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Jeremy Rardin
(JearBear) - F

Locale: Cumberland Trail
SUL for 40 F on 01/08/2014 21:57:57 MST Print View

I am looking for SUL gear list ideas for 40F temps. I have a 11.7 oz gatewood cape for shelter and rain gear. I would like the list to include the the gatewood cape.

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: SUL for 40 F on 01/08/2014 22:30:55 MST Print View

A medium Zpacks 0 = 4.2 ounces
A 40* EE Enigma 40* = 12-14 ounces
GG pads 1/8" cut under feet = 2 or less Nightlight on top = 5 ounces so 7 ounces
Jacket Montbell Ex-Light = 5.7 ounces
Gatewood Cape = 11.7 ounces
Light Cocking set-up = 5 ounces or less

All this equals about 45 ounces or 2 lbs 13 ounces.
It will keep you plenty warm to 40* as well

You have 70% of the weight of your gear in the above and at less than 3 pounds.
A Gatewood Cape is a nice piece of gear for a SUL setup.

The whole idea of SUL is to make sure your gear is both small and light to enable you to use a pack like a Zpacks Zero.
If you don't do this, everything keeps adding up to where you need a 2 1/2 pound pack to comfortably carry everything.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: SUL for 40 F on 01/08/2014 22:47:06 MST Print View

Cooking gear?
Water bottles?
First aid kit?
Night clothing if wet?

Could be a few things short here.


Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: Re: SUL for 40 F on 01/08/2014 22:57:19 MST Print View

Just giving some "big" item hints.

todd h
(funnymoney) - MLife

Locale: SE
Re: SUL for 40 F on 01/09/2014 07:24:37 MST Print View

Get LiteTrail's 550 cooking setup, or make your own w/a soup can pot/foil lid from Progresso + Ti-wing esbit stove + foil windscreen. Add fire starter/lighter of choice.

Smartwater bottles + Sawyer Squeeze Mini

Driducks or similar jacket for rain/wind/added heat retention.

Swiss Army knife classic (tiny one).

Button cell light.

Basic first aid/repair/misc in ziploc: bandaids, duct tape, a few meds, drivers license, keys, cell phone, whistle.

Add a base / sleeping layer if you like them - I do.

Edited by funnymoney on 01/09/2014 07:28:33 MST.

Jeremy Rardin
(JearBear) - F

Locale: Cumberland Trail
My bad on 01/09/2014 08:37:24 MST Print View

I'm not really too concerned about the Big 4, its the other gear that is getting me. I have 13.5 oz of ditty gear and 10.2 oz cooking and drinking. I want a SUL cooking system that weighs less than 5 oz with everything and has a windscreen. Right now my system includes 1/4 pack towel 22 grams
Fork 5 grams
2 oz water filter
Cook pot 75 grams
Windscreen 11 grams
Stove 13 grams
and my 2 water bottles were 102 grams, but i know i can get much lighter on those.

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: My bad on 01/09/2014 08:47:41 MST Print View

Here are some Videos by Mike Clelland,you might be the most interested in,All the DINKY stuff, Part ONE. This means the little items , and All the DINKY stuff, Part TWO The first-aid kit, repair kit and the cook kit.If you don't to make your own cheap and light cook system like in Mikes video(at the bottom of the page is Andrew Skurka demonstrating how to make the cat food can stove) , HERE is a already put together set up by Lite Trail TOTAL Weight: 3.40 oz Handles / 2.97 No Handles on the pot. But there are many cheap and light systems. THIS was Joe Valeskos PCT gear list(Total Base Weight:
4 lbs, 15 oz / 2.23 kg)you can click on links in his list,such as his stove and it shows what it looks like and how he made it. None of the lists include a Gatewood Cape, but they might give you ideas for other areas to save weight.This is the Suluk 46 T.E.A. SYSTEM .
And HERE is his(Steven Evens) SUL gear list.

Edited by annapurna on 01/09/2014 09:40:23 MST.

Jeremy Rardin
(JearBear) - F

Locale: Cumberland Trail
Re: Re: My bad on 01/09/2014 10:27:06 MST Print View

Nice! That is exactly what I was looking for. I hadn't seen the Suluk TEA system before. That is probably the one ill go with.

Jeremy Rardin
(JearBear) - F

Locale: Cumberland Trail
Beer Keg Can on 01/09/2014 11:54:10 MST Print View

The only downside I see is how potentially fragile the pot is, but that is the nature of SUL

Jamie Shortt
(jshortt) - MLife

Locale: North Carolina
Re: SUL for 40 F on 01/09/2014 19:25:37 MST Print View

Jeremy, I post gear list from my trips on my website.\journeys

I just checked and 5 of my last 7 trips were below 5 lbs base weight (all lists available). Most of my gear is MYOG so I have that as an advantage, but on several trips I was also carrying a kindle so I take what I need to enjoy myself.

The important thing is really knowing your gear and honing your skills. I try to do something different each time I go out and I continue to learn. And yes I make mistakes, that is when I am really learning.


Jeremy Rardin
(JearBear) - F

Locale: Cumberland Trail
Re: Re: SUL for 40 F on 01/09/2014 22:59:30 MST Print View


I appreciate your insight! Though I have made some of my own gear, I am not too great at it haha. I just looked over some of the stuff on your sight and that's really awesome! I really like some of that stuff you have made. I particularly am into the gear list for temps 35 to 60. 40 to 70 is what I will encounter most until summer. notice you carry a 2.5 L bottle, do you use that as a bladder with a hose? Or is that for camp?

I also really like your backpack design as well as your cuben tarp design. That is really cool. How well does your rain wrap work?

Edited by JearBear on 01/09/2014 23:19:21 MST.