick out the lobbyists, make laws forbidding corporate or international banking heads and big wigs to be instituted as public officials and vice versa--there is just too much of a conflict of interest--look at the past and present ties between Monsanto and some of the large pharma corporations and the FDA, or the ties between big oil and government back when Bush Jr was President.

More over, at a very fundamental level, selfishness and materialism has largely over taken the world powers and institutions at the highest levels, but Love and unity can take it back and transform these. It starts small and super local, it starts with you and i treating each other (and ourselves) with respect and kindness, even if we don't particularly like each other or agree with each other's views. It starts with forgiveness, with focusing on living one's higher ideals as much as they can while in this rocky world. It starts with learning how to give without thought of return, but also learning how to humbly receive with appreciation.

Edited by ArcturusBear1 on 06/09/2014 22:39:20 MDT.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
The case for impeachment on 06/10/2014 01:27:13 MDT Print View

"http://personalliberty.com/case-obamas-impeachment/

Hmm.... Déjà vu"

Nope...that's where I copied it from :) LOL What difference does it make, at this point?

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John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: The case for impeachment on 06/10/2014 07:01:42 MDT Print View

That's the coolest picture I have ever seen Beavis.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: The case for impeachment on 06/10/2014 08:47:00 MDT Print View

Because it is copyright infringement to copy and paste. That is all. And it is tacky. At least CITE your references with a link to the original.

Ryan Smith
(ViolentGreen) - F

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: Re: The case for impeachment on 06/10/2014 11:01:06 MDT Print View

Justin,

I agree with pretty much your whole post except the below. What are your thoughts on the Fed?

"Dismantle the Federal Reserve and re-institute gold standard"

Ryan

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
oh - what about that time Bush paid al qaeda for a husband and wife? on 06/10/2014 13:17:18 MDT Print View

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/10/the-right-didn-t-mind-when-bush-paid-a-ransom-to-terrorists.html

I don't seem to remember much criticism from the right back then....


It's also kind of humorous to see - wait for it - Ollie North! - criticizing the deal to free Bergdahl. Seriously???!! How can right-wing conservatives actually do this with a straight face?

http://www.salon.com/2014/06/05/worlds_worst_bergdahl_hypocrite_the_despicable_return_of_oliver_north/

Edited by Jenmitol on 06/10/2014 13:26:30 MDT.

Michael L
(mpl_35) - MLife

Locale: The Palouse
try again on 06/10/2014 14:07:36 MDT Print View

nice try Jennifer

The government helped arrange a private payment. That isn't the same as trading 5 top level terrorists for a deserter and possible traitor.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: try again on 06/10/2014 15:26:08 MDT Print View

http://abcnews.go.com/US/rampaging-couple-booted-bundy-ranch-radical/story?id=24067414o




I would assume Matthew is a card carrying member of Patriot Nation.....

I wonder what your thoughts on Vegas Matthew.

. Kirby
(Kirby805) - F
lol okay pal on 06/10/2014 15:30:33 MDT Print View

More evidence that conservatives will never again field an electable candidate at the national level. You would think losing 5 of last six elections (by popular vote) would have clued them into their delusions, but no. They decided to turn their delusions up to 11.

. Kirby
(Kirby805) - F
Re: lol okay pal on 06/10/2014 15:40:29 MDT Print View

Almost forgot. Impeaching Clinton - remember that? Seems to have done wonders for his popularity. More evidence that conservatives never learn.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Re: Re: The case for impeachment on 06/10/2014 18:31:18 MDT Print View

"I agree with pretty much your whole post except the below. What are your thoughts on the Fed?"

same here

gold standard makes no sense because people (or governments) can manipulater gold price by selling or not huge quantities

and the amount of money supply needed to have an efficient global economy has nothing to do with the amount of gold

and after the creation of the federal reserve, the great depression occured. The federal reserve didn't do much to prevent that. Friedman says they made it worse. But since then there haven't been any great depressions. Before the 1930s there were frequent of great depressions.

the 2000s "great recession" would have been much worse

Greenspan totally screwed things up in 2000. He talked about "irrational exuberance" and then increased interest rates which fixed the irrational exuberance, but crashed the economy, he should have just increased margin requirements

So, the federal reserve isn't perfect, but they're not all powerful either, better than no federal reserve