A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent
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Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 08:35:31 MDT Print View

About 4 years ago our old Vango car camping tent got thrashed on a site in the Vosge Mountains in France and we had to get a new one and so I got tasked with finding a new home away from home.

My wife's requirements where:

At least 4 person
Have decent height
Plenty of storage space,

My requirements

Handle 40mph winds (any stronger than that we would be heading home or to a hotel)
Pitch in 5 minutes
Bright enough to pick out among hundreds of other tents at big Europeam music festivals.

After much resarch we settled on the marmot Halo 4p, we probaly have about 40 nights in it now and wife calls in Chateau Marmot, we are very impressed with it.

Unfortunately I don't have any pics of it to hand but "acquired" some from Google images.

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Edited by stephenm on 10/26/2013 08:53:05 MDT.

Tim Zen
(asdzxc57) - F

Locale: MI
Re: A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 08:52:01 MDT Print View

Wow! You could put cots in there!

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 08:55:05 MDT Print View

Yep, cots would definitley fit.

Charles P
(mediauras)

Locale: Terra
Re: Re: Re: A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 09:23:46 MDT Print View

We have the same tent for family car camping (there's 4 of us). I love it! Man, its huge but with a low profile, well made and bomber, and I really like the light it produces. Its gorgeous in the morning.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 09:30:56 MDT Print View

It sure is a nice tent, I bought it in Uk so it cost about 350$ at the time and worth every penny.
We have often camped in strong winds when other car camping tents are getting hammered and the Halo is solid as a rock.

I like that he side ventilation slots can be zipped up if breezy, I think it has about 5 foot of head room which is not bad at all.

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Life on the Road on 10/26/2013 10:11:54 MDT Print View

Neat! My home away from home is a lot smaller (my car is a bike).

I was all over hammocks, but having your own "room" is something I find to be quite comfortable and worth sleeping on the ground for. Most of the time.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Life on the Road on 10/26/2013 10:16:12 MDT Print View

I would like to try some bike camping trips at some stage, we would probaly use a Golite Sl3 or Tarp Tent Ss1 for that purpose but my wife sure does love the space in our Hilleberg Kaitum 3 and probaly would insist it comes with us.

:-)

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Life on the Road on 10/26/2013 10:30:44 MDT Print View

Max, you just need a bigger tarp with end doors to go with your hammock. You can pole out one side for "porch mode" or tuck it all in for privacy.

We have a big Eureka 9x12 tent for car camping. A big tent is great when you can leave it up for a few days. We had a monster Coleman dome tent years ago that we had great road trips with. We had a huge mattress and used crates for stowing gear in my pickup. It was our dome way from home :)

We used an MSR Missing Link this summer and were very happy with that, but no standing room. Plenty of storage space and a spot for the dog too. The single skin design is quick to set up and takes up little room in the car.

Justin McCabe
(justinmc)

Locale: Southern California
Re: A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 10:34:13 MDT Print View

I absolutely love our REI Basecamp 6 (they also have an 8 person). The vestibule isn't as robust as the Marmot, but has always been adequate for us (plus I add a tarp over the vestibule anyways). The walls appear slightly less vertical, so if your Marmot held up to the wind, this definitely will.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Re: A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 11:32:19 MDT Print View

Its definitely good in the wind for its size and shape but if possible I try to pitch one of the ends in to the wind as the porches are far more aerodynamic.

Dale Wambaugh
(dwambaugh) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Re: A home away home, a search for a new car camping tent on 10/26/2013 12:26:48 MDT Print View

I would look for a tent with a rainfly that reaches as close to the ground as possible and has extra guy line options about halfway up the sides. Those features will help in the wind. Doors in the fly that can be completely zipped up will help too.

For hot summer use, you want big doors and windows for good flow-through ventilation.

I like pole clips vs sleeves. Getting the tent erected is the challenge and the main event is getting the second pole in place and pulling the tent fabric up in place. Tents that have arched poles that hold the fly up over the doors are easier to set up than ones with one pole that runs across the top. The other main event is getting the fly up over the erected tent inner--- they can slide off and be a slapstick comedy routine for one person to accomplish until a couple corners are secured.

hwc 1954
(wcollings) - M
Marmot Halo 4 -- me too on 10/26/2013 12:58:51 MDT Print View

I also have a Marmot Halo 4 for car camping. Picked it up on sale for $299 in the US. It's been awesome so far. Big, 8 foot by 8 foot square. Fully guy'd out, it's really stable for a 3-season car camping tent. The dome shape and the beefy 12mm DAC poles help.

