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Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
Re: Hatfield on 01/31/2014 10:21:38 MST Print View

James,
That's very cool SoCal history. It's very interesting.
rainmaker --> massive floods.
becareful what you ask for. :)

something else of interest, along those lines of rain making:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

Edited by RogerDodger on 01/31/2014 10:25:19 MST.

Amy Lauterbach
(drongobird) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/10/2014 13:45:34 MST Print View

Four or five more storms like the one this past week and we'll be in fat city! Southern Sierra is now at 26% of normal Feb 10 snowpack.

Mt Tamalpais, in Marin County got 23.51" of rain in the past five days. Woohoo!!

Dr Jeff Masters has a quick summary in today's WunderBlog post.

snow-3

Paul McLaughlin
(paul) - MLife
Re: CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/11/2014 23:21:09 MST Print View

Snowfall in the Sierra was best in the tahoe-to-sonora section, and dropped off quickly south of that. So Desolation Carson-iceberg, Mokelumne, and Emeigrant wilderness areas did well and anything south not so much. Still quite skimpy compared to average.

Jon Leibowitz
(jleeb) - F - MLife

Locale: 4Corners
New Article on the issue on 02/18/2014 11:17:07 MST Print View

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/can-anybody-save-california-103544.html#.UwOia2JdUkI

and a new satellite image.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=83124&eocn=home&eoci=iotd_grid

Edited by jleeb on 02/18/2014 15:28:56 MST.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: New Article on the issue on 02/18/2014 18:02:41 MST Print View

"and a new satellite image."

Darn! It looks like the entire Great Western Divide is bare. Now THAT is depressing.

Troubled times......

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: New Article on the issue on 02/18/2014 18:09:24 MST Print View

If the Great Western Divide is bare, that will just make it easier on Milly's Foot Pass.

--B.G.--

. Kirby
(Kirby805) - F
Re: CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/26/2014 17:54:34 MST Print View

Rain and snow! woot

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/26/2014 20:52:36 MST Print View

Here in So. Cal. there's wet stuff falling from the sky!

My grandfather told me about how it used to do this when he was a kid but I never believed him.

I took my children out front to stand in it.

"Remember this day kids, this here is something special." says I.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/26/2014 22:12:31 MST Print View

A bunch of us were hiking in the dark here on Wednesday evening. We kept walking through deep rain puddles, but nobody wanted to complain about the water. We needed it.

--B.G.--

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Re: CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/27/2014 00:13:13 MST Print View

This afternoon was the first time this winter where we got a nice hard rain pater on the roof, and I found it very relaxing. I realized that that is the usual effect it has on me in late December when the rain (usually) first starts. By the end of February I pretty much want it to stop before I go insane. Just shows how weird a year this has been.

Amy Lauterbach
(drongobird) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/27/2014 08:37:47 MST Print View

I'm setting my sights on reaching 50% of normal snowpack before this wet season is over.
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/snowapp/swcchart.action

Percentage of average snowpack for given date date:

Northern California
Feb 26 - 10%
Feb 27 - 13%
Feb 28 - 14%
Mar 5 - 22%
Mar 10 - 20%

Central California
Feb 26 - 25%
Feb 27 - 28%
Feb 28 - 29%
Mar 5 - 39%
Mar 10 - 35%

Southern California
Feb 26 - 17%
Feb 27 - 20%
Feb 28 - 22%
Mar 5 - 36%
Mar 10 - 34%

This storm should last 3 or 4 more days, just like the good old days of Craig's Grandfather

[edited Mar 5 to add more data]

Edited by drongobird on 03/10/2014 08:32:59 MDT.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 02/27/2014 09:01:41 MST Print View

Some run off from the last storm a few weeks ago, per the raised water level in the creek running thru my property on the Plumas. With the thawed out ground now due to the warm weather, hopefully most of the rain will soak in.
Duane

Frank T
(random_walk)
*Fingers crossed* on 02/27/2014 09:20:28 MST Print View

Statement as of 3:32 AM PST on February 27, 2014

... Winter Storm Warning in effect from 1 am to 10 PM PST Friday...

* Snow accumulations friday: 4 to 8 inches below 7000 feet... 12 to
20 inches above 7000 feet... and up to 24 inches along the Sierra
crest.

