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Ryan Jordan
(ryan) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Greater Yellowstone
Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Packages on 11/19/2013 22:46:50 MST Print View

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Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Packages

Jeffrey List
(jlist) - M

Locale: Cape Cod
Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Packages on 11/20/2013 06:49:30 MST Print View

MarthaBar
150 cal/oz

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
re: expedition snacks on 11/20/2013 09:05:33 MST Print View

Now that winter is coming, a staple is Reese's Peanut Butter bars and Cadbury Roasted almond bars. Both in the 140 cal/oz range, as well as the 400 cal/$ range.

adam blanton
(adamallstar) - MLife

Locale: Central Texas
Sesame Snaps on 11/20/2013 09:15:01 MST Print View

Loucks Sesame Snaps, regular or chocolate

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: Sesame Snaps on 11/20/2013 09:21:19 MST Print View

sesame snaps are good and Halvah is 130 calories an ounce 150 an ounce for chocolate Halvah.

Edited by annapurna on 11/20/2013 09:25:32 MST.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Packages on 11/20/2013 09:57:02 MST Print View

I make my own packages of oatmeal, powdered milk, brown sugar - in thin plastic. I use "Old Fashioned" oats rather than instant.

Same thing with soup packages. I repackage in thin plastic, add dehydrated green/red bell peppers, tomatoes, onions from packitgourmet.

For both - boil water, turn down to low so it doesn't burn, add food packet, bring back to low boil maybe 30 seconds, then let it sit for 5 minutes.

Chris Rife
(vitaminc) - M
pocket fuel on 11/20/2013 10:25:29 MST Print View

PocketFuel

I originally tried this stuff for trail running, where I found it a bit hard to swallow without copious amounts of water. For backpacking trips, however, it's great! Works great either plain or spread onto a homemade bar.

Edited by vitaminc on 11/20/2013 10:26:28 MST.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: pocket fuel on 11/20/2013 10:42:50 MST Print View

PocketFuel

Roughly, depending on flavor -

170 calories per 32 gram serving, 1.6 "servings" per packet, 270 calories total
190 calories per ounce
70% fat from nuts
30% carbs from sugar


$1.35/ounce in bulk
$1.50/ ounce in packets

Edited by greg23 on 11/20/2013 10:50:18 MST.

Craig Nadeau
(TacticalMountain) - MLife
Eatmore on 11/20/2013 10:42:52 MST Print View

Eatmore's - probably the most common backpack snack food amongst the people I hang with

Short story, I was on the West Coast Trail and stopped at the famous Chez Moniques. I bought a bag of gummie bears for $3.50 there were 32 in the bag. Nothing ever tasted so good.

Vance Russell
(connor3089ut)
OK Solution but... on 11/20/2013 11:01:30 MST Print View

Interesting idea Ryan but has a couple of downsides: single servings never really the right size for the hunger you have at the moment; more trash to deal with; and more expensive than buying bulk.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Package on 11/20/2013 11:43:09 MST Print View

I buy most items in bulk and repackage them in snack or sandwich size bags. Lots cheaper and no problems with leftover snacks since they can be resealed in the snack bags for later use.

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
Re: Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Package on 11/20/2013 12:02:04 MST Print View

yikes :

for one, i can eat a 16oz bag of cashews while drinking a cheap bottle of wine (both avail at Trader Joe's) at one sitting. no problems what so ever.
so "extra uneaten nuts" ??? what's with that program ....
like, you CAN't have too many cashews. you just can't.
you probably could not have too many macadamia nuts as well, but lordy, they cost a Ton more money.

also, that nut butter and salmon packaging is like, an neutron bomb of problems about to blow in a pack. that be just my op, but just one of those salmon ied's going off would seriously compromise a trip. and you'd never get the stench out. worse than diesel fuel even. which, i guess it's not really that bad once you decide to appreciate the aroma.

the cookies are not going to live long unless in a bear can, and that can is not packed very tight.

all in all, an interesting article, if only to see how other folks deal in various ways with the issues of eating fun on a trip.

as far as dogma goes. it's all good. you can go faster and easier with single servings of foods, that deal with opening multiple bags and doling out this and such amounts of whatever at every meal break gets old.
for snacks, i figure out in the morning what is the day's ration, and dump that in my front bag. when it's gone .. it's gone.

cheers,
v.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Walkers Shortbread on 11/20/2013 14:49:18 MST Print View

Yeah, we go through a few packets of this ourselves.

Cheers

spelt !
(spelt) - F

Locale: Midwest
ok? on 11/20/2013 15:36:29 MST Print View

I'm not seeing the utility of this article. There's nothing here about simplifying meal planning or eating except the convenience of buying pre-packaged. That's a weak justification, easily countered by the extra expense and packaging waste.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: ok? on 11/20/2013 15:50:55 MST Print View

"... the convenience of buying pre-packaged."

Pre-packaged Snacks, at that.

Hardly "...the shopping, packaging, and preparation of expedition foods...".

But then, could it be that this Is all that Ryan eats? On one trip all he took were macadamia nuts and chocolate.

I guess it falls under HYOH and YMMV.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re on 11/20/2013 15:56:17 MST Print View

I thought I was looking at ads for snacks, but it was the article :)


I would rather package my own.

Edited by Kat_P on 11/20/2013 15:58:28 MST.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Re: Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Package on 11/20/2013 18:43:55 MST Print View

"...also, that nut butter and salmon packaging is like, an neutron bomb of problems about to blow in a pack. that be just my op, but just one of those salmon ied's going off would seriously compromise a trip. and you'd never get the stench out..."

I don't know about that - bear saliva is a great solvent!

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Why not both? on 11/20/2013 20:16:08 MST Print View

I think single serving packets have a place in a backpackers diet. I use single serving packets of Artisana nut butters and coconut oil. They sell Walnut, Pecan, Almond, Macadamia, and Cashew nut butters that I know of, and a wonderful blend called Cacao Bliss that Doug Ide turned me on to. It is a wonnnnnderful mix of coconut butter and chocolate that is, as The Colonel says, "finger lickin' good". I
also carry Justins Dark Chocolate Almond and Peanut Butter bars. All are calorie dense, and the Justins bars contain anywhere from 25-29 grams of carbs in a 2 oz bars, along with 2-3 grams of fiber, 5 grams of protein and 14-16 grams of fat.
The nut butters are up close to 200 calories in a 30-32 gram packet, with good amounts of protein and fiber, but not much in the way of carbs. Other than these items, I prefer to buy in bulk and repackage in zip locks. Cheaper, healthier, and more options for variety. Oh, and individual packets of Via coffee substitute. Sorry, Roger. ;0)

Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
Prepackaging in Grizzly Country on 11/20/2013 20:21:08 MST Print View

I'm a fan of prepackaged food in Griz country because I reason there is less chance of odors leaking out. Course the trash might smell so I don't know how much it helps.

The one thing I don't like about chips and GORP are that is hard not to get crumbs all over you and your gear. I wonder about that in Grizzly country.

Always nice to see someone else's ideas for food. I don't like gourmet style cooking on the trail but I like variety.

Most of my snacks are pre-packaged but I do like Pringles so those get repackaged. Sometimes I mix them with spicy nuts or chex mix, very tasty.

Edited by Cameron on 11/20/2013 20:24:52 MST.

Donna C
(leadfoot) - M

Locale: Middle Virginia
Re: Simplifying Expedition Food With Single Serving Sized Packages on 11/21/2013 03:56:00 MST Print View

Epic bars...comes in bison, turkey or beef jerky. I like these for breakfast or when I have eaten too many gummy bears.

http://www.epicbar.com/