The lost "jet engine" ground pad inflator?
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Sharon Bingham
(cowboisgirl) - F - MLife

Locale: Southwest
The lost "jet engine" ground pad inflator? on 04/17/2014 11:38:24 MDT Print View

This is totally a shot in the dark, but I've looked everywhere, and cannot find the gadget I am looking for, so I'm hoping someone here knows/remembers what I'm talking about.

3-4 years ago or so, I found a link on a thread in these forums about a new handheld electronic inflator pump for use with ground pads, such as the Downmat. The gadget was new to the market, but did have its own website, which had pictures of it. It was small (palm-sized I believe), yellow, and looked a bit like a jet engine. And I believe in the marketing material, they even mentioned that they somehow innovated or were inspired by jet-engine technology to be able to make a device that small with enough power to still inflate a ground pad.

I lost the link and the thread, and I've been trying to find it again for years. Anyone remember what I'm talking about or know the gadget?

Rick Adams
(rickadams100) - M
camptek on 04/17/2014 11:43:00 MDT Print View

it may have been camptek, the product is also now sold be thermarest for the neo. it won't fit the exped valve but retrofiting a tr replacement valve is really easy.

Sharon Bingham
(cowboisgirl) - F - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Thoughts on the Camp-Tek Microburst? on 04/17/2014 11:46:32 MDT Print View

Yes! That is it exactly!!! Thank you SO much!

The picture on their website looks like it will still work for my Downmats. I'd have to check. But my mats are circa 2006-2007, so they have the external nozzles (one on each side).

Anyone have experience with these? Like them, don't?

Rick Adams
(rickadams100) - M
downmat valves on 04/17/2014 12:01:54 MDT Print View

I only have experience with exped flat valves, they are ok but the filling methods are not great in my view.

I have used the camptek on neos, my modified exped ul, and poe thermo 6. I won't own an air pad that this won't fit or be made to fit. Lithium batteries last a long time in it too.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
The lost "jet engine" ground pad inflator? on 04/17/2014 16:20:03 MDT Print View

You could look at the Instaflator.
No batteries, i cut about 1/3rd off mine , takes 2-3 loads for a 7cm mat.
(I only use it at home...)
http://flyweightdesigns.com/?product=the-instaflator

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Thoughts on the Camp-Tek Microburst? on 04/17/2014 19:17:50 MDT Print View

Great little device. Unlike the instaflator you can do something else while your pad is blowing up. Also better if raining, since you can't be in the tent with an instaflator as easily.

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
TAR vs Camptek on 04/18/2014 06:45:14 MDT Print View

Has anyone tried the TAR model? It looks exactly the same as the Camptek version, but it can be had for $31 on Amazon.

I will likely pick one or the other up sometime. I figure it would be of some assistance to wood fires, and like Ken says, it's easier to use inside a shelter. I also have an instaflator and it does the job, but these battery powered ones seem like a nice option...

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: TAR vs Camptek on 04/18/2014 06:52:32 MDT Print View

They are the same. Just that TAR had them rebranded for themselves to sell.

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
Re: Re: TAR vs Camptek on 04/18/2014 09:22:09 MDT Print View

Thats what I figured... thanks.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife
Re: Re: Thoughts on the Camp-Tek Microburst? on 04/18/2014 11:30:44 MDT Print View

Flipping LOVE my Microburst!!

I have a TaR XTherm, size large, that is just a monster to inflate... the Microburst is a MUST have for these large four-season pads!

The Microburst will inflate the XTherm Large about 85% of the way, so I still (sadly) have to breath in three or four breaths (suppose I could use the stuff sack inflator that comes with it) but three or four breaths of moisture going into the XTherm is a hell of a lot better than 30 or 40 breaths.

Soooo totally worth the weight of it - and be sure to use Energizer Advanced Lithium batteries for the winter season!

Sharon Bingham
(cowboisgirl) - F - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Microburst: The lost "jet engine" ground pad inflator? on 04/18/2014 13:23:02 MDT Print View

Thanks, folks! I'm going to get one. I figure, I'd probably still pack my pillow inflator as a back up for dead batteries in the Microburst, and for the fact that I like to use it to place between my knees (side sleeper with boney knees). So if it wouldn't fully inflate the Downmat, I'd be very pleased for it to just get it most of the way there, and then use the pillow to top it off...

