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Robert Meurant
(rmeurant) - MLife
Not yet on 01/01/2014 22:29:54 MST Print View

As far as I am aware, the synthetic quilt will not be available until March.

Benjamin Moryson
(hrXXL) - MLife

Locale: Germany
Quilt on 01/02/2014 00:52:36 MST Print View

Yes you are right. The quilt will be released in spring. The quality of the quilt is superb. I could test this one on a trip last november

Robert Meurant
(rmeurant) - MLife
Saw your photos on your blog on 01/02/2014 01:41:56 MST Print View

Benjamin,

I guess those must be your beautiful photos on

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61712293@N03/sets/72157637907791613/

?

By the way, might I ask - the red Moonlight special LAUFBURSCHE pack you also have photos of, has I think a slot for a pad to be inserted. But when the pack has gear in it, is it difficult to then slide the pad back in, after use for a snack en route? I imagine it would be...

(Thanks in anticipation).

Edited by rmeurant on 01/02/2014 02:08:15 MST.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Locus Gear on 01/02/2014 03:10:41 MST Print View

I love the trekking poles! I've been using mine for the past eight month. Flip locks without the crazy bulging design of the lekis, and without the crazy overwrought grips. I just wish they would offer replacement tips.

Robert Meurant
(rmeurant) - MLife
Mark on 01/02/2014 03:53:01 MST Print View

I just presumed they were the standard Leki tips - are they not?

Ito Jakuchu
(jakuchu) - MLife

Locale: Japan
khufu on 01/02/2014 06:28:44 MST Print View

I have a black cuben Khufu - very beautifully made, with great attention to detail. Would love to try his eVent bivy sometime..

spelt the enigmatic
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
Re: khufu on 01/02/2014 10:46:16 MST Print View

Are the trekking poles robust enough for skiing? I currently own BD Trails b/c I don't want the clutter of summer and winter poles. The CP3 flicklocks would save quite a bit of weight, but unless they have 4-season strength they're a no-go even to consider.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
Locus Gear on 01/02/2014 18:17:45 MST Print View

The Locus Gear poles are somewhere around the minimum stiffness for skiing. You're not going to break one skiing (ie. hard pole plants) but you could break one crashing pretty easily. I would use them for long traverses and mild-moderate descents, but I wouldn't use them for downhill oriented trips.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Mark on 01/02/2014 21:48:02 MST Print View

"I just presumed they were the standard Leki tips - are they not?"

LEKI makes a bunch of different ones but no, they don't appear to be any of those. I went so far as to ask the company about this and they say you could buy a whole lower section replacement for over $20 (maybe it was a pair, I forget). I did discover the tips (just the metal part) can be pried out so if you could find just the tip piece you could probably replace them easily. I asked on here in the summer but no one replied about possible places to look for substitutes. Probably you could get them off the normal way with heat and replace them with BD or Leki full replacement tips, but I used a micrometer on the ends of the poles and they are off by about 0.5-1 mm in radius from the standard BD and leki radius, so it could be iffy. If someone works it out and posts is it would be great, but it could be a kind of expensive proposition the first time around just to find out as the dimensions appear to be unique.

For now the company does not act motivated at all on this issue which is the one (a big one) down side to Locus gear. I go through a pair of tips in the summer in about 6 months if I'm doing a lot of sierra backpacking, so it is a big issue for me at $120 a pop. Otherwise I will wait until I feel I have to replace the tip and then try things. Maybe by then Locus will over replacement tips. I would definitely thing twice about replacing the poles with new one, of even being forced to buy expensive whole end sections, before buying from them again in that case.

Anyone with any ideas there?

The one thing I might beef up a bit would be to have some slightly more padded (not leki level though) straps. They are just the thinnest possible webbing (barely merit that term other than they are flat LOL), like the cinches on the lightest of UL backpacks. I use the wraparound style, so barest of pressure on the grip and most of the weight on the strap (and the strap on my hand). Without gloves they might be a little irritating after a long day even though unless I slip I only use them for balamce typically

Anyone with ideas on that one? The attachments are a bit too small to simply sub in some old leki straps - God knows there is a trekking pole graveyard in my closet - guess I'm expecting the 13 dwarves to show up at my door and all need poles for their trip to the lonely mountain. Anyway, probably a simple sewing project at some point before the spring.

Edited by millonas on 01/02/2014 22:09:51 MST.

