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TKB 1979

TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 21:41:30 MDT Print View

Okay, after doing some research & re-evaluating my pack, I shaved off 3 lbs. So weight without water or food went from 14 lbs. to 11 lbs. (still have a 4 oz. fuel canister in there).

I took out the bulky roll of toilet paper. I've heard to use dried wet wipes, which I have packed now, then to rehydrate in the field for use.

So, I'm curious what others do to solve the toilet paper problem?

David Drake
(DavidDrake) - F

Locale: North Idaho
Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 21:45:21 MDT Print View

No TP. No Problem.

J Mag
Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 21:45:27 MDT Print View

There is a toilet paper problem?

My roll of TP weighs 1/4 of an ounce. What issue are we talking about here?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 21:46:06 MDT Print View

Use it, then burn it with a lighter and bury the ashes with everything else.

I classify that as a consumable item.


TKB 1979

Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 21:58:32 MDT Print View

Lol - okay, maybe I'm over thinking it. It was more the bulk I had in mind. Then I was thinking maybe there was some sort of trick to it ... but I guess not. Wipe & burn - got it. :)

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - M

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 22:17:32 MDT Print View

start at 4:50

this is how i do it.

TKB 1979

Re: Re: Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 22:26:01 MDT Print View

I'm scared to click on that link ....

Dan Dru
(Dandru) - F

Locale: Down Under
Re: Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 22:28:20 MDT Print View

That's a valid point and lots of people would over compensate but when a roll weighs in at around 110 grams, it's not a major problem.

If you look at the gear lists, you'll see an allowance for sheets/squares etc. I noticed the other day, one person allowed three sheets a day, 5 sheets weighs 2 grams.

I take half a roll because I'll be using it for other things, but if I run out, I'll use my bushcraft skills.

TKB 1979

Re: Re: Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 22:30:18 MDT Print View

Actually, that was pretty funny.

Mark Fowler
(KramRelwof) - MLife

Locale: Namadgi
My solution on 05/02/2014 22:32:15 MDT Print View

Don't take a full roll. When the roll at home gets about 80% used replace it. You then have an adequate supply for a few days. You will find that you can flatten the roll and even remove the centre cardboad tube. I pack in a zip lock bag with a dropper bottle of sanitising gel.

I have been on a 10 day trip when one member of the party rationed their tp to 3 sheets a day. A couple of days in, a mild bout of the runs and only very spikey foliage had the going rate for a sheet up to a $1.

Edited by KramRelwof on 05/02/2014 22:35:30 MDT.

Steve Zavoda
(Anotherdyemention) - F

Locale: NE Ohio
3 sheets a day? on 05/02/2014 23:22:28 MDT Print View

Did that person clip their nails and get their hai cut before the trip? Prolly coulda saved em another half of gram. Clip the toenails too and they coulda went crazy and used four sheets a day.

Daniel Pittman
(pitsy) - M

Locale: Central Texas
Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/02/2014 23:38:01 MDT Print View

Depending on location, burning TP can be hazardous. Burying it is not ideal either. Packing out used TP is the only method I endorse. Personally, I avoid the problem all together by either using natural materials, or my hand. You wash your hands after pooping anyway, right?

Cameron Habib
(camhabib) - F
Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/03/2014 00:26:31 MDT Print View

Using bacterial and fungal harboring leaves, because what's potentially altering your gut microbiome (I urge you to look up FMT and how it's performed), which has repeatedly been shown to control countless wide ranging things from psychological to epigenetic to health related topics, when you're trying to save 0.15% of your body weight from your pack.

It's my personal opinion that sometimes there is more to gear choices than simply weight. As a quick example, not using full coverage while sleeping outdoors in New England. Ticks which carry Staph, Lyme Disease (which current research indicates may never be eradicated from your system), and numerous other bacterial pathogens, which is to mention nothing of flying insects (EEE anyone?). Sure, you save a few ounces (keep in mind, 1oz for a 150lbs person is 0.04% body weight) by not packing an enclosed sleeping arrangement (or in this case toilet paper), but you run the risk of potentially picking up a viral, bacterial, or parasitic infection that may lay dormant for years.

