kindle fire hd tablet...any good?
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dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
kindle fire hd tablet...any good? on 12/02/2013 10:46:32 MST Print View

i just bought one because it was only100$ and since i dont have a smartphone anymore(saving lot$) i can use this for weather updates etc when near a hotspot.Just wondering if this is a good device for websurfing and email.My needs are simple.I am not a geek and i dont know or care about all these apps they talk about.I plan to use a tab for travel in europe as well for train,museum,weather,hotels.

Phillip Asby
(PGAsby) - M

Locale: North Carolina
Fires on 12/03/2013 14:56:08 MST Print View

We have two original Kindle Fires in the house - they are fine devices and I'd expect the HD to be the same with a better screen and processor.

Having said that - I do find Amazon's 'shell' on Android to be less useful than a straight Android install - for a little more I'd get a Google Nexus 7 (I have a first generation) and get Android stock from Google - access to the play store - no memory partitioning (which Amazon does) - bigger number of apps, etc...

dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
f on 12/04/2013 00:53:33 MST Print View

the price was the draw for me.At 100$ its disposable.I dont need one badly but if i had brought it with me on bp trip last week,i would have saved about 20bux in gas by avoiding unnecessary driving.

Phillip Asby
(PGAsby) - M

Locale: North Carolina
Fire on 12/05/2013 08:16:53 MST Print View

Don't get me wrong - I think they are great devices and we've been happy with ours.

At that price point it is hard to go wrong really.

I'm more of a tinkerer I suppose and find navigating without the Amazon interface easier. But its far from a deal breaker.

David Barnes
(twindaddy) - M
Kindle Value on 12/05/2013 16:07:49 MST Print View

I have 3 gen I's in my house. I like to say they are 75-80 % of an ipad at 25-40% of the price. Despite my kids being issued iPads for school, they still like they Kindle for its size re carrying it about and using it for Pandora, Netflix and the books.

At 100ish all in, you got a great deal on a very capable device that will give you years of service. I am a firm believer in going to TJ Maxx, Marshalls etc for cheap cases and headphones for these as well.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Kindle Value on 12/05/2013 16:18:27 MST Print View

"Despite my kids being issued iPads for school..."

Your school district furnishes iPads to all students?

dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
dilemma on 12/05/2013 23:05:34 MST Print View

as well as buying the kindle i grabbed an f3 lg smartphone/no contract for god knows what reason.Well i just found out i can use that phone as a tablet as well albeit with a smaller screen than the kindle...now i like the kindle but weight wise and portability, the phone cant be beat...one of my future uses for one of these devices will be for travel to europe and using it for reservations for hostels,trains,museums and then weather,email.So now i have to decide...

Edited by hipass on 12/05/2013 23:10:45 MST.

Phillip Asby
(PGAsby) - M

Locale: North Carolina
weight and size on 12/09/2013 07:16:22 MST Print View

I admit I have too many devices and several operating systems.

A tablet is for most systems a bigger phone without the phone and sometimes without data service (WiFi only devices). I do think a 7" device is the best compromise of screen size and usability for most uses - web surfing reading short email etc... But obviously less portable. I often have both with me depending on the trip.

If you are using it in Europe decide what connectivity you want - if you want a phone make sure it has a gsm radio... Otherwise you are on WiFi only which in Europe is less constricting than here as there are more hotspots.

Sumi Wada
(DetroitTigerFan) - F

Locale: Ann Arbor
Kindles on 12/09/2013 09:13:00 MST Print View

I like Amazon and love my Kindle BUT I can't say I'm impressed with their durability. I'm on Kindle number 3 in as many years. I got their original reader, which I think last about 1-1/2 years before the screen went. I've had a Fire for 2 years and the screen is pulling away from the "frame"; there's about a 1/8" gap all the way around, and the AC-power plug is temperamental. It still works, amazingly enough, but I don't travel with it anymore. I didn't abuse either one though the original Kindle reader did go backpacking with me. I don't think there's any excuse for the Fire to have fallen apart.

My husband and son still have their original iPad's, going on 4-5 years. They take them everywhere and are handled much rougher than I do my Kindles. I've replaced my Kindle reader with the cheapest one they sell simply because it's the lightest option and, for the price, I won't be broken-hearted if it fails in a year. But I won't be putting my money into the more expensive Kindle models anymore. As much as I didn't want to, I'm moving to the iPad mini.

dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
EUROPE on 12/09/2013 09:19:00 MST Print View

THANKS PHIL.
Im not going to use the smartphone as a phone here or in europe since i hate costly data plans and already have a dumb phone contract.I would only use the smartphone for websurfing all without the bulk of a tablet.When it comes to devices i like small stuff.Im not at all interested in watching movies or youtybe on any small screen like a tablet...i dont get watching movies on anything less than 2o inches...movies are made to fit large screens not small.
Im trying to figure out if i would like to carry a tab in my backpack in europe and if its larger bulk would be justified or a major pain....i could see it as nice for watching stuff when im on the train or plane or just for the advantage of it being a larger screen than the smartphone...however that tab would get bashed around being so bulky and awkward sized...the smartphone to me seems so much more logical.What am i failing to see with the tab?