Benjamin Moryson
(hrXXL) - MLife

Locale: Germany
Pad for th pack on 01/03/2014 00:13:09 MST Print View

@Robert

I don't have the red one which is only made for Japan and is too expensive to buy it and ship it back, but a year ago I could test one of the Special Edition huckeP√ĄCKchen which also have this pocket. When you are on a trip and the pack is fully loaded it is difficult to get the pad back into this pocket. But is more for urban use when you carry the pack in town and you need a frame. It is better than a burrito style.

spelt the enigmatic
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
Re: Locus Gear on 01/03/2014 08:47:54 MST Print View

Thanks, Dan, I was hoping you'd chime in. I don't do anything gnarly, so perhaps I will try some when I have the cash to spare.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: @Mark re CP3 tip repair on 01/04/2014 20:05:08 MST Print View

"For now the company does not act motivated at all on this issue which is the one (a big one) down side to Locus gear. I go through a pair of tips in the summer in about 6 months if I'm doing a lot of sierra backpacking, so it is a big issue for me at $120 a pop. Otherwise I will wait until I feel I have to replace the tip and then try things. Maybe by then Locus will over replacement tips. I would definitely thing twice about replacing the poles with new one, of even being forced to buy expensive whole end sections, before buying from them again in that case.

Anyone with any ideas there?"

I have the same concern, so I emailed Jotaro yesterday and received a very prompt and informative reply, which I am including below:

Hi Tom,

>Can a broken pole tip be replaced with a standard Leki or Patagonia pole
tip?

No, because the shape of the end tip in CP3 is not generic.
We can sell both the replacement end part and the end shaft for CP3.
Here is the price for them.

The replacement end part for CP3.....800yen /PC including standard Ail mail
fee
* You need to fix yourself.

The end shaft (the lower section) for CP3.....2500yen /PC including standard
Ail mail fee


Best regards,

Jotaro Yoshida&Locus Gear Team
Locus Gear/Magic Wand, Inc.

I'd say he's got us covered.

Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Re: Re: Re: @Mark re CP3 tip repair on 01/04/2014 21:34:10 MST Print View

800 + 2500 = 3300 yen = 31.53 dollars x 2 = 63.06 dollars

Basically, half the price of the poles

Billy

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Re: Re: @Mark re CP3 tip repair on 01/05/2014 00:03:14 MST Print View

"I'd say he's got us covered."

If he means you can't replace the tips wit leki/bd replacement tips then yeah, that is fine. Like I said the measurements are off by at least 0.5 mm. But if he is saying (as they told me 6 months ago) you have to replace both the tip AND the lowest shaft portion, and for that ridiculous price, without having actually broken the shaft, then No, that I find an unacceptable price to pay to replace a worn out tip.

On the other hand if they if they indeed now sell the tips separately (they said they did not 6 month ago) then that would be acceptable.

It is possible there is a language thing here, since "tips" may not translate as the "metal part that touches the ground". I like the poles enough that I would buy the replacement tips now if I could get a straight answer from them. They need to have it on their website with at least a picture, I think so there is no confusion.

So still needs clarification. If I can't buy the tips (separately) at a reasonable price for replacement commensurate with the leki/bd replacement tip prices of $10-12 (per pair), or thereabout, then when my tips wear out I will simply not buy anything from locus gear after that.

It would be a shame for them to make such a nice product, and then blow it on such a trivial but required detail, but stranger things happen all the time, unfortunately.

Edit: OK I broke down and wrote locus myself. I was very pedantic (and apologized for this) about what exactly could be purchase separately, and if we could get a picture. The main problem as I see it is there is no part listed on their website, in spite of the fact that they have baskets and rubber "grampa's cane" typo replacement parts there. This is weird, so in addition to all the confusion, it raises the question of why the part that wears out the quickest is not listed. I'll let you know what I find out.

When you are more or less perfectly happy with some piece of gear, which for me is pretty rare, it is worth it to get this straight. I'd probably order 2 extra pair of replacement tips in advance if I could get just what I want since with a smallest company you never know when they might stop making them. Then at least I could go for a few years on them.

Edited by millonas on 01/05/2014 01:09:19 MST.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Mark re CP3 tip repair on 01/05/2014 16:56:02 MST Print View

"If he means you can't replace the tips wit leki/bd replacement tips then yeah, that is fine. Like I said the measurements are off by at least 0.5 mm. But if he is saying (as they told me 6 months ago) you have to replace both the tip AND the lowest shaft portion, and for that ridiculous price, without having actually broken the shaft, then No, that I find an unacceptable price to pay to replace a worn out tip.

