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Jason Shaffer
(PA_Jay) - F

Locale: on the move....
Caldera Cone for BMW FireLites on 06/25/2007 13:27:36 MDT Print View

New product from Trail Designs (c/o AntiGravity Gear):
http://www.antigravitygear.com/products.php?cat=43

The Caldera stoves and the SUL FireLites seem like an ideal match.

Staff, any plans to stock these here?

David White
(davidw) - F

Locale: Midwest
Great combo -- Firelite and Caldera on 06/25/2007 17:39:23 MDT Print View

I hope the BPL stocks these. I managed to acquire the prototype of this model a few weeks ago; and I gotta say it rocks!

Excellent fit (mine is the Firelite with the handle) and excellent performance. I haven't had it on the trail yet (family emergencies and very hot/humid weather); but I hope to start using it exclusively after things cool down.

A neat trick for storing this size Caldera involves the use of a QuickTrip 32oz frozen drink cup. Trim the cup down to the height of the Caldera and it makes a sturdy, lightweight storage container that fits inside the Firelite cookpot:
Caldera Cone inside QuickTrip cup

As for multiple use, of course you have a drinking cup, as well as a measuring cup (the 1/4 mark on the QuikTrip cup equals 1 cup).

Brett .
(Brett1234) - F

Locale: CA
Caldera Cone for BMW FireLites on 06/25/2007 20:45:46 MDT Print View

I recently used a prototype of the 3 cup stove system. The cone was cleverly stored in a screw-top ziplock container which nests upside-down in the pot. Very clever use of off-the-shelf technology similar to David's idea which I will adopt for my cones.
But why should BPL stock these when you can buy them directly from AGG?

Edited by Brett1234 on 06/25/2007 20:46:16 MDT.

Nathan Moody
(atomick) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Caldera Cone for BMW FireLites on 07/13/2007 18:35:33 MDT Print View

In one day I received the FireLite SUL-500 mug and the matching Caldera Cone and its "kitchen" set. I just did some backyard testing; 75° in the shade, 12% humidity, 100' above sea level, and 5mph breeze with 14mph gusts.

With the Caldera Cone and its included stove, these conditions yielded a rolling boil after 5 minutes with 25ml of alcohol (10ml more than the manufacturer's claims). The boil lasted a solid two minutes before the fuel ran out. Similar tests with a DIY SuperCat stove yielded a rolling boil in 6 minutes on 40ml of fuel (requiring a refill)...and a SuperCat stove inside the Caldera Cone (pot sitting on the stove, not held up by the cone) created a rolling boil in 4 minutes on 30 ml of fuel, faster than the supplied 12-10 stove, but there wasn't enough capacity in a typical SuperCat to sustain the boil more than a few seconds.

All Caldera Cones are made to fit a specific pot; the fit on the SUL-500 is incredibly tight, so much so that you always have to expect to pick up the cone with the pot itself (I am using my multitool, a Leatherman Squirt P4, as a pot holder/lifter). The instructions infer that this fit will loosen over time. This isn't a huge inconvenience and all the components were cool to the touch within 120 seconds.

The fit of all the components (hint: put the stove upside down and over the lid of the fuel bottle) was quite fortiutous...







I'm a Jetboiler/FBC eater who's making the switch to alcohol...these results have me convinced! (Don't get me started on the lighting and piezo failures of the Jetboil!)

Edited by atomick on 07/13/2007 18:45:15 MDT.