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Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Tent Tech on 04/23/2014 16:12:10 MDT Print View

Yes I too see a blur between say a Notch/Strato Spire with (or without...) the inner (fabric or mesh) and the shaped tarp or pyramid that so many use an inner (extra weight and cost) with...

Michael K
Yes there are several Tarptents that have a fabric inner as an option.
This is the SS2 with it. The SS1 looks exactly the same as that. You can set up either fly or inner by themselves too
The fabric inner for the Notch has a mesh top third but the sides are exactly how you describe what you are after.
SS2 with solid inner

This is the fly set up as a shaped tarp. The two halves of the door panels can also be open leaving you with a "roof" but full side views.
SS2 fly only

Edited by Franco on 04/23/2014 16:15:00 MDT.

Dave T
(DaveT) - F
to moderate is to delete on 04/23/2014 16:45:10 MDT Print View

"Well, we can't. At least not anymore. Ryan made sure of that with the Best Ultralight Tent thread."


Shhhhhh. Don't raise the ire of The Great One, or you will find this thread "moderated" out of existence also.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Double moment on 04/28/2014 10:54:02 MDT Print View

Okay, Henry, the weekend is over.

Weight?
Headroom?
Other details?
More pictures?

:)

Not that I'm eager or anything...

Joel Benford
(Morte66) - F - M

Locale: Surrey flatlands, England
Re: Another Look at Tent Design on 05/01/2014 10:01:26 MDT Print View

"WHAT ASPECTS OF TENT DESIGN (esp. your current tent) DO YOU WANT TO SEE IMPROVED?"

I'd like to see something wonderful happen with waterproof bivvies usable as complete shelters. They have their niche, but usually lose out to other shelters.

Some time back somebody wrote of a particular knife "just holding it makes me want to gut a trout". Well, just looking at an eVent bivvy makes me want to do the Pyrrenean High Route with a wood burning stove and a knife.

Some designer needs to have a stroke of inspiration.

Todd Taylor
(texasbb) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Another Look at Tent Design on 05/01/2014 21:17:41 MDT Print View

"Some designer needs to have a stroke of inspiration."

Some designer just needs to post the specs on a Double Moment! Not that I'm trying to rush said designer. :-)

Joel Benford
(Morte66) - F - M

Locale: Surrey flatlands, England
And another thing... on 05/02/2014 16:25:36 MDT Print View

Since people have been known to hike non-solo, with 4+ poles between them, I wonder what could be done with 2+ person shelters designed for 4 trecking poles?

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 16:34:11 MDT Print View

Sorry about the delay. Came home sick from the PCT Kickoff and was pretty much out of commission for a few days.

I just posted a Double Moment page with more photos and specs here -->

http://www.tarptent.com/doublemoment_whatsnew.html

-H

Todd Taylor
(texasbb) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 17:14:04 MDT Print View

Thanks, Henry! Fits up to 7-footers, woo-hoo! Wish I needed a 2-person tent right now...

Hope you're feeling better.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 17:23:29 MDT Print View

Hi, Henry -

Thanks for the pictures and info - and I too hope you are feeling better now. Any chance of finding out the weight of the fly plus arch pole, without the inner, when you have a chance?

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 17:36:02 MDT Print View

Love it. Nice design.

Any chance you may be working on a 2 person Cloudburst? Something a little smaller?

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 17:49:31 MDT Print View

> Any chance you may be working on a 2 person Cloudburst? Something a little smaller?

Dave, the Cloudburst 2 retired to Tahiti a few years ago. I get an occasional postcard and all it says is, "Je d├ęteste le camping!"

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 17:51:31 MDT Print View

LOL.

The cold medicine is working well, I see.

(still laughing)

Henry Shires
(07100) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 17:53:20 MDT Print View

> Any chance of finding out the weight of the fly plus arch pole, without the inner

Something like 13.5 ounces, at least that's what this pre-production version weighs.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Tent Tech / Double Moment on 05/03/2014 23:46:17 MDT Print View

Hmmm... is that really the fly PLUS the arch pole, or am I misunderstanding?

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Tent Tech on 05/04/2014 01:48:28 MDT Print View

Must be the medicine...
I think Henry posted the weight of the inner not the fly+pole.
I would think that fly+pole will be about 37 oz.

Bob Bankhead
(wandering_bob) - MLife

Locale: Oregon, USA
Re: Tent Tech on 05/04/2014 07:58:27 MDT Print View

The Tarptent website claims 52 oz. total weight for the Double Moment (DW)


23.5 oz. Inner tent (Henry + Franco's opinion)

4.0 oz. End struts (website)

37.0 oz. Fly + arch pole (Franco's estimate)

51.0 oz. Total.


For comparison, the Double Rainbow (41 oz) with the optional liner (4 oz) weighs 45 oz.


Adding insult to injury, we just bought a second Double Rainbow last Fall, and now Henry - evil person that he is - comes out with THIS jewel.

A POX UPON HIM!

Edited by wandering_bob on 05/04/2014 08:03:58 MDT.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
PLEASE Post photos of the new Double Moment DW (Moment DW 2??) on 05/04/2014 16:20:48 MDT Print View

We're waiting with bated breath to see photos of this newest Tarptent!

Eric Osburn
(osb40000) - MLife
Pics on 05/04/2014 16:39:35 MDT Print View

http://www.tarptent.com/doublemoment_whatsnew.html

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Tent Tech on 05/04/2014 16:53:29 MDT Print View

Here is one :
Double Moment
This is a set up that some will like :
DM end poles

Edited by Franco on 05/04/2014 17:00:56 MDT.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Suggestion #1 on 05/04/2014 21:02:05 MDT Print View

The ground level webbing at each end should be adjustable for a wider spread of the fly corners to lower it if winds shift to the end of the tent.

Yeah, there's a good fly overhang at each end but it's still a wind funnel.

Otherwise I love it - until I think of suggestion #2, that is. ;o)

Great end support option with hiking poles.