Nico .
(NickB) - MLife

Locale: Los Padres National Forest
CA Drought and 2014 Hiking Season on 02/27/2014 09:57:13 MST Print View

Yesterday's storm gave us our first rainfall of any significance here on the Santa Barbara south coast. We got about 1.5- 2" overnight. That brings our seasonal rainfall total up to 2.5" which is about 15% of normal.

Parts of the SB/Ventura backcountry faired a little better, with some of the remote weather stations checking in with 2.5- 3" or more. The deep backcountry (Cuyama area, Mt Pinos, etc.) must've been in the rain shadow as these areas were mostly back down in the 0.5" range.

Data for all of the rain gauges can be found HERE. Click on a station to get the station name and various rainfall summary statistics (e.g., 12- hour, 24- hour, month, season, etc.).

The next round is supposed to move in tonight for us and linger through Saturday. Expecting a few inches along the coast with this next system, possibly up to 8" in the southern Los Padres backcountry. Hopefully that's enough to start to bring our local creeks back to life.

Amy Lauterbach
(drongobird) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 03/10/2014 08:42:36 MDT Print View

And the 14 day forecast on Wunderground is for a chance of up to an inch of snow today followed by many days of sunny warm weather, with temps well above normal. Doesn't look good at all. We'll be lucky to be at 1/3rd of normal snowpack on April 1st (which is the average date of max snowpack).

http://weatherspark.com/#!dashboard;a=USA/CA/Truckee
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=zmw:93262.1.99999
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/snowapp/swcchart.action


Snowpack Percent of normal for this date:

Northern California
Feb 26 - 10%
Feb 27 - 13%
Feb 28 - 14%
Mar 5 - 22%
Mar 10 - 20%
Mar 17 - 17%
Mar 22 - 15%
Mar 30 - 19%
Apr 3 - 25%
Apr 8 - 25%

Central California
Feb 26 - 25%
Feb 27 - 28%
Feb 28 - 29%
Mar 5 - 39%
Mar 10 - 35%
Mar 17 - 33%
Mar 22 - 30%
Mar 30 - 35%
Apr 3 - 39%
Apr 8 - 40%

Southern California
Feb 26 - 17%
Feb 27 - 20%
Feb 28 - 22%
Mar 5 - 36%
Mar 10 - 34%
Mar 17 - 30%
Mar 22 - 26%
Mar 30 - 28%
Apr 3 - 33%
Apr 8 - 31%

Edited by drongobird on 04/08/2014 13:38:27 MDT.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 04/01/2014 11:14:20 MDT Print View

"And the 14 day forecast on Wunderground is for a chance of up to an inch of snow today followed by many days of sunny warm weather, with temps well above normal. Doesn't look good at all. We'll be lucky to be at 1/3rd of normal snowpack on April 1st (which is the average date of max snowpack)."

Looks like you called it:CA snowpack April 1

23-38% of typical snowpack for this date.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 04/01/2014 11:50:06 MDT Print View

Now we have to translate the snowpack into what that means for early-season trails.

--B.G.--

M B
(livingontheroad) - M
snow on 04/01/2014 19:39:16 MDT Print View

one of the fellows that actually takes snow measurements in the Sierra posts on JMT facebook. He measured a couple of southern Sierra locations at 50-60% of normal last week. The average is just that, an average, it will be closer to normal in some places, and less in others.

Its still remarkably low however overall.

Edited by livingontheroad on 04/01/2014 19:39:59 MDT.

Paul McLaughlin
(paul) - MLife
Re: snow on 04/01/2014 21:43:38 MDT Print View

I've been watching both the sensors and the manual measurements pretty closely as they get posted,(backcountry ski trip planning) and there is a clear trend toward higher percentages at higher altitudes. Anything low,by which I mean under 7000 feet in the northern (tahoe-yosemite) sierra and under maybe 8500-9000 feet around Whitney, is like 10-20% of average while higher elevations are 40, 50, even 60%. so we may have an oddball early summer with things clearing out fast lower down and then you'll hit a sudden increase in snow as you get higher. But the odds are pretty good that it will be an early melt-off overall, even though the long-range forecasts I've seen are showing some snow still to come in mid-april, which will at least slow down the melt if not build the snowpack.

Amy Lauterbach
(drongobird) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
updated summary from Wunderground on the CA drought on 04/03/2014 15:55:48 MDT Print View

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=261