Sumi Wada
(DetroitTigerFan) - F

Locale: Ann Arbor
Re: EUROPE on 12/09/2013 09:33:22 MST Print View

FWIW, my phone has significantly less battery life when used as a web-browser than the iPad. Phones can differ from model to model, as well.

Phillip Asby
(PGAsby) - M

Locale: North Carolina
Tablets v phones on 12/09/2013 09:34:06 MST Print View

If you're using the phone essentially as a wifi small tablet the only difference between comparable systems (i.e. assuming both are Android using the same "shell") is the size of the screen. This is ignoring relative processing power but we'll assume they are roughly equivalent and that the screens are similar in terms of resolution - but those are differences inherent between tablets as well or phones generally.

You're asking the right questions I think however. How do you use it? For some the smaller screen size is fine due to how they use it and what they want out of a device. The bigger the screen, the easier some things are like typing and particularly watching media. 7" tablets are great for reading on the Kindle app, easier to handle and hold for an extended period. I also have a 10" tablet that is nice for TV and web surfing, but not so much better than the 7" that I go to it all the time - I use the 7" (Nexus 7 in my case) more often.

I have an iPhone and a Nexus 4 - both are great devices but for my 40 something eyes extended sessions on the small screen are less than fun and I would not want to read for any extended period on one - the small font and limited amount of text available would irritate me. But younger sharper eyed folks may have less issues!

dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
s on 12/09/2013 09:37:52 MST Print View

thanks Sumi for the durability report...

dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
uses on 12/09/2013 10:01:02 MST Print View

Phil,its mainly for looking at train and museum schedules and hotel stuff...honestly the concept of using a tab for reading or watching tv,movies etc is almost implausible to me.I guess im way old school.The young salesperson at best buy told me she watches movies on her iphone in bed with her husband(or while eating at the table-isnt that rude to the other people at the table? ) vs watching her big screen tv which sucks too much costly energy.It blew my mind and she looked at me like i was strange for not being able to relate-id like to show her a rotary dial phone or answering machine!

Edited by hipass on 12/09/2013 10:01:50 MST.

Phillip Asby
(PGAsby) - M

Locale: North Carolina
whale oil lamps on 12/09/2013 12:11:41 MST Print View

Dave - I get that completely. My wife and I just upgraded from a 29" flat panel to a real big screen. Must have been the very last folks to do so. No way am I choosing to watch TV on a tablet or a phone if I have a real TV. I only watch media periodically when travelling. But I understand young folks really like watching stuff on their phones which i don't really get either if you have better alternatives...

I do read on a Kindle most of the time - I do like that I can have access to a book on my phone or tablet and don't have to haul it around - this holds for backpacking especially. I admit I also got hooked on the Kindle when I was in consulting and travelled a ton = it was so much easier. I check out digital books from the library cause I'm also cheap = I don't like buying digital content particularly if I'm buying it I want a real book.

Mostly for me its web browsing and finding information like you. for web content I still prefer the bigger screen of a tablet given the choice but certainly understand why some are fine on a smartphone screen.

When backpacking I often don't take a tablet and just use my smartphone for the Kindle app in airplane mode to save the battery - I still like to read for a bit before going to sleep - even if it's only a couple pages!

dave e
(hipass) - F

Locale: Los Angeles
dd on 12/09/2013 19:57:22 MST Print View

you can check out library books on a kindle or smartphone?i was thinking of packing a whole book in my pack...i really dont know much about apps and all this computer stuff.

Jennifer Mitol
(Jenmitol) - M

Locale: In my dreams....
Re: dd on 12/09/2013 20:51:18 MST Print View

Yes, you can check out library books on most e readers, I am a huge fan of the nook glo light, that way I don't have to use my headlamp to read in the tent at night. I can also have dozens of books on there if i finish one, or just don't want to read one any longer.....

No apps or anything on those e readers, but the batteries literally last a month on a single charge.

Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Re: dd on 12/09/2013 22:41:45 MST Print View

another, lighter way to go is a small iPod and audio books...

Billy

David Barnes
(twindaddy) - M
Response to G re Issued iPads on 12/10/2013 20:13:32 MST Print View

G,

My children attend a private school. The fees we are paying for books have been shunted to paying for iPads, insurance, training etc. It started with 6th grade last year, went to all the middle school this year ( 6/7/8) and is going to the high school in the fall.

Sarah Kirkconnell
(sarbar) - F

Locale: In the shadow of Mt. Rainier
Re: dd on 12/10/2013 21:59:55 MST Print View

I read on my Kindle app on my Nokia Lumia 1020 every day. It actually works quite well when backpacking, although yes, it does eat battery.

And depending on your library...it can be a goldmine. I use King County Library, which is I think second biggest in the US - we even can check out magazine digitally using a service provided by Zinio - for FREE. I grabbed Zinios app and I can even download magazines onto my phone for reading when in airplane mode, same as for the Kindle app.

When I think how I used to take reading materials only 4 years ago I cringe. I am one of those who can read a book a night. Now....I can read as much as I want, and all I have to haul is a way to charge my phone if needed.

I heart my smartphone. I really, really do (and it is my 4th smartphone so far.....)

PS: My husband just got the new Lumia 1520. Holy cow that screen is amazing for reading on.