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Joel Stephenson
(fooby) - F

Locale: Northumberland, UK
Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 03:33:03 MDT Print View

Does anybody know of a good design for a foil lid or similar to fit over a bowl while cooking on a gas stove? I've just been using lots of layers of foil, cut to the right shape, but it rarely lasts a trip without having to be replaced. Not the end of the world, but surely somebody has a genius alternative?

Thank you!

Edited by fooby on 04/23/2014 03:33:37 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 07:20:03 MDT Print View

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/search.html?q=diy+lids&x=-1239&y=-92

Mark Ries
(mtmnmark) - M

Locale: IOWAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 07:58:15 MDT Print View

Get a oven liner from the dollar store, cut it an inch bigger all around or 2 inches bigger in diameter and fold it over the edge. Secure with a rubber band and it stays on great in pack

todd harper
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: Sunshine State
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 08:30:15 MDT Print View

Joel,

Cut the wall out of an aluminum can and use Intense Angler's instructions to make a lid. You can find him on Youtube. Light, free, fun, & cool.

Please show us what you've done!

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 09:01:03 MDT Print View

you mean like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62BtVoQYDlI

One thing good about that design, compared to my Evernew Ti pot lid, is stuff that falls on top of the lid will fall off and out. With my Ti lid, stuff can fall into the pot

Maybe you want water that condenses on the inside of the lid to fall into the pot, which the Ti maybe does better?

Maybe ideal would be the lid to be higher in the middle, lower next to the edge of the pot, a little higher going over the edge, and then lower so stuff that falls on top will just fall off.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 09:15:02 MDT Print View

Joel, if you are lucky enough to have a pot that has the right size, you can use a lid from a cheap microwaveable container like a ziplock. This will perform the number one function of holding in the heat. Surprisingly there are a large number of perfect fits! A lot of the "cup shape" pots are fit by the lids from the 1 cup ziplocks. Many of the wider pots are fit by one of the larger sized round ziplock lids. As long at you have boiling water in the pot there should be no issue as to the heat, and this is about as light and cheap as it gets. I have in the past superglued Al foil to the bottom of these lid, but turns out they don't really need the extra protection.

Good luck.

Edited by millonas on 04/23/2014 09:16:34 MDT.

Joel Stephenson
(fooby) - F

Locale: Northumberland, UK
Re on 04/23/2014 10:29:25 MDT Print View

Thank you for the fast and helpful advice!

I think the oven liner might be the best bet, I tried the aluminium can but my pot is just slightly to big to crimp the edges over. I'll keep a look out for one of those plastic lids too. Ice cream pots maybe?

Kevin Beeden
(captain_paranoia) - F

Locale: UK
oven liner in the UK? on 04/23/2014 12:09:36 MDT Print View

You'll be lucky...

Go and buy a nice pie. It will come with a foil pie tray.

mmmm... pie...

I'm guessing the YouTube video is similar to the method I used for can side wall:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/forum/gear/myog-lightweight-pan-lid/37159.html

Will a pint* can not be big enough?

* A 'proper pint', that is: 567ml...

Joel Stephenson
(fooby) - F

Locale: Northumberland, UK
Re: oven liner in the UK? on 04/23/2014 12:16:48 MDT Print View

The pint can might be just about perfect actually... I forgot we had those!

Stuart R
(Scunnered) - F

Locale: Scotland
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 13:43:56 MDT Print View

Since you posted this in the MYOG forum, I can suggest that you make a 'proper' lid:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=74524

Joel Stephenson
(fooby) - F

Locale: Northumberland, UK
Re: Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 14:29:19 MDT Print View

Nice work Stuart! If I tried to replicate that design, it would fall off all the time and be covered in sharp edges that would rip my puffy and sleeping bag, before tearing through the pack itself and rolling off the mountain... Probably best stick to old beer cans ;)

Edited by fooby on 04/23/2014 14:29:52 MDT.

Jeffrey Tilghman
(jjtilghman) - M
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/23/2014 16:15:51 MDT Print View

You could try the bottom of a large Gatorade or similar bulk canister. Might fit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BCaKYYRZs

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Just for reference on 04/23/2014 18:17:16 MDT Print View

Some popular pots with plastic microwavable lids:

tops


Bottom, Evernew 0.6L, top from ziploc 2 cup bowl container.

Top left Evernew 0.9L with Glad 4 cup container top.

Top right: snow peak 600 ml pot with top from 1 cup ziplock bowl container. This one also fit the Jetboil Sol Ti and is much lighter than the jetboil plastic top.

There are loads more combos as well, all lighter than the other options. In the UK you may have to investigate what is available there. Might want to avoid plastic from containers not specifically rated as "microwavable".

These are easy to mod in seconds, are inexpensive and you can make a lifter using aluminumized tape. I usually do that and cut of the existing handles to make the whole thing more cylindrical and easier to fit into a stuff sack. You can even use the original container, with shared lid as a re-hydration/eating bowl, if you like.

Edited by millonas on 04/23/2014 18:22:56 MDT.

Delmar O'Donnell
(Bolster)

Locale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
Flashing is Difficult on 04/23/2014 18:20:54 MDT Print View

I don't have a success to report, but maybe can help you avoid some frustration. If you want a nicely bent lid that fits to the inside of your pot, aluminum flashing is very difficult to form. I have seen guys on BPL who have the patience and know-how to accomplish it, but aluminum flashing is very springy and tough, and really needs to be annealed before you can form it easily into a lid.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Flashing is Difficult on 04/23/2014 18:24:39 MDT Print View

Delmar I agree. Stuarts workmanship on that lid is amazing. YMMV. A lot! I think he may be part Elf.

Glenn S
(Glenn64) - M

Locale: Snowhere, MN
Re: Flashing is Difficult on 04/23/2014 19:02:34 MDT Print View

Agreed on the aluminum flashing. It's a PITA. My best attempt on a 12cm Imusa. About as small of a diameter as I can get to work marginally well. Any smaller and oven liner foil seems better.

Lid

David Ayers
(djayers) - F
Re: Good Lid Designs? on 04/24/2014 14:16:42 MDT Print View

In addition to oven liners, many groceries sell aluminum pie plates, roasting pans, and various other forms. Some of them have bends in the right places that add some stiffness which is nice. I made a crimped edge lid from a $2 pie plate for the Stanco grease pot that weighs 0.5 oz.