Somewhat unrelatedly, I contacted Exped yesterday to ask what the best way to repair my Downmats would be - e.g., did they have a repair department that would do it, etc. 2 of the pads nozzles have fallen out, and 1 or 2 of my others seem to have slow leaks. "Sure," they said. "Send them to us. That's your only expense - we cover the cost of the repairs and of shipping them back to you." BONUS! Super excited, since I was thinking I'd have to figure out how to repair them myself...

Fred Eoff
(fredeoff) - F - M

Locale: Northwest
Camp Tek Microburst on 04/18/2014 13:55:05 MDT Print View

On those trips where I know I can't hang and need my NeoAir, the Microburst is definitely in my pack. Pretty cool and reliable little device.

Edited by fredeoff on 04/18/2014 13:56:01 MDT.

Larry De La Briandais
(Hitech) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Microburst on 04/19/2014 18:22:15 MDT Print View

I also love mine. When I first used it I thought it was taking way to long to fill my BA IAC. I didn't remember it taking that long at home and was concerned that the altitude was affecting it (I was at 8k feet or so). I finally realized that I had the wide BA IAC with me! I need to get that back to the buddy I borrowed it from for car camping once. Don't want to make that mistake again! And it did fill it up just fine, but certainly took longer. ;)

Glenn S
(Glenn64) - M

Locale: Snowhere, MN
Re: Camp Tek Microburst on 04/19/2014 19:13:42 MDT Print View

Won't work for the Exped, but for pads with nozzles, like the TAR's, I'll just use my pack liner, like I proposed over here.

Sharon Bingham
(cowboisgirl) - F - MLife

Locale: Southwest
Microburst with older Downmats (external nozzle) on 05/29/2014 12:00:27 MDT Print View

Just wanted to follow up and let people know that my Microburst arrived, and it DOES work with my older Downmats. There is a flexible "rubbery" piece that pulls out (presumably to attach the other fit-pieces so that it can adapt to various styles of inflation valves), and that little rubbery piece will fit over the nozzle just fine and inflate the pad.

I am not able to get it to inflate it to "firm", so I do finish off with my pillow pump. But I typically have that with me anyway to use as a pillow. Saves a lot of time and labor. Overall, I'm super, super happy with my purchase.

Thanks again for helping me find this thing!

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Instaflator? You mean, your mouth? on 05/29/2014 16:33:35 MDT Print View

1. I've never heard a report of anyone getting mold or mildew in their Thermarest pads from breaths, if the pads were stored with the valve open. Have you?

2. The idea that an "Ultralighter" needs a large-wide pad is pretty funny to me, BUT, I will concede that some people need them to sleep and enjoy the woods. The idea that you NEED a battery-powered brick in your bag to inflate it? now THAT's amusing.

You guys are gonna become what you loathe if you're not careful...

uwagflawygfuwagf

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Instaflator? You mean, your mouth? on 05/29/2014 16:59:35 MDT Print View

Max,

You're alright!

Sara C
(Jon) - M

Locale: SE Missouri and NW Arkansas
Re: Instaflator? You mean, your mouth? on 05/30/2014 07:18:52 MDT Print View

>> I've never heard a report of anyone getting mold or mildew in their Thermarest pads >> from breaths, if the pads were stored with the valve open. Have you?

Yes. My husband had an older version of the Prolite 4 that was light orange so it was easy to see the black stuff inside. It was always stored flat with the valve open.

Derrick White
(miku) - MLife

Locale: Newfoundland & Labrador, Canada
Deflator Please! on 05/30/2014 07:44:19 MDT Print View

My schnozzle works just fine for inflation. Its the deflation that drives me crazy every morning. I looked around for a deflator, but found nothing. Apparently it is not as simple and reversing an inflator. I continue to seek. Edit: Mat is Exped UL DownMat

Derrick

Edited by miku on 05/30/2014 10:17:47 MDT.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Deflator Please! on 05/30/2014 08:51:39 MDT Print View

I'm a big, fat boy. I'm my own deflator!