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Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
Q.Shield on 10/18/2013 16:57:16 MDT Print View

I was talking to a customer service rep over at Mountain Hardwear and she said that the coating was to be permanent for the life of the jacket and that if the Q.Shield down failed that you should be able to return it for a replacement.

Edited by bpeugh on 10/18/2013 16:57:46 MDT.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Q.Shield on 10/18/2013 17:39:01 MDT Print View

That's good to hear,

And E
(LunchANDYnner) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
hmmmm on 10/18/2013 18:42:25 MDT Print View

If that's true, that'd be cool. I was talking to one of the sales people at the MH store in Seattle last weekend, asking him about their new Thermal.Q synthetic insulation and their claims that it's 15% warmer than the leading synthetic... I asked for the Clo of the fill per square meter and he told me 1.67. I call shenanigans as that's The same as 800 FP down. Those numbers would be making headlines if true. I think he might have been giving the total Clo of the jacket, but I don't think he knew the difference as he didn't understand why I was skeptical of his claims.

Edited by LunchANDYnner on 10/18/2013 18:43:09 MDT.

Jim Couch
(JBC) - M

Locale: Cascade Mountains
Thermal Q clo = 1.47 on 10/18/2013 18:50:19 MDT Print View

Probably referring to the jacket or a mistake. I am pretty sure the clo on the Thermal