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Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Gear Deals Website on 10/31/2013 21:52:22 MDT Print View

I would like some feedback on this to see if there is a need/want..

I have been thinking of doing a gear deals website since I always have outside vendors asking me if I would like to buy and sell their products. I was thinking of doing something like Steep and Cheap but only one deal at a time and until it sells out and free shipping. Not something new every so many minutes or days. Basically only as gear deals present themselves. I would put them on the website, send out an email, and then when they sell out they are gone.

For instance I have an opportunity to pick up some more mini carabiners. I was thinking I could start off with those as my first "deal" 10 for $10 with free shipping like before.

The next "deal" could be the Sawyer Mini.....

So who's interested?

Pierre Descoteaux
(Pierre) - MLife
Deals Website on 10/31/2013 21:57:13 MDT Print View

Who could I say no to better prices? I'm a definite gear geek but in too many case the shipping to Canada kills my buying capabilities. I'm not suggesting free shipping to Canada but at least a reasonable price would be nice. The Clymb won't even ship up here!!!
Cheers
Pierre

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Interesting on 10/31/2013 22:19:47 MDT Print View

One more thought. My idea isn't to have one of those flash sale sites with the only intention of selling useless crap or stuff you don't need. This would be more so for gear that you want and are going to buy anyway. I would just be giving you a good deal for helping me to buy it in larger qty's and not having to hold the inventory for long periods of time. So think of it more so like a group buy. Well kind of.

As far as cheap international shipping goes. I could do it if the demand was big enough.

Travis W
(lobopac) - F

Locale: Central Valley, CA
Re: Gear Deals Website on 10/31/2013 23:31:36 MDT Print View

So far I'm very interested in the first two deals, so I say go for it.

And E
(LunchANDYnner) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
fun idea on 10/31/2013 23:45:35 MDT Print View

That sounds like a fun idea. The free shipping part is great, as SAC kills me with their shipping price on some of there smaller items.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Gear Deals Website on 11/01/2013 02:45:10 MDT Print View

Hi Lawson

Very tricky stuff.
> mini carabiners. I could start off with those as my first "deal" 10 for $10
eBay - set of 12 for under $3, free postage.

You will be up against the Chinese a lot of the time. Not easy.

Cheers

Mike Muralt
(mmuralt) - M
Yes on 11/01/2013 07:25:41 MDT Print View

We all love good deals!

David Williams
(ddwbeagles) - F

Locale: Stephens City, VA
Feedback on 11/01/2013 08:23:20 MDT Print View

Agreed, it's going to be tough to be price competitive, but I think you're onto something with the email feature. I don't do Steep and Cheap as I simply hate checking their site 100 times a day. My other advise would be (and this may be your niche) focus on deals for the high end stuff. That doesn't mean expensive stuff, but high quality gear deals. I think you have a pretty good audience in here. Good luck.

Ryan Bressler
(ryanbressler) - F
Re: Gear Deals Website on 11/01/2013 08:40:33 MDT Print View

I think there is definitely room for another gear deal website though I do wonder about keeping prices low with high end/non clearance stuff.

Maybe some sort of "vote on the next deal" or even prepurchase would help you more accurately gauge demand and keep the whole thing more efficient.

It would also be really interesting to include some MYOG supplies that are hard to source in small quantities. Ie if you had a roll or two of double sided TPU coated urethane packraft fabric made.

J J
(jraiderguy) - M

Locale: Puget Sound
Interested on 11/01/2013 08:50:38 MDT Print View

I'm interested. My current approach to buying smaller items is to wait for a good price by checking gearscan.com or cleansnipe.com (they aggregate deals from S&C type sites)or to just wait until I need a handful of items and lump them together. If you had a way of letting people know what was in the pipeline, I could see it being something I'd definitely check before making a gear purchase.

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
Re: Re: Gear Deals Website on 11/01/2013 09:17:12 MDT Print View

As Roger Caffin wrote, many chinese websites ship for free and sell items for dimes, and they still make profit(?)