Mark S
(gixer) - F
Another vote for wet wipes here on 05/03/2014 04:03:11 MDT Print View

I use wet wipes, 60 grams for 15 of them

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Usually have 2 packets, one for washing the other for toilet duties.

Usually leave my poop in the hole and bag the wipes to carry them out.

Edited by gixer on 05/03/2014 04:03:46 MDT.

Phillip Asby

Locale: North Carolina
Polarizing on 05/03/2014 05:27:27 MDT Print View

I've not really worried about weight but have worried about lnt. I've been in a campsite in panthertown valley that was less than ideal despite a lovely riverside location by tp remnants exposed by high waters. I sharpened a stick and threw as much as I could into our troops campfire later that night. It seems like the bigger challenge is getting people to go 200 feet from water and dig a proper cathole. In the rich damp southeast soil I expect the tp properly buried would decompose pretty quickly but that debate gets lost when you have too many people not getting the most basics right...

Anyway I carry tp and don't worry about the weight really and I for sure have more than 3 sheets a day. No desire to have a backcountry stomach ache and not have a reasonable amount of tp available. I also have some flushable wipes available but those get packed out even if they are supposed to break down quickly.

Daryl and Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Re: Re: Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/03/2014 08:25:02 MDT Print View


I dared to watch the video (I've actually seen it before).

Looks like good advice. I wince when I she him throw the "sh.t cones" to the side, however. I'd sure prefer to see them go into the cat hole.

I also notice that he is waaay more flexible than me.

Jerry Smith
(crossfox21) - F

Locale: East Oregon
Please on 05/03/2014 09:17:06 MDT Print View

Please tell me there are not fellow BP'ers out there wiping themselves with their bare hands! This is a recipe for disaster! Let's a few ounces on TP...or catch some crazy fecal matter disease.

David Drake
(DavidDrake) - F

Locale: North Idaho
Re: Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/03/2014 09:55:48 MDT Print View

@ Cameron Habib:

I suppose you can point to peer-reviewed literature providing evidence that going TP-free in the North American backcountry poses a significant risk of "picking up a viral, bacterial, or parasitic infection that may lay dormant for years."

I assume anyone not new to lightweight backpacking knows of safe, effective, and sanitary methods for going TP-free. Some of us do, some of us don't. But that choice has little to do with saving a few grams.

John H
(pastyj) - F

Locale: SE US
Re: TOILET PAPER on 05/03/2014 10:05:27 MDT Print View

I take hypoallergenic baby wipes and paper towels. The wipes are pretty heavy so I budget 4-5 per day. I keep meaning to try the dehydration trick...anybody else do that regularly?

Will Reitveld posted somewhere about how paper towels are a great multi-use item. Since they are much stronger than TP, he (and I) found that you can generally complete the task with 1/2 of a towel (buy the ones that are cut that way). Also great for cleaning the floor of your tent, wiping spills, etc. etc. The baby wipes generally are reserved for a quick "shower" at the end of the day, face washing in the morning, or if you are unlucky enough to have your constitution disrupted mid-trip (yikes).

Buried properly I doubt that a paper towel does much damage to the environment, and packing it out is also an option.

Edited by pastyj on 05/03/2014 10:07:06 MDT.

Gary Dunckel
(Zia-Grill-Guy) - MLife

Locale: Boulder
Re: Toilet paper on 05/03/2014 10:18:21 MDT Print View

For a long time I was a user of Wet Ones, in the field and at home. Then one day the septic system guy was doing his regular maintenance thing, and he pointed out a slew of "white things" floating around in the septic tank. So I switched over to the "flushable" or biodegradable unscented baby wipes. I open the bulk package and air dry them for hiking use. When they're needed, I just wet them with a splash of water and they're ready for action again. They are fairly strong and quite light--I think 8 of them in a pint Ziploc freezer bag weigh about 0.6 oz.