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Mitch Chesney
(MChesney) - F
Thoughts on a lightweight crampon bag on 11/19/2013 12:17:33 MST Print View

I made the mistake of purchasing an Osprey crampon bag and only after receiving the package did the weight dawn on me. 11oz. 11oz for a 3L bag with all the attachment and sub-pocket thrills I have come to expect from Osprey. So here's what I came up with while mulling my situation:

1. Crampons placed point-to-point and wrapped in standard camp towel or spare t-shirt. Purpose being to lessen the protrusion of the spikes.

2. Place roll/wrap into an appropriately sized Tyvek stuff sack. Tyvek has a resistance to tearing and puncture - it's why we use it as a ground sheet - and the added padding from the towel/shirt should prevent most damage.

3. Use Tyvek tape to attach small strips of Tyvek to the outside corners as lash points. Attach cinch cord to top for a secure closure.

I've yet to make this but I have a spare groundsheet handy and a Home Depot just down the road. Has anyone tried this or have cutting patterns for a small (2-L) Tyvek pouch?

edvin mellergård
(Edvin) - F
Re: Thoughts on a lightweight crampon bag on 11/19/2013 12:21:51 MST Print View

Depending on what pair of crampons you have you can use an old soda bottle, cut of the top and slide the crampons in with the front points first. Doesnt work with all crampons, some are simply to big to fit the normal bottle sizes.

Mitch Chesney
(MChesney) - F
Soda bottle too bulky? on 11/19/2013 12:44:50 MST Print View

I saw that but figured a rigid bottle was going to be too clumsy even on the outside of the pack. I have the Petzl Vasak 12pt, btw

edvin mellergård
(Edvin) - F
Re: Soda bottle too bulky? on 11/19/2013 13:57:55 MST Print View

Yeah, it's quite big compared to a soft bag but not that bad. It looks bigger than it actually is. Personally my crampons almost never goes in a bag, especially not if they go on the outside.

But I'm mostly mixed climbing, scottish style, these days so my crampons are pretty dull anyway.

Steve P
(swillhiker) - M
Tyvek Envelope on 11/19/2013 14:42:17 MST Print View

I've used a tyvek mailing envelope for my crampons and microspikes for some time and it has worked very well. I just slip them in, roll it, and tie it off. Just an idea....

0.4 oz, BTW

***EDITED TO ADD WEIGHT***

Edited by swillhiker on 11/19/2013 14:43:15 MST.

Stephen Collins
(stephencwcollins) - M

Locale: New England
See also on 12/11/2013 20:44:23 MST Print View

This old BPL thread might be helpful: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=3489

Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Re: Thoughts on a lightweight crampon bag on 12/11/2013 21:23:54 MST Print View

Mitch...
I've backpacked with crampons from time to time over several decades and have never wrapped them or put them inside my pack. I lash them to the outside of my pack with both having their points sticking out, away from the pack. Have never had a problem with that. Of course, you need to be a bit careful where you lash them and how you swing your pack around. Sometimes I have also used 'point protectors'... rubbery things that slip over the points... but mostly I don't feel they are necessary.

I use the point protectors or crampon bag in the car and at home, but not when they're on my pack...


Billy

Critter Hampton
(TheCritter) - F

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Pack 'em Critter Style on 12/25/2013 18:36:13 MST Print View

There's an ultralight technique for carrying crampons to minimize risk of injury or damage to gear. I made a video on it. Here's the link.

Edited by TheCritter on 12/25/2013 19:15:47 MST.

Will Elliott
(elliott.will) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA / Wasilla, AK
A on 12/26/2013 16:14:12 MST Print View

Mine go on and off my pack, feet, and harness. I compress them, points in, wrap the ankle straps tightly around them, and now they're a compact little package. They're fine. I haven't ruined any of my gear yet.

