What is your two item first aid kit?
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Charles G.
(Rincon) - M

Locale: Desert Southwest
Two item first aid kit? on 02/28/2014 06:23:41 MST Print View

I consider this idea (only two items) to fall into the "stupid light" category.

+1

Andy F
(AndyF) - M

Locale: Midwest/Midatlantic
Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 02/28/2014 11:01:19 MST Print View

nm

Edited by AndyF on 02/28/2014 11:08:18 MST.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Two item first aid kit? on 02/28/2014 11:08:01 MST Print View

My youngest son has a 2 item first aid kit:

Double epi-pen
Bottle of Benadryl

Never go anywhere without it.

I carry a backup double set of the Epi-Pen......

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Two item first aid kit? on 02/28/2014 11:31:31 MST Print View

Double epi-pen
Bottle of Benadryl

+1. I need to carry one when I'm out with my nephew. We had them in our combat lifesaver bag in the Army where it was a single syringe that had two doses (administer dose two by turning plunger 1/4 turn) but his is an auto injector. I'm guessing that's how they all are now?

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
1st 2 items in my kit on 03/01/2014 14:17:36 MST Print View

Speaking as a Ski Patroller...

1. TRAINING

2. ADVANCED TRAINING

Most of the materials can be improvised.

Edited by Danepacker on 03/01/2014 14:20:25 MST.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Getting creative. on 03/01/2014 17:45:09 MST Print View

>"Bottle of Benadryl"

I've pondered the adsorption rate of Benadryl if it were snorted. Say, someone known to be allergic to bees gets stung, and you don't have an epi-pen, so the sooner you get the Benadryl on-board, the better. Open up a capsule or finely crush a pill and do what the illicit drug users do for the same reason - so it is in your bloodstream as soon as possible.

My wife knew another doc who was on a plane with a convulsing child. (1) all planes are flying pharmacies, if you think to ask the other passengers, (2) there's no shortage of anti-anxiety drugs on a plane, and (3) consider alternative administration routes. He had the flight attendant ask for it, got an overwhelming response, crushed it, mixed it in a pat of butter and administered it as a suppository. It worked.

Mike W
(skopeo) - F

Locale: British Columbia
What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/02/2014 00:49:53 MST Print View

>> mixed it in a pat of butter and administered it as a suppository <<

OK, add latex gloves back into my top two...

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: 1st 2 items in my kit on 03/02/2014 02:05:12 MST Print View

Roughly as Eric said:

1. TRAINING
2. Thinking

I find Band-Aids and 3M Micropore tape can handle most injuries, WITH a bit of improvisation.

Cheers

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/02/2014 08:33:58 MST Print View

Dale...
I love that coflex tape, but be really careful about checking it before every trip. I bought some to use in my dogs FAK (it's excellent for hairy limbs and all...), but the one time I did need it for him (he ripped a pad on a riverbed) I pulled it out of the ziploc and the roll was one single lump of goo. It was not even a season old. But the compression and the heat and whatnot just mooshed it together into a single glob and it was useless.

So I stopped carrying it and moved on to other wraps for him. And for me.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/02/2014 08:37:17 MST Print View

A podcast from a few years ago listed the top 5 choices. A NOLS instructor listed these.

1. gloves
2. tape
3. pain reliever
4. irrigation syringe (10 cc needle nose)
5. wound cover to keep wound moist (tegaderm or antibiotic ointment/cover)

Edited by jshann on 03/02/2014 08:39:09 MST.

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/02/2014 10:35:22 MST Print View

I like Lueko tape and the 2nd would be a safety pin.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: Epi on 03/02/2014 16:52:40 MST Print View

Ian,

Yep, they are auto now. You take off the cap, hold it to the thigh and push down, hopefully for 10 seconds. I was shaking so bad the first time I had to do it. The effects are scary - in how fast they can breathe. Best, is you can do it through clothing as well.

As for the Benadryl? I carry liquid (yeah, reeeaaallll UL I know) with both a cup and syringe style doser. I can stick the syringe in his mouth, tilt him back and force it into him. Pills take too long :-(

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/02/2014 16:59:29 MST Print View

This works for me...

William Segraves
(sbill9000) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/02/2014 18:32:14 MST Print View

"The tape and PLB suggestion was half joke, half serious. If you're back in remote terrain, the probability of something between minor booboo (tape your ankle and walk on out) and call in the troops (appendicitis) isn't all that high."

+1 to Dave's and similar sentiments with heading out from non-remote terrain for anything serious. With very few exceptions, if it needs serious medical supplies, people should just be getting out, and knowledge plus good tape will be what's needed to do so.

+1 also to those who ID this as a useful intellectual exercise.

I found many of the answers interesting, and they highlighted more than anything else how important it is to understand individual medical conditions and needs. People with severe allergies and other conditions that might put them in a position of needing some type of medication absolutely must have those meds. People who don't could probably expect to go a long, long time without really needing anything other than some tape. In the real world, most of what's in my FAK is for taking care of minor booboos that can be the difference between a fun trip and a miserable and/or aborted trip.

Do I get to choose a different #2 for different trips? If there are ticks, I choose good tweezers. Nothing else is in the running. If no ticks, it's a lot harder.

With apologies for a little attempted hijacking, maybe a related interesting question is "what would you add for one ounce more than your tape supply?"

Cheers,

Bill S.

Bob Shaver
(rshaver) - F

Locale: West
antibiotics on 03/02/2014 21:11:49 MST Print View

This is just my situation, but a round of antiboitics is mandatory for me. If I get a blister and it gets infected, I'm screwed. I have diabetes, so low circulation in the feet is a problem. I could hike out wearing keen's, if the boot was causing the blister.

If you don't count sun glasses, clothes, sun bloc, sun glasses, bug juice, head net, a knife, as first aid gear, then after the antibiotics I'd take duct tape. I could make sterile dressing from a boiled t shirt, plus use it for splinting or as a band aid. #3 might be band aids.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: What is your two item first aid kit? on 03/05/2014 14:47:59 MST Print View

This my FAK for the past few years

FAK

Top is the back side showing the Leukotape on peelable backing. The rest is a piece of gauze, 5 Advils, one antiseptic package, and a few bandaids.

In the past 10 years or so I have only used two items.

A band aid to patch a fellow hiker who was attacked by a Yucca, the point piercing a small vein and a few Advils to help me sleep when I suffer a soft tissue injury, which has included a twisted knee, impact injury on a sharp rock to the ball of my foot, and an ankle sprain. So I guess those are my first two items.

michael levi
(M.L) - F

Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
aid on 03/05/2014 15:11:09 MST Print View

My kit has band aids, moleskin, cuben tape, mini bic, one immodium, 4 water tablets, alc wipes. The whole thing weighs 1.2oz and is nice to have.

I mostly use the alc wipes to clean blisters then bandaids or moleskin to cover them up.