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Jeff Jeff
(TwoFortyJeff) - F
Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee on 10/27/2013 16:42:06 MDT Print View

Has anyone had any experience with the Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee?

I noticed they are offering a GoreTex-like guarantee on the performance of their DryQ Elite garments. Has anyone had to use this to get a refund or am I going to be SOL if they are clammy and leaky?

Of course I hope they perform as advertised, but the extra lining material and non-taped seams make me a little skeptical. Still I am willing to give them a shot based on the reviews.

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear) - M
Re: Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee on 10/27/2013 17:36:01 MDT Print View

No experience so far, but my understanding is that it's basically eVent with their own combo of face/shell and lining fabrics.

Odd that it's not taped seams. Are they otherwise seam sealed? If they use a liquid spread on type seam sealer, it might not be obvious to the eye.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
DryQ Elite on 10/27/2013 17:41:21 MDT Print View

My DryQ Elite jacket (MH Quasar) has taped seams.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
Re: Re: Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee on 10/27/2013 18:02:42 MDT Print View

Welded seams are sometimes used on the highend WPB jackets to reduce weight.

Jeff Jeff
(TwoFortyJeff) - F
Re: Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee on 10/27/2013 19:04:40 MDT Print View

In this case it's a pair of shell pants. The full side zips use a storm flap, but they are not taped and they are not of the water resistant variety.

They also have a nylon lining that is sewn to the face fabric/laminate instead of sandwiched like most eVent and GoreTex backers. Hopefully the rest of the seams are sealed? Unfortunately you can't see them due to this nylon lining.

You can read all the interviews and press releases to make your own determination about if this is eVent or not. I'm not concerned with that as long as they perform just as well or better. If they fall short, I want to make sure I'm not out $175.

Dustin Short
(upalachango) - MLife
Re: Re: Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee on 10/27/2013 21:23:58 MDT Print View

Which pants are you talking about, that construction sounds odd for MHW? Also if you buy from REI or Backcountry.com they have great guarantees regardless of manufacturer (although REI has dropped to one year).

Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - M

Locale: NW Montana
Re: Re: Re: Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite guarantee on 10/27/2013 21:25:41 MDT Print View

FYI, Backcountry dropped to one year too. They did the same day REI announced their change, just without an announcement or any fanfare. In fact, you wouldn't know it changed unless you read really closely in the fine print.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Hmmmm... on 10/28/2013 12:46:22 MDT Print View

My experience tierh MH "breathable waterproof membranes" has been very poor. Might as well wear kitchen ruber gloves. And the MH rep I talked to at a trade show steadfastly denied ANY problems with ther membrane. NOT good.

But I've never tried their new Dry Q Elite products. You may want to wait awhile to see how other "early adopters" fare with it.

To me MH has had a spotty record for good products. I once bought their "Phantom 32" down bag and when I got it home was sorely disappointed with the lack of loft. I returned it unused to REI and got a Western Mountaineering Megalite. Now THAT is a geat bag. More money to be sure but excellent loft and warmth.

Woubeir (from Europe)
(Woubeir) - F - MLife
Re: Event-like on 10/28/2013 15:46:14 MDT Print View

DQ Elite is simply Event + MHW's fabrics (100 % sure; it's in the GE presskit from a few years ago).

Edited by Woubeir on 10/28/2013 16:56:07 MDT.