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(RogerDodger) - F

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... on 01/20/2014 11:01:05 MST Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 07/06/2015 10:06:31 MDT.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
CA Drought and 2014 hiking season on 01/20/2014 11:21:38 MST Print View

I thought you were going to have a shuttle propelled by the ocean to get folks to the top. Like a ram pump that works off of slight fall in water to create pressure.
Duane

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Cliff Mass post on 01/21/2014 10:58:55 MST Print View

Here's hoping for a "March miracle" again....this is dire

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: dry California forest on 01/21/2014 12:54:21 MST Print View

"not as bad as a blazing fire with roasted owls, deer and squirrels."

Tell me more. Do you have a recipe for roasted owl?

--B.G.--

Brian Johns
(bcutlerj)

Locale: NorCal
Nasa's Take on Dry California on 01/21/2014 21:52:16 MST Print View

Snow pack 2013 compared to snowpack 2014. Pretty unbelievable - unless you've been living here.

NasaOnSnow

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Nasa's Take on Dry California on 01/21/2014 22:27:52 MST Print View

Didn't we just see this a week ago in this thread?

--B.G.--

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: Santa Rosa, CA
Re: Re: Nasa's Take on Dry California on 01/21/2014 22:33:35 MST Print View

We saw it on the other page which might as well be a separate thread.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: dry California forest on 01/22/2014 02:23:19 MST Print View

> I have a solution.
> Dig a pipeline trench from the ocean up to the mountain ridges. With the design of
> hydrolic'ing, start with a 4 ft diameter pipe at sea level, and keep going smaller
> till it gets to be a garden hose at altitude. This eliminates the need for an uphill
> pump.

Congratulations. You have just invented the Perpetual Energy Machine. Pity the Patent Office will reject it without further consideration.

Cheers

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: dry California forest on 01/22/2014 06:41:28 MST Print View

Doger: "The motion of the ocean will jet the pressure uphill to fill with sea water a plastic reservoir carefully hidden from disturbing a panorama."

Caffin: "Congratulations. You have just invented the Perpetual Energy Machine."


Wiki: Hydraulic Ram Pump

I'm not sure that Doger's idea is sound (friction and all that), but pretty sure hydraulic ram and wave motion pumps are real.

Edited by greg23 on 01/22/2014 08:34:11 MST.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Re: dry California forest on 01/22/2014 11:06:53 MST Print View

I've been wanting to do that on my property for years, but don't think I have enough fall across my acre. They can only do so much lift. I'll have to opt for a solar pump to pump water into a tank, to be released on the weekends to water the garden.
Duane

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(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: (...)
... on 01/22/2014 11:25:57 MST Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 07/06/2015 10:09:00 MDT.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: dry California forest on 01/22/2014 11:33:21 MST Print View

IIR, 40' or 50' is about all a ram pump can lift.

So you may be about 7,950' short....

Edited by greg23 on 01/22/2014 11:34:50 MST.

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(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: (...)
... on 01/22/2014 11:54:31 MST Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 07/02/2015 11:22:18 MDT.

James Reilly
(zippymorocco) - M

Locale: Montana
Closures on 01/22/2014 13:18:12 MST Print View

I'm starting April 18. I am curious if there are ever preemptive closures? Or are there just fire/stove bans?

It's crazy, I was hoping for low snow pack and never thought of the negative impact that has on the state.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Re: Re: dry California forest on 01/22/2014 14:02:32 MST Print View

Hi Greg and Rodger and all

Yes, I know about hydraulic ram pumps, but the initial claim was 'This eliminates the need for an uphill pump'. A 'hydraulic ram pump' is still a pump.

Would a hydraulic ram pump get up far enough? Unlikely. 8000' of water pressure (to the top of the ranges) is about 3,600 psi. That's static: not counting friction.

Cheers

Brian Crain
(brcrain) - F

Locale: So Cal
Re: Closures on 01/22/2014 17:13:38 MST Print View

"It's crazy, I was hoping for low snow pack and never thought of the negative impact that has on the state."

Thanks James. At least we know who to blame now! ;)

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Closures on 01/22/2014 20:19:48 MST Print View

Some parks in California (like Mt Diablo) will shut down completely during extreme fire danger.

Parts of the PCT are still closed from recent fires (e.g. near Mt San Jacinto).

Best to check with PCTA for the latest news and trail closure forecasts.

-- Rex

Edited by Rex on 01/22/2014 20:20:23 MST.

Amy Lauterbach
(drongobird) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
CA Snowpack still anemic on 01/31/2014 09:25:55 MST Print View

We finally had some precipitation here in California, but not enough to make much dent. And although the 10 day forecast includes some more dribs and drabs, there are no real storms coming soon. Still hoping for some redemption.

snowpack-1

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(RogerDodger) - F

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... on 01/31/2014 09:42:06 MST Print View

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Edited by RogerDodger on 07/02/2015 11:19:51 MDT.

James Reilly
(zippymorocco) - M

Locale: Montana
Hatfield on 01/31/2014 09:57:06 MST Print View

It's time to call in Charlie Hatfield.

Hatfield



Charles Hatfied, San Diego Rainmaker, Wiki link

Edited by zippymorocco on 01/31/2014 09:57:44 MST.