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K C
(KalebC) - F

Locale: South West
BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 09:35:22 MDT Print View

I'm getting Ads popping up on this site, it this something new?

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 09:51:03 MDT Print View

If I recall correctly there is/was something associated with Gear Swap.
But they were basically in-line text.

No Pop-Ups for me ....yet...

But I do have a couple of ad-blockers running.

Link .
(annapurna) - MLife
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 10:02:28 MDT Print View

Here is what they posted on the Home page about it

22.Oct.13 Currently working on code to hide banner ads if you are logged in as an MLIFE member!

and this also is posted on Home page

22.Oct.13 Getting close to rolling our our new customer service system. Thanks for your patience!

Chad B
(CenAZwalker) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 10:03:39 MDT Print View

Yeah, I'm seeing a banner ad from some place called REI??

Dean L
(AldoLeopold) - F

Locale: Great Lakes
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 12:23:24 MDT Print View

I'm getting one for Yoplait. I never realized that yogurt makes good trail food; is it freeze dried?

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 14:36:20 MDT Print View

There were ads for a while but they disappeared; I think it's been a year now that the ads left. What they had was quite comical; if you posted about the Great Lakes an ad would pop up for a firm with "Great Lakes" in its name. I used to get quite a few chuckles just looking at the ads.

Does the "new customer servcice system" mean there will be someone besides Maia to respond to customer service issues? I have nothing against Maia; she's a truly beautiful dog! However, I don't believe she was trained to resolve service isues!

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 14:54:40 MDT Print View

The only thing I have against ads is when there's a long delay for each of several ads, uploading or whataver, during which time I can't scroll or click on buttons

Lyan Jordan
(redmonk)

Locale: Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem
BPL Ads are New and Improved ! on 10/22/2013 14:57:20 MDT Print View

new ads, not the old ads. If you are logged in as MLife, you can't appreciate the awesomeness.ads

The new ads are between the menu bar, and the content.

Edited by redmonk on 10/22/2013 14:58:05 MDT.

Dan Durston
(dandydan)

Locale: Cascadia
Ads on 10/22/2013 16:06:13 MDT Print View

I encourage everyone not to instantly jump on this as a bad thing and as a sign of BPL's impending demise.

It looks like BPL is getting ads supplied from Google. The way that it works is that both websites and advertisers sign up with google, and then Google "serves" ads to websites that seem like a good match. It would put an ad here based on the content of this site (ie. why REI ads show up) or it will put an add based on your recent search history with google (which is maybe why Yoplait came up).

So here's the upsides to this:
1) Journalistic Integrity
Since neither BPL nor the advertisers have much say in which ads appear, there is essentially no pressure on BPL to modify their content to please advertisers. The ads might be a bit cheesy, but the disconnect between advertiser and the websites means that journalistic integrity stays intact. Theoretically an advertiser could request not to be shown on this site, but Google splashes their ads on thousands of pages across the web so BPL is just a drop in the bucket to say REI's advertising budget, and thus they'd never take the time to care even if BPL did a 6 part series on why REI sucks.

2) Higher Quality Content
This is the big one. If the head honcho's at BPL can actually make a few bucks of this site, they'll be far more motivated to work on it. The reality of life is that you can't spend all your time doing fun pro-bono stuff. After years of putting a lot of work into BPL and barely making anything in return, it gets tough to stay motivated and continue to provide high quality content. If BPL can actually make some coin on these ads, it will ultimately be reflected in the quality of the content.

As an anecdote, I created a small website back in 2008 and worked on it for fun for a couple years. After a while the novelty wore off and it became tough investing the same time when I was getting little out of it. Instead of cancelling the site after 3 years, I decided to try this same program to possibly cover the costs of running a site. As it turns out, I now make a few bucks on the site. It's nothing major, but it keeps me motivated to work on it knowing that there's some beer/gear money coming out of it.

Edited by dandydan on 10/22/2013 16:07:08 MDT.

Steve G
(sgrobben) - M

Locale: Ohio
Re: Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 16:29:17 MDT Print View

Seems a bit strange to give MLife an exception but not yearly contributing members, no? I could care less about ads but for forum privileges those two membership tiers should be the same IMO.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 16:32:11 MDT Print View

+1

As a "M", I've contributed more, and will continue to do so, than a "MLife".

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 17:00:55 MDT Print View

"As a "M", I've contributed more, and will continue to do so, than a "MLife"."

So now we are pitted against one another? Like when there were scores alongside our names..

If you had bought in early you'd be free of paying now.

Run an ad block program. Problem solved. Well, that problem anyway.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 17:03:37 MDT Print View

Did you get an Mlife from that anonymous donor Ken?

Just trying to be a humourist, not being critical of anyone...

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 17:50:57 MDT Print View

"If you had bought in early you'd be free of paying now."

I don't mind 5.5 cents a day... and I'm happy to continue at that rate.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 18:24:51 MDT Print View

"As a "M", I've contributed more, and will continue to do so, than a "MLife"."

You certainly have contributed more than me, as have folks like Dave Ure, who's also been a member much longer than I have.

Ryan is close hold with info about BPL (as is his right, no complaints), so I have no idea on how many impressions he'd accumulate if he made ads invisible to M'ers as well. If there would be few people left (negating putting the ads up in the first place), then I'd be all for not excluding anyone from the ads, including MLIFERs. From Cameron's pic the ads don't seem all that intrusive, so I wouldn't be bothered by it.

Of course, I'd just as soon see the MLIFE designation go away entirely. That doesn't mean I want to be charged again - that's one 'deal' that I'd prefer BPL not try to renege on, but I think, overall, the MLIFE thing became a minor disaster - it was more fodder for promises unfulfilled than anything else. I vote for closing down that part of BPL history and moving on. Let's just have M's and F's (I know, I"m an MFer, too easy).

In concert with that, 'full' members are members, same bennies for us all. I can see continuing to separate forum only members from the rest, but that's it. There's enough pitting one group against the other in the rest of our societal dealings (as chaff has been sadly pointing out a lot lately), let's get away from it, for the most part, in BPL.

FWIW.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 18:26:27 MDT Print View

I am only a lowly "F" now and I do not see any ads. Tee hee.

Edit: they just popped up...LOL

Edited by FamilyGuy on 10/22/2013 18:31:10 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 18:29:28 MDT Print View

No Jerry, My pocket. I was lured in by all the promises that were never delivered. Leaving me bitter. I jumped on the MLife . Scratch that. I was lied to, fell for it and now am ahead. RJ gets not a dime from me anymore. Now I feel better. Only took 5 years and a day.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 18:40:32 MDT Print View

okay, maybe you're entitled to gripe : )

Steve G
(sgrobben) - M

Locale: Ohio
Re: BPL has Ads now ? on 10/22/2013 19:07:26 MDT Print View

BPL meet Adblock Plus

Not against the ads, but if MLifers aren't seeing ads then I won't be either.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Mlife on 10/22/2013 19:25:54 MDT Print View

This just reminded me that I am one of those lucky recipients of a gifted membership. Thanks.
Hopefully all my "chaffing" hasn't caused the donor to regret this..