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Stephen Parks
(sdparks) - M

Locale: Southwest
Re: Re: Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/09/2014 09:38:06 MST Print View

Rafi,

The Cocoon hood pillow surface is slightly concave. It is right at 4" in the middle and 4.5" on the sides. That's fully inflated and unloaded.

-Stephen

Edited by sdparks on 02/09/2014 09:38:56 MST.

L. T.
(Guinness1759) - F
Big Agnes Aircore on 02/09/2014 19:08:55 MST Print View

I also need some loft as a side-sleeper. What works for me is to use the BA Aircore pillow. I had a flannel pillowcase made for it but also have used a BUFF as a pillowcase. The loft is obtained by folding the pillow in half and blowing it up in the pillow case. I tried the EXped and Cocoon but wound up going back to the BA.
Cheers...

Rafi Harzahav
(rhz10) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
any experiences with the Cocoon Ultralight AirCore Pillow? on 02/09/2014 19:09:49 MST Print View

I went into REI and saw this:

http://www.rei.com/product/850185/cocoon-ultralight-aircore-pillow

It was higher than most other pillows. At 5.8oz not really ultralight, but not terrible. Any field data on this one?

Larry De La Briandais
(Hitech) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Re: any experiences with the Cocoon Ultralight AirCore Pillow? on 02/10/2014 08:39:25 MST Print View

That's what I have. Too small.

EDIT: Sorry, I have the hyperlite.

Edited by Hitech on 02/10/2014 11:42:08 MST.

Rafi Harzahav
(rhz10) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Re: Re: any experiences with the Cocoon Ultralight AirCore Pillow? on 02/10/2014 09:58:58 MST Print View

Interesting... at 15X19 I thought it was OK. I guess it boils down to personal preferences in the end.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/10/2014 10:39:57 MST Print View

I use the Cocoon Hyperlight, with a fleece sleeve/tube covering most of it and deflated just a bit. I'm also a side-sleeper. This has worked for me, although with any pillow I've used (stuff sack with clothes in it, Exped pillow) I still wake up sometimes and have to adjust the pillow or fleece.

http://www.rei.com/product/799192/cocoon-hyperlite-pillow

This was the fleece pillow case I bought at REI, but it was too small in length to fit the Cocoon pillow, so I cut the ends off to make a sleeve. I'd be cheaper and fairly easy to sew a simple one from fleece scraps.

http://travelitepillows.com/pillow-cases/polartec-reg-velour-fleece/fleece-pillow-case-small-black.html

Ian Destroyer of Forums
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/10/2014 13:18:26 MST Print View

My system is I combine the Exped UL Large Pillow with a Monkey Pillowcase from Hike, Bike, Dale (BPL member). The pillow is enough for a good night's sleep but I stuff my down sweater into the pillowcase too which makes for a luxurious backcountry pillow. Nice thing is it's a super convenient way to access my down sweater if I get too cold at night.

J P
(jpovs) - F - M

Locale: North Shore
Re: My perfect pillow!! on 02/11/2014 05:47:03 MST Print View

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Edited by jpovs on 06/15/2014 14:02:42 MDT.

Rafi Harzahav
(rhz10) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Update--flexair pillow test on 02/14/2014 09:17:30 MST Print View

Hi,

Well I ordered the flexair pillow (size large). It was cheap, and I thought it was worth an experiment. On the plus side, this pillow has great height--more than six inches when fully inflated. It wasn't particularly comfortable with my head easily wobbling back and forth on it. However, the real problem was that after inflating it and deflating it over a couple of days, it developed a leak. Others have had similar experiences. It is a disposable pillow, but doesn't seem reliable enough.

My search continues...

Stephen Meyer
(Sliderule) - M

Locale: Northeast Ohio
Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/15/2014 20:27:41 MST Print View

I use one of those horseshoe shaped travel pillows. They seem much firmer. The one I use is comes in at just over 7 oz. Sometimes I'll bring an REI backpacking pillow (~10 oz) along also (I do like my creature comforts).

Glenn S
(Glenn64) - M

Locale: Snowhere, MN
Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/16/2014 00:58:22 MST Print View

I need help in this area too. I hibernate all winter, but I have a couple ideas for this spring. I picked up a GG Murmur on sale last month, and the minimalist in me wants to just wrap the SitLight pad around my SmartWater bottle and secure it with the shock cord I'd otherwise strip off the pack. The more gadgety side of me likes the comfort of using a 12x20 OpSack as a drybag/laundrybag for my clothes, and fitting it in an old Thermarest fleece pillow case I've never had enough clothes to fill up. Both are high enough loft, one is only grams in weight penalty, the other about 3 ounces. I've slept on both at home. The water bottle/sitlight works, but the OpSack/Fleece cover was actually pretty dreamy.

Edited by Glenn64 on 02/16/2014 01:31:59 MST.

spelt the enigmatic
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
Re: Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/16/2014 11:04:47 MST Print View

So, I actually didn't like the Exped. I know it's highly regarded but I think air pillows in general are not for me. It also seems like multi-part solutions such as combining pillows and adding jackets and whatnot are a lot of fuss, but ymmv.

Currently, I'm using the cocoon travel pillowcase with a hunk of 2" thick open cell foam inside. I double it over for about 4" of height. Roughly 3.5 oz, or half what my Thermarest pillow weighs. I'd like it to be a little thicker and might get some 1" foam to add to it. I've also considered using a carved piece of closed cell foam, but then you have a volume issue.

Occasionally I'll use my pack as a pillow and this seems to work as well as anything else. Kinda lumpy but plenty of height.

Brian Reyman
(breyman) - M

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Montbell Pillow on 02/18/2014 21:38:54 MST Print View

I'm a side sleeper and also need a pillow with lots of loft. I've gone through half a dozen purchases, tries and returns. My favorite and current pillow is Montbell's.

http://montbell.us/products/disp.php?p_id=1124290

2.4 oz and while the fabric suffers the same of all inflatables (not terribly soft), it's easy to add a small cover and this is by far the thickest one I've found that still has a decent size and shape.

As a note, while it's listed as only 3.9 inches thick (vs Exped's listed 4.9 inches), it is the same thickness throughout (as opposed to Exped only being that thickness at its widest point) and feels thicker/better side-by-side with the Exped large size.

Edited by breyman on 02/18/2014 21:41:29 MST.

John S.
(jshann) - F
Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/19/2014 17:06:34 MST Print View

Not sure if this pillow has been mentioned in some time.
http://luxurylite.com/pillowindex.html

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Another pillow thread--high loft pillows for side sleepers on 02/19/2014 18:49:48 MST Print View

Like the rest of you, I've looked high and low (and most places in between) for a pillow for my side-sleeping bad self. And what I found most comfortable wasn't a pillow at all, but works wonderfully as one. I've never liked air pillows because I like a little give to the pillow, and the down pillows were useless because they flattened out so much, so quickly.

On a whim, I laid on the floor and put a small Escape Pod cooler under my head. Wow. Just enough give, high enough, and actually pretty darn comfortable. 2.4 oz. I could use it without a pillowcase, but I'm sure a nice fleecy pillowcase would feel great too. And since I can use it to pack stuff inside it while it's in my pack, it serves a second purpose as well.

I know, a bit out there. But it works for me, and works very well.