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Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
SMD fusion 65 on 05/05/2014 18:49:21 MDT Print View

Anyone have hands on experience with this pack?

Please report!

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife
Re: SMD fusion 65 on 05/05/2014 20:25:35 MDT Print View

Its only been available for ~2 weeks... a dozen or so hikers on the PCT are using it after buying them at the Kickoff.

Edited by JohnAbela on 05/12/2014 14:23:50 MDT.

Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
thanks on 05/06/2014 05:39:28 MDT Print View

Have you heard back from anyone over there how they like it?

and yes. thank you for your hands on experience with the pack!

Edited by werne1nm on 05/06/2014 05:45:50 MDT.

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: thanks on 05/06/2014 11:15:20 MDT Print View

I agree.

For a pack that I think will be a game changer in the industry, there is nothing out on it yet.
There was a small scale sale of them sold a few months ago so there are some that have been out there for more than just 2 weeks.

I was expecting fireworks by now, from people wanting to get the word out on how much they like them.

I guess as John said, they are all hiking.

But come on, there has got to be someone that has loaded this baby up and cranked out a weekend trip on it and has something to say about it.

Anybody???

Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
the first on 05/06/2014 11:41:27 MDT Print View

I may have to just buy and it and review it for the sake of BPL!

josh jordan
(jjchgo) - M
funsion on 05/06/2014 11:48:48 MDT Print View

i was backpacking with a guy last weekend that had one. all i can tell you is what he said. he said he was carrying abou 30lbs. i asked him after saturdays hike(15-17 miles) how he felt and how the pack carried the weight. he said, he felt great and was very happy how the pack carried the weight.

hth

Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
Not made in the US on 05/06/2014 11:52:02 MDT Print View

i just read on the SMD website that these are NOT made in the USA... I think that might highly sway my decision...

not that its a big deal. but it matters to me... shouldn't it?

us

Edited by werne1nm on 05/06/2014 11:54:17 MDT.

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
Yes, Please -- Somebody with a Review? on 05/06/2014 11:53:57 MDT Print View

I am desperately hard-to-fit with packs [5'6" with a 15" torso(!), broad shoulders and medium hips] -- dying to hear more before I order one...hoping the wide range of adjustments will allow it it FIT me.

Still hesitating before I pull the trigger, 'cuz it's a big chunk 'o change to buy a pack...worried that the capacity of the main compartment might be small-ish once I put a BearVault BV500 in there, so I'd LOVE to hear more about that, and the fit/comfort (esp. the hip belt).

Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
Re: Yes, Please -- Somebody with a Review? on 05/06/2014 11:55:07 MDT Print View

your all legs aren't you valerie?! :)

and yes for me its a big chunk of change as well.

I know the review of the ULA circuit are good and am debating between the two!

Edited by werne1nm on 05/06/2014 11:56:24 MDT.

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
RE: Re: Yes, Please -- Somebody with a Review? on 05/06/2014 12:08:15 MDT Print View

Nathan W -- that's EXACTLY where I'm at: SMD Fusion 65 vs ULA Circuit!!!! Gotta decide in the next few weeks, sigh.

Hoping someone who has received an SMD 65 will see this, and be willing to talk about their initial impressions, esp. size-wise and carrying comfort with weight. BTW, I heard from another BPL member who owns the Fusion 50, and he said he felt like the main compartment was on the smaller side (but I'd like to hear from more than one person, and would like to hear about the 65 specifically).

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
Re: Not made in the US on 05/06/2014 12:24:31 MDT Print View

You have to give Ron Moak respect for honesty and saying publically what many/most will not. I think it's safe to assume one could insert "affordable" or "competitive" between for and US.

Only you can decide if domestic production is something worth paying for, but it's certainly a reasonable thing to consider.

Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
Re: RE: Re: Yes, Please -- Somebody with a Review? on 05/06/2014 12:33:32 MDT Print View

the main compartment from my understanding isn't 65liters, its 3100 cu. inches. with the addition of the volume of the pockets it equals 65

same thing with the circuit albeit the circuit has an even smaller main compartment at 2400 cu in.


i think i might pull the trigger on the Fusion and give it a try. I'm pretty pick on features but have not had a pack that doesn't fit me yet.

