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Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
BPL Cocoon Hoody Replacement ? on 12/26/2013 11:42:38 MST Print View

I need to replace my Cocoon hoody. It is what I pull out when I "get the to top", warm, damp, and windblown, and need to stay warm. It also gets used for about 30 minutes in camp before I turn in, and for the 30 minutes in the morning before I hit the trail.

I'm looking for something minimalist, synthetic, windproof, 1/2 or 1/4 zip, and Light (the Cocoon is 10 ounces). Pockets are not necessary, but an adjustable (front-to-back) hood is.

I can hack a full zip into a 1/2 zip if necessary.

I not interested in WindPro, or in windshirt/fleece combinations. Save those for another thread.

If anyone can confirm the clo for the Cocoon (1.68?), it would be appreciated, and will help in the apples-to-apples department.

Suggestions?

Thanks.

Edited by greg23 on 12/26/2013 11:53:36 MST.

William Chilton
(WilliamC3) - MLife

Locale: Antakya
Re: BPL Cocoon Hoody Replacement ? on 12/26/2013 11:51:14 MST Print View

Cumulus Climalite? http://www.sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/Climalite-Pullover,jackets,81.html
No personal experience with it, just seen it on the net.

Richard Nisley
(richard295) - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: BPL Cocoon Hoody Replacement ? on 12/26/2013 12:16:10 MST Print View

Greg,

The original 2009 Cocoon was 1.36 Iclo. The fall 2010 Cocoon was 2.02 Iclo.

A comparable weight/function jacket is the Rab Xenon @ 1.51 Iclo.

Benjamin Moryson
(hrXXL) - MLife

Locale: Germany
astucas.com on 12/26/2013 13:17:41 MST Print View

I think there is something planned from astucas.com which will be released in the next time.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: BPL Cocoon Hoody Replacement ? on 12/26/2013 15:29:26 MST Print View

Richard,
Thank you.


I have an "original".
The Rab Xenon is at the top of my list. But I'm not finding any 2012 XLs

Edited by greg23 on 12/26/2013 19:44:54 MST.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
cocoon replacement on 12/26/2013 16:33:43 MST Print View

One of the pre-2013 Xenons (made with Quantum GL) is probably the best bet.

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: Re: BPL Cocoon Hoody Replacement ? on 12/26/2013 19:41:12 MST Print View

Is the fall 2010 Cocoon the one in olive green and made with the "proprietary" insulation and the 2009 Cocoon in black made with Polarguard Delta?

Richard Nisley
(richard295) - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Re: Re: BPL Cocoon Hoody Replacement ? on 12/26/2013 20:53:09 MST Print View

Brad,

Yes to the differences you described between the 2009 and 2010 Cocoon models.

And E
(LunchANDYnner)

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Xenon on 12/26/2013 21:50:22 MST Print View

The Rab Xenon is probably my favorite jacket I have. My medium comes in at 10.3oz and it is incredibly warm. I love that it has very minimal quilting as this allows the insulation to stay fully lofted and very little stitching for wind to sneak in through.

I especially love the fit. I usually wear smalls, but sometimes I'm just a tad too big for a small (haven't been running as much lately), but a medium is far too large. Since this is a Euro piece, the medium fits me perfectly. It's not too tight, or too loose and I can comfortably wear a grid fleece or even my Stoic Hadron Anorak under it if need be.

Serge G.
(sgiachetti) - M

Locale: Boulder, CO
arc teryx nuclei on 12/28/2013 00:46:03 MST Print View

from what I can tell, arc teryx pretty much copied the design of the rab xenon exactly with their nuclei, except with their coreloft insulation, & 80 grams in the torso. The xenon has been a great peice for me and is amazingly weather/wind resistant with the non sewn through pertex GL shell design.

Marco A. Sánchez
(marcoasn) - M

Locale: The fabulous Pyrenees
Re: astucas.com on 01/09/2014 07:39:44 MST Print View

Hi there,

I'm Marco from As Tucas.

Yes, by the end of January there will be available an insulated hoody (in both jacket and pullover versions) with the same design goal and philosophy as the discontinued Cocoon garments. Momentum 50 shell, Momentum 45 liner and Climashield APEX insulation (available in 3 weights: 67, 100 & 133 g/sqm - 2.0, 3.0 & 4.0 osy). Full specs in a few days.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: astucas.com on 01/09/2014 08:48:33 MST Print View

just spotted your climashield pants, very nice.

Edited by stephenm on 01/09/2014 08:52:30 MST.

Marco A. Sánchez
(marcoasn) - M

Locale: The fabulous Pyrenees
Re: Re: Re: astucas.com on 01/09/2014 08:54:35 MST Print View

Hi Stephen,

Trousers are already available, as well as a matching balaclava: astucas.com/en/clothing.

Marco.

Edited by marcoasn on 01/09/2014 08:55:33 MST.

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
Re: Re: astucas.com on 01/09/2014 10:09:12 MST Print View

Good news Marco. It's great to see someone building clothing with Climashield.

Marco A. Sánchez
(marcoasn) - M

Locale: The fabulous Pyrenees
Re: Re: Re: astucas.com on 01/09/2014 10:21:20 MST Print View

Thanks Dave!

I'm working on the logistics side too, so I'll be able to offer lower shipping costs to the USA. For large items (e.g. a quilt) the current shipping costs are almost prohibitive.

Marco.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: Re: Re: astucas.com on 01/09/2014 10:22:48 MST Print View

Cheers Marco,