On the other hand if they if they indeed now sell the tips separately (they said they did not 6 month ago) then that would be acceptable."

It seems pretty clear to me that he is offering to sell the replaceable tip separately for 800 Yen. Note he says that you have to do the repair yourself, which for me at least provides a context for interpreting what he means by tip. It makes no sense that he would try to force you to buy the lower pole section AND tip together when only the tip is broken. I also suspect that if you order the lower section, it will come with a tip already installed, but that is only a suspicion. My correspondence with Jotaro, several emails to date, have given me the very firm impression that he is a totally honest, straight up man. I simply cannot believe he would try to force anyone to buy both the tip and lower pole section in order to replace a broken tip. It just doesn't compute. Anyhow, I posted his reply in an effort to ease some concerns expressed in this thread. How you all choose to interpret/use it is up to you.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Mark re CP3 tip repair on 01/05/2014 17:06:26 MST Print View

Yeah, that is probably the case. If so I will buy a few before they change the policy. :-) They did tell me six months ago that the only option was the full end replacement. FWIW, I'm sure the other option with the whole lower shaft includes the tip as well, as that is what they were offering back then.

Incidentally, because of how the tip ends are made for these poles, if it is only the tip being worn down, you can likely forgo the process of heating and replacing the whole thing as the metal tip ends can simply be pulled out and replaced.

Edited by millonas on 01/05/2014 17:09:20 MST.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Update on 01/05/2014 19:27:44 MST Print View

Here is the reply:


Hi Mark,

The replacement for CP3 is available.

If you can fix the end part (see attached photo) yourself, the price is
800yen/pc including standard air mail fee.
And the lowest shaft is 2,500yen/pc including standard air mail fee.

The only tip which is made with the tiny metal can not be fixed yourself
without the tool so you need to change whole the part.


Best regards,

Jotaro Yoshida&Locus Gear Team
Locus Gear/Magic Wand, Inc.


And here is the picture of the tip:

end

So quoting:

"The only tip which is made with the tiny metal can not be fixed yourself
without the tool so you need to change whole the part."

Seem to be referring to the difference here between just the metal tip and the tip + adapter, which is basically how it is for the ones we are familiar with from Leki and BD. So yes, if I can order these then I'm very happy and will do so right away. He still seem to be equivocating a bit, but I now take that as him just trying to be clear on what is needed to make sure I know what I'm in for - customer satisfaction and all that.

At 800 yet per tip this is very reasonable. So now I will be in trekking pole nirvana, and just have to figure out a DIY project to make the straps a bit more comfortable.

Edited by millonas on 01/05/2014 19:28:21 MST.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Update on 01/05/2014 20:24:52 MST Print View

"At 800 yet per tip this is very reasonable. So now I will be in trekking pole nirvana"

All's well that ends well. ;)

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: Update on 01/05/2014 21:40:19 MST Print View

So yes, if I can order these then I'm very happy and will do so right away. He still seem to be equivocating a bit, but I now take that as him just trying to be clear on what is needed to make sure I know what I'm in for - customer satisfaction and all that.

He's not equivocating; he's writing to you in English, not his native language. Just having some confusion on what vocabulary to use. He is just making sure you know exactly what you will be paying for and getting.

Jotaro is great to work with and buy from. Very honest, quick to respond, and meticulous in every detail from the things he makes, to customer service. You can't go wrong with him.

Edited by butuki on 01/05/2014 21:41:36 MST.

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: Re: Update on 01/05/2014 22:33:54 MST Print View

By equivocating I mean something that he volunteered in a followup email, and that makes sense - they don't put the tips on their website because it might confuse some customers into thinking that installation of the tips was trivial, or worse, guaranteed. I get this. By making sure they sell them seperatly, he can get this message through. It makes sense that he has to keep adding that the tips are hard to install, and to offer the only "simple"solution - that of buying the per-assembled lower shafts. That is what I meant by "equivocating" - its not a complaint - just an observation. In this case equivocation is justified and a good thing. I admit it is not the best wrod to have used for that, just the only one I had at my disposal at the moment.

Edited by millonas on 01/07/2014 00:23:27 MST.