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
Re: Pack 'em Critter Style on 12/27/2013 05:09:09 MST Print View

@Critter Hampton,

I enjoyed watching your YouTube video. :)

what happens to me is that when I realize I don't need them any more at the end of the last ice trail, they are covered in slushie muddy ice. I try to shake and air dry them, but I'm tired and likely 2 miles away from the car. So I either shove them haphazardly inside the crampon case or tie-down to the outside of the pack, with straps poorly wrapped around. Not a quality job, but the tourists are swarming and I just wanna get to the car.

Edited by RogerDodger on 02/19/2014 01:25:19 MST.

Jeff Jeff
(TwoFortyJeff) - F
Re: Thoughts on a lightweight crampon bag on 12/29/2013 12:55:13 MST Print View

I just stack them together so the pointed sides face each other. Then I wrap the straps around the whole mess so they don't come apart. Then I stash them under a convenient compression strap.

Ito Jakuchu
(jakuchu) - MLife

Locale: Japan
crampon bag on 02/19/2014 00:59:30 MST Print View

I do have a locally made crampon bag that is a tight fit and only 129gr. (4.5oz). I like that I can put my crampons inside my pack, and snowshoes outside on the back. Both of them would be doable but I like this set up a bit better.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Thoughts on a lightweight crampon bag on 02/19/2014 01:30:03 MST Print View

"I just stack them together so the pointed sides face each other. Then I wrap the straps around the whole mess so they don't come apart."

That's what I've done for the last 35 years.

--B.G.--

ed hyatt
(edhyatt) - MLife

Locale: The North; UK
Grampon Bag on 02/19/2014 01:30:56 MST Print View

I use the soda-bottle trick with KTS or one of these with my more aggressive spikes:

http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/Winter-Climbing-Equipment/Crampons/Crampon-Accessories/Crampon-Bag-CLT-CRAMPBAG#.UwRrW_l_t5I

Whether or not you can get them in the US.....

edvin mellergård
(Edvin) - F
Update on 02/19/2014 09:58:32 MST Print View

Here's my "updated" recommendation, a simple 500D cordura drawstring bag. I made two of these at the beginning of this season, weight 40 grams.

I can just fit my standard ice rack in them, 11 BD icescrews and 3 Grivel 360. Grivel Helix or similar screws would not fit so good thanks to their large handle and hanger.

My crampons(Petzl Lynx) fit with a bit of room left over, I can get a couple of icescrews in there aswell if I'm only bringing a few with me.

cramponbag1

scramponbag2

These work really well, the cordura is strong enough to withstand the crampons(atleast my slightly dull ones!) and it's really convenient to just chuck all the icescrew tip protectors in the bag while I'm climbing

YAMABUSHI !
(THUNDERHORSE) - F
... on 02/23/2014 20:49:49 MST Print View

Crampon Case

1.7 OZ

Edited by THUNDERHORSE on 02/23/2014 20:50:46 MST.

Mitch Chesney
(MChesney) - F
Re: Update on 03/19/2014 11:35:30 MDT Print View

Hey Edvin, that's a great little bag! I was about to ask if you'd make me one when I found this: http://www.skywall-clothing.de/EN/Gear/Gear.php although it's a little hassle having to xfer money to his bank without a PayPal or ecommerce cart system. Anyways, kudos for that idea; I'm going to try that. May I recommend sharpening those points in the meantime? :) Seems a little dull for ice

Yes 1000
(mamamia) - F
Crampon Bag on 04/15/2014 19:24:41 MDT Print View

I just ordered this bag

http://www.skywall-clothing.de/DE/Ausruestung/Ausruestung.php

edvin mellergård
(Edvin) - F
Re: Re: Update on 04/17/2014 11:49:37 MDT Print View

Great mind think alike I guess :) It really is the best solution out there IMO if you want a crampon or ice screw bag. I made a few for some friends a while back and they seem to like it too :) Got a few left over in case somebody wants one. Black in 500d Cordura or yellow, blue or gray-greenish in 420d packcloth. 10.5 Euro including international shipping.

btw. the crampons are sharper now :)

Edited by Edvin on 04/17/2014 11:53:54 MDT.