Chad B
(CenAZwalker) - F

Locale: Southwest
No review yet on 05/06/2014 16:06:01 MDT Print View

I have a Fusion 50 and have had it out on a few day hikes but don't feel that I'm at a place to really give it even an initial review yet. I have a week long trip coming up later this month where I will be hauling a lot of water. I'll probably post some opinions on the pack after that trip.

And Valerie, where in AZ are you? If we can work it out, you are more than welcome to try out the Fusion 50 to check torso sizing.

Mark Haffner
(markhaffner) - M

Locale: PNW
SMD fusion 65 on 05/06/2014 18:04:11 MDT Print View

Bought one at The Mountain Shop in Portland about 10 days ago and tried it out this last weekend in the Columbia Gorge, so not much experience with it yet, but here is my initial reaction. Regular size shoulder yoke, and medium hipbelt. The shoulder yoke is infinitely adjustable as it attaches to the yoke with velcro. I'm 6'2"+ and I had to extend it above the large about an inch. Not sure how much more adjustment there would be. SMD only has small and regular sized shoulder yokes. The hip belt is substantial and has good adjustment with an upper and lower adjuster on each side. I liked how this worked and was surprised what a difference a small adjustment made. The back main pocket expands to hold a lot and is secure. The side pockets expand well. One complaint is that the tops of the side pockets are easily expandable too with no way to secure larger items. Seems like some items may work there way out. Didn't have any problem but concerned me. The shoulder harness pockets are high up, very small, and I found them to be hard to access, so didn't (and doubt will ever) use them. Lots of rain over the weekend and seemed to be pretty water resistant, but not water proof. Took extra stuff/water to 25-30 lbs as I wanted to test it. Very comfortable, stable (compression straps work very well), and easy to pack, and easily handled all of my gear with enough room for extra water if needed. Last week I put in my daughters Bearikade Weekender. Fits vertically, but not quite horizontally. They are 9" round and 10.5" high.

Overall Seems like a very nice pack

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
Mark's Initial Impressions on 05/06/2014 18:17:37 MDT Print View

Bless you, Mark!!!!!

Thank you -- This is exactly the type of stuff I wanted to know. One more question, if I may have your indulgence:

When the Bearikade Weekender was in the main compartment (vertically), how much room was left in that compartment for sleeping bag, clothes, misc. stuff? Would there still be adequate room for that stuff if it was a Bearikade Expedition instead of the Weekender?

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Expedition versus Weekender on 05/06/2014 18:55:20 MDT Print View

14.5" versus 10.5" respectively.

Mark Haffner
(markhaffner) - M

Locale: PNW
Bearikade expedition on 05/06/2014 22:30:59 MDT Print View

You aren't going to get any bulky gear to fit next to the vertical bearikade. My sleeping bag, full food bag, or tarp wouldn't fit. But there is room to stuff smaller gear. Probably about 24-26" usable height in pack, maybe a little more so the expedition would fill a lot of this pack, as it would a lot of other packs.

Mark Haffner
(markhaffner) - M

Locale: PNW
Bearikade expedition on 05/06/2014 22:48:27 MDT Print View

Val, I didn't spend much time with the bearikade, just put it in to see horizontal vs vertical fit. All the bulky items I mentioned would fit with a little adjustment. I'll get the bearikade in the next couple of days and pack some stuff around it and let you know.

Edward Jursek
(nedjursek@gmail.com) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Fusion pack on 05/07/2014 03:13:50 MDT Print View

Read " far too complex for US production" as being "far too expensive and hard on our profit margin for US production." Plenty of great packs made in America, just at higher prices then the market SMD is aiming for. I found the comment unfortunate and offensive.

Nathan W
(werne1nm) - M

Locale: Michigan
Re: Fusion pack on 05/07/2014 04:27:26 MDT Print View

edited

Edited by werne1nm on 05/07/2014 05:48:06 MDT.