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Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 07:01:55 MST Print View

Companion forum thread to:

Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 08:18:10 MST Print View

Nice detail

You could use wax, like parafin, and do the same thing, less messy when cold.

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
Re: Re: Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 08:29:29 MST Print View

altoid tin can - nice, but this is BPL right? the tin has weight and is not leak proof.

some use a ziplock baggie with the air squeezed out.
other use the 35mm ancient roll of film cannisters.
And then the classic paperclip to shove a cotton ball in a Boba drinking straw, the seal the straw ends.


I prefer to use olive oil or bacon grease mixed with a used dried tea bag, then heat reseal the entire cocktail in the tea bag foil wax package.


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Edited by RogerDodger on 02/12/2014 08:41:31 MST.

Daniel Smart
(smartd) - M
Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 08:55:59 MST Print View

On a Survivorman forum, Les suggested using duck tape as a fire starter. Double use. Great idea.

-=Dan=-

Paul Mountford
(Sparticus) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic Canada
Re: Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 08:56:32 MST Print View

I find cotton pads work even better (the kind used to remove makeup). If you grab the edge, you can put them apart. You then apply the Vaseline to exposed inside and then push them back together. Fluff the surface before lighting and the take a spark very easily. The advantage of the cotton pad / Vaseline “Wagon Wheel” is that they make much less of a mess as compared with normal cotton balls soaked in Vaseline.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 09:42:57 MST Print View

NM.

Edited by xnomanx on 02/12/2014 12:05:12 MST.

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
(Sigh) Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 10:29:37 MST Print View

Wow. Really? Vaseline cotton balls? What's the next article going to be? Wrapping our Nalgene bottles with Duct Tape or Dutch oven cooking on thru-hikes? Somebody phoned this one in....

Edited by bigfoot2 on 02/12/2014 10:35:21 MST.

Sam Haraldson
(sharalds) - MLife

Locale: Gallatin Range
Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 10:35:27 MST Print View

Yeah, I agree, Craig. That whole putting things into a backpack and going for a hike in the woods idea is just so stale and old yet BPL writes articles about it every week and people post in the forums about it everyday. When are they going to come up with something new? *wink wink* *har har*

Yes, the Vaseline soaked cotton ball is an age old technique but it's one that has saved my freezing cold and wet tuchus many, many times when I've needed to light a fire with frozen and hardly-working fingers. I'd say it's a lesson well worth teaching to those who may not know it and as a good reminder to those who may be rusty on the subject.

Douglas Frick
(Otter) - MLife

Locale: Wyoming
Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 10:40:16 MST Print View

Nice, thanks. And good video. Most of the boy scouts use dryer lint, but I'll show them your video and suggest they try this as well. (I keep Coghlan's Tinder in my kit; it's a cotton/wax product.)

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 10:42:54 MST Print View

Sam,
I agree that it's good advice for new hikers, but seriously...we paid to read this article? It should/could have been just a post, not an article. Nothing wrong with it, just that it's old news and not deserving of anything more than a blip once a year in the Philosophy & Technique or MYOG sections. Maybe I just expect too much.

Just my opinion.

M

Edited by bigfoot2 on 02/12/2014 10:46:45 MST.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
best container on 02/12/2014 10:47:59 MST Print View

The best container I've found for vaseline cotton balls is a pill bottle or an old film canister. You can really shove them down into a hard sided container and fit a bunch of them.

Zane Dargaty
(zdkayaker) - MLife
Add some sawdust on 02/12/2014 10:51:55 MST Print View

I take the vaseline-soaked balls and roll them in sawdust. I makes them less sticky to handle and gives them a little longer burn time.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 11:09:03 MST Print View

I pack Tinder Quick tabs into an aluminum "spy capsule" and that goes on a lanyard with my firesteel.

+1 on a pill bottle or film can for PJCB's.

Other fire starting aids: Esbit fuel tabs and alcohol jel hand cleaner. A dab of hand cleaner takes the barest spark to light. The ultimate is a road flare or the shorter Orion fire starting flare--- best for emergencies rather than regular use.

John Harper
(johnnyh88) - M

Locale: The SouthWest
Re: Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 11:21:00 MST Print View

Any experience on how these compare to Esbit tabs? Half an Esbit tab burns for several minutes and is what I have always used.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F - M
Ballz on 02/12/2014 11:33:09 MST Print View

Two points

- you can heat up the vaseline in the microwave ... Its easier and safer

- dont soak the entire ball ... Youll need to leave some fluff for it to catch a spark if yr using a firesteel

As to the "BPLness" of the article ... a test of various fire starters under conditions with different ignition methods would be ideal

And reflect the scientific approach of BPL

;)

Pat Comer
(WPComer) - MLife

Locale: Aborokas
add magnesium filings on 02/12/2014 11:43:39 MST Print View

does anyone but me roll theirs in magnesium filings ?

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Vaseline-soaked Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 12:44:23 MST Print View

"Any experience on how these compare to Esbit tabs? Half an Esbit tab burns for several minutes and is what I have always used."

I think they're fairly comparable. It's been over a year but the burn time for a p-ball for me was about nine minutes.

I once made the mistake of heating some water with a p-ball. Huge mistake and won't be doing that again. Took a lot of elbow grease to get the residue off of my ti pot.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Cotton Balls on 02/12/2014 12:51:36 MST Print View

I make some small cotton balls, smaller than a dime, and soak them with candle wax. Then I wind a bit of dry cotton around the outside to make it easier to catch a spark.

--B.G.--

Mole J
(MoleJ) - F

Locale: UK
balls v esbit on 02/12/2014 12:55:57 MST Print View

I have used vaseline/cotton balls many times. Even if well soaked in vaseline they can easily light with a spark if teased out. A moderately soaked ball will burn for 3-4 minutes.

Does esbit light with a spark?? (I have enough trouble getting it going with a lighter!)

Edited by MoleJ on 02/12/2014 12:56:29 MST.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Esbit on 02/12/2014 12:56:48 MST Print View

Esbit works very good. I use PJ cotton balls as my everyday fire starter and use an esbit if I really need to get the fire going quickly in wet weather.