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Dan Magdoff
(highsierraguy) - F

Locale: Northern California
First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 17:51:23 MDT Print View

Hey all

I wanted to see what everyone keeps in their first aid kits. I have always had a pretty big and bulky one because ive always wanted to be prepared for just about anything. I am an ER nurse so I guess its kinda my passion.

Recently, I have been rethinking what I should keep in my kit. I thought I would break it down logically into medical problems that could happen in the back country, and then decide what would be needed. Obviously just about anything could go wrong out there...but I am thinking of the most common and likely to happen. Heres what a got...

Minor and major lacerations
Fractures (most common being fingers, toes and then long bones)
Compromised joints such as sprains, and over exerted or torn ligiments
burns
Allergic reactions
Pain and inflammation
GI upset
Blisters

SO....looking at each of those my first aid contents list would look something like this...

band-aids
2x2 gauze pads
4x4 gauze pads
antiseptic wipes
Surgical glue
sutures
Finger splint
tape
gauze wrap
kerlix wrap
ACE bandage
Benadryl
Ibuprofin
Imodium
Tape
mole skin
10cc flushing syringe

It seems like a lot, but I feel like that would cover most anything that would happen.

Thoughts?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 18:06:41 MDT Print View

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Edited by kthompson on 05/11/2014 18:14:29 MDT.

Kenda Willey
(sonderlehrer) - M
Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 19:32:35 MDT Print View

Your first aid kit sounds like mine, and I also have the feeling that it's too much. I don't have a flushing syringe, but it sounds like a good idea, and I think I'll add that to mine.
Another thing I've started carrying that isn't first aid but is related is a PLB (personal locator beacon). If someone got seriously injured, I think that the best first aid would be a rescue.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 19:44:19 MDT Print View

"I think that the best first aid would be a rescue."

Rescues are technology, personnel, and weather dependent. 24 hours likely. 48+ probable.

If you think S&R is going to take care of that blister, twisted ankle, or bleeding compound fracture, you've got the wrong idea about PLB's, as well as "first aid".

Edited by greg23 on 05/11/2014 19:50:33 MDT.

Brian Mix
(Aggro) - M

Locale: Western slope, Sierra Nevada
fak on 05/11/2014 19:44:38 MDT Print View

Going off memory as I'm not home to look,I have Advil, Claritin, maybe a couple Tylenol hand sanitizer and duct tape.

Edited by Aggro on 05/11/2014 19:46:01 MDT.

Dan Magdoff
(highsierraguy) - F

Locale: Northern California
First aid on 05/11/2014 20:11:04 MDT Print View

Being on a SAR team, id have to agree thata PLB is a very differnet topic than first aid...but still very important!

Ken- Thanks for the great links!

Brian- Id think you wouldnt need Tylenol and Advil. Tylenol will help with some pain and a fever, but wont do anything for inflamation. Advil will help with all 3....I think all you really need is the advil. Id also think benedryl would be better than claritan....if your seaonal alergies are bad enough to take medication, benedryl would work really well, (although may make you drowsy). But benedryl will also help with alergic reactions and anaphylaxis. Hand sanitizer sounds like a good idea. I cary duct tape as well as Leukotape.

Kenda Willey
(sonderlehrer) - M
Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 21:15:57 MDT Print View

Greg, maybe you missed the first part of the sentence--the one where I wrote "If someone got seriously injured"?

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 21:30:26 MDT Print View

Nope.

If someone gets seriously injured you need to know what to do to keep them alive/stable. And have the stuff to accomplish that.

"First" aid.

It's the difference between "evacuation" and "recovery".

Edited by greg23 on 05/11/2014 21:34:40 MDT.

Jake S.
(spags) - M
re: re-use what you've got on 05/11/2014 21:35:50 MDT Print View

Benadryl
Ibuprofin
Imodium
4ft duck tape
superglue
zinc oxide cream
soap

If necessary: I could use my flip top alcohol bottle as an irrigation syringe and my bandana as a cloth bandage if necessary my trekking pole could--more or less--be a splint.

Edited by spags on 05/11/2014 22:15:11 MDT.

TKB 1979
(ARIZONA1979) - M

Locale: DESERT SOUTHWEST
Re: Re: Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 21:51:42 MDT Print View

Okay, I'm going to play my moron card. What's a PLB? (I was able to brainstorm out the Search & Rescue one - hehehe.)

TKB 1979
(ARIZONA1979) - M

Locale: DESERT SOUTHWEST
Re: Re: Re: Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 21:53:20 MDT Print View

Personal Locator Beacon - nevermind - just read closer.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 21:54:01 MDT Print View

Personal Locator Beacon.

Intended for emergencies, was once know as a EPLB, and now gets used when the water tastes bad.

Glenn S
(Glenn64) - M

Locale: Snowhere, MN
Re: First aid on 05/11/2014 22:04:48 MDT Print View

Ultralight, being what it is, I'm of the opinion that a personal kit should focus more on an individuals own susceptibilities. Allergies, reactions, wound infection, brittle bones, etc.

Of course for a trained responder, a more rounded kit would be necessary for treating other peoples problems, but I think it's overkill to try and pack for every scenario just for yourself.

Multi-use seems a main mantra for first aid as well, splints, slings, wipes, even the Sawyer syringe for irrigation. Thinking about it, a specially devised bottle cap would probably work quite well.

Dan Magdoff
(highsierraguy) - F

Locale: Northern California
First aid on 05/11/2014 22:18:30 MDT Print View

Looking at my OP, is there any other likey senarios that could happen in the backcountry that I did not list?

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: First aid on 05/11/2014 22:22:50 MDT Print View

Crack Rash and/or Chaffing

Edited by greg23 on 05/11/2014 22:23:36 MDT.

Glenn S
(Glenn64) - M

Locale: Snowhere, MN
Re: First aid on 05/11/2014 22:24:23 MDT Print View

I carry one of those little sealed packets of triple antibiotic ointment and hydrocortisone cream. Infection is a concern of mine.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: First aid on 05/11/2014 22:26:08 MDT Print View

Heart attack

From laughing at Greg.

Dan Magdoff
(highsierraguy) - F

Locale: Northern California
first aid on 05/11/2014 22:42:32 MDT Print View

I do carry (seperately from my first aid kit) some body glide and goldbond powder for any chafing or crack rash.

I worry about infection as well, but it will take some time for an infection develop and most likey you would be off the trail by the time that happens. I guess it would be a bigger concern for long through hikes. The 2 types of infection would be from an open wound, or an internal infection from contaminated food or water. I think an infection from a wound could be prevented with good wound care such as irrigating the wound well and a clean dressing. The other type of infection could only be treate with oral or IV antibiotics...however, that type of infection would take a while to present its self when you would most likely be off the trail.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: first aid on 05/11/2014 22:52:22 MDT Print View

Before you finalize that first aid kit, you probably need to define where it is that you will be carrying it.

For example, if you are mostly on flat trails, then maybe you need less overall. If you are on high rocky trails, then maybe you need more stuff for foot injuries...and so on. For high altitude snow country, then you need more stuff for cold injuries. If you are in a third-world country, then you probably need to prepare more for gastrointestinal insults from impure water and contaminated food. If somebody was going to be spending a couple of weeks hiking the JMT, then consider how to treat a bad toothache for a couple of weeks.

--B.G.--

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: First aid kit contents on 05/11/2014 22:55:15 MDT Print View

bandaids, some antiseptic wipes, antiseptic gel, mole skin, a few pain pills
i also carry a 0.8 ounce package of quicklot.
don't know what else to bring, I know nothing about first aid.