However, for me, I don't trust my credit card number, personal information with those Chinese websites. Also with free shipping from Hong Kong, deliveries are usually 6 to 12 weeks (yikes) I think they sell the product before they acquire it, and wait till they have enough pre-paid orders before they place the order with the manufacturer for a bulk buy.

For me, I trust my credit card number/order with Lawson, even though I could save $2 elsewhere. Identity theft and credit card fraud with a Chinese website is not worth the mini discount for me.

So Lawson, I believe your reputation is your advantage. I'd be interested in your email list/website plan.

Edited by RogerDodger on 11/01/2013 09:19:44 MDT.

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: Re: Re: Gear Deals Website on 11/01/2013 09:56:21 MDT Print View

"Maybe some sort of "vote on the next deal" or even prepurchase would help you more accurately gauge demand and keep the whole thing more efficient.

It would also be really interesting to include some MYOG supplies that are hard to source in small quantities. Ie if you had a roll or two of double sided TPU coated urethane packraft fabric made."

+1

Really like the above idea/advice. Let your buyers help pre guide you. There are a lot of fabrics for example, that i would love to get, but can't because you have to buy in bulk.

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - F

Locale: Grand Canyon State
Re: Gear Deals Website on 11/01/2013 10:59:57 MDT Print View

Lawson, it sounds like this is worth a try -- at least as a "pilot program", since that would keep the cost fairly low for you, and give you a chance to see how things work out -- one product at a time!

While I do buy Chinese stuff once in a while when I can't find what I want at a reasonable price (a ti spoon, most recently), the wait times are not always convenient (I use PayPal, so I don't worry about credit card numbers), and if your clearance price was reasonable, I would rather buy domestic.

Another advantage you would have over the Chinese stuff is that you would be vetting the products first (I'm assuming that the suppliers would be willing to provide you with a sample), which would avoid getting a really awful product when ordering from photos along. And that's got to be worth something to buyers!

TAG in AZ
(tagiam) - MLife

Locale: PHX
Preorder? on 11/01/2013 15:08:43 MDT Print View

I'd even be willing to preorder to get a good deal on some things. That way, you would have a rough idea of how much of something that you would sell.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Re: Re: Gear Deals Website on 11/01/2013 15:17:48 MDT Print View

> I don't trust my credit card number, personal information with those Chinese websites.
Me neither!!!!
I use Paypal. That way they get zero financial info. I have to give them my postal address, but that applies anywhere.

> Also with free shipping from Hong Kong, deliveries are usually 6 to 12 weeks
Usually a bit less than that in my experience.

Cheers

Lawson Kline
(Mountainfitter) - M

Locale: LawsonEquipment.com
Thanks : ) on 11/01/2013 21:46:46 MDT Print View

Thanks for all the feedback.

I hear you on checking SAC. I think the email is the key. BUT not too often as then it would be annoying and spam like. Finding the deals is going to be the hard part. But if I know that they will sell and I have ALOT of customers signed up to the "newsletter" then I will take the gamble. I also like the idea of voting on the next deal since then their would be less risk. But I am not sure how I will be able to implement that. Maybe some kind of revolving survey or something like that. I am working on getting my cord back instock. Maybe I can start off by having a sale with that : ) Then onto the mini carabiners, then the Sawyer Mini's. And maybe one last run of my 1/8" insulite foam pads. If there are any other products you guys would be interested in let me know so I see what kind of deal I can do.

Thanks again : )

Steven Adeff
(TinCanFury) - F

Locale: Boston
sounds like woot.com for the backpacker set on 11/04/2013 09:27:44 MST Print View

I like the idea, it's worked well for Woot (they've got something like 5 specialty sites now).

As mentioned by others, you can get some cheap price/cheap made stuff on ebay from the Chinese, so I would still, as a seller, do some research into what is worth the price for you to sell.