Easy for one person to set up and take down. Great ventilation and, on cold nights, I appreciate being able to zip closed the ground level vents that run along two opposite sides. The roof vents in the fly are one of the big reasons I bought this tent.

I can confirm that there is room for cots. I have used a large Cabelas cot in mine. Although, if you were always camping with two cots, I'd probably get the bigger 6P version of the tent.

Here are couple of photos of mine. These were taken just as the sun was coming up, so the camera flash lit up the reflective logos:

Marmot Halo 4 camping

Marmot Halo 4

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Marmot Halo 4 -- me too on 10/26/2013 13:41:11 MDT Print View

Nice pics, I agree about the 6pm, if I was to do it again I would go for that one but no big deal.

The poles are very sturdy.

hwc 1954
(wcollings) - M
4 person is best compromise for me on 10/26/2013 15:48:24 MDT Print View

The downside of the 6 person version is that it probably isn't as wind resistant. Same poles, but a much larger profile. The 4 person version is really solid. Also, I think the 6P tent would be too large for some of the sites where I camp. Add it in the vestibules and it's a very large tent. I think it's big enough that it would be a struggle for one person to put up. Big advantage, I guess, is that you can fully stand up in the 6P.

All things considered, I think the Halo 4P is a perfect compromise for 2 person car camping, even in pretty bad weather. I've only seen one reference to the Halo 4 failing in wind: thunderstorm with hail and 60 mph wind. Tent held up OK until they unzipped the door and the wind got inside the vestibule and collapsed the tent. But, I'm not going car camping if the forecast includes storms with 60 mph wind. Or, if I did, I'd take my 4 season tent. :)

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: 4 person is best compromise for me on 10/26/2013 16:25:27 MDT Print View

That's good points on the 6p, the 4p definitely is perfect for 2 people for car camping.

I agree with you, if the forecast was that bad I would be asking a Hilleberg :-)

Desert Dweller
(Drusilla)

Locale: Wild Wild West
Car camping tent on 10/26/2013 20:30:07 MDT Print View

Our car tent. A Maggiolina from Italy. I have no business affiliations with the company, but these tents are the bomb and last for decades.
FJ with Maggiolina up
Www.autohomeus.comTent down ready for driving.

Edited by Drusilla on 10/26/2013 20:33:30 MDT.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: Car camping tent on 10/26/2013 20:34:39 MDT Print View

Nice FJ Cruiser and tent :-)

I wanted to get an FJ myself but ended up with a 4 runner instead.

Desert Dweller
(Drusilla)

Locale: Wild Wild West
Car tent on 10/26/2013 20:47:33 MDT Print View

Thank you. We have had this tent up in 60 mph winds, a tornado went over us on the North Rim of GC and it did fine. And numerous hard rain and snowstorms. It's warm and snug, there is a collapsing ladder inside that we install on the side entry. We no longer worry about bugs in bed, rattlesnakes or bears.:-) and it stays clean inside.

Edited by Drusilla on 10/26/2013 20:57:08 MDT.

BER ---
(BER) - MLife

Locale: Wisconsin
Nemo Pentalite on 10/27/2013 00:29:47 MDT Print View

Stephen,

We love our Kaitum 3 as well, but now have switched to the TT cloudburst 3 for our summer tent. Same roominess as the Kaitum 3 at half the weight. I recently picked up a Nemo Pentalite 4 with the Wedge insert here from another BPL member for car camping with our dog. Rather a steal for $300. Haven't used it yet, but have set it up in the yard and think it will work smashingly for this use. Nice height (nearly 6 feet) and lots of room for 2 plus dog. Wouldn't want to have to carry it in a backpack very far, but for the car...

I think the tipi shape will work well with winds. It has plenty of guy outs for additional support.

I love those rooftop popups, but no way am I lifting our dog up there. I don't think she'll do well on a ladder :)

Edited by BER on 10/27/2013 00:38:10 MDT.

Desert Dweller
(Drusilla)

Locale: Wild Wild West
Car camping on 10/27/2013 00:55:08 MDT Print View

Our dog sleeps in his special bed in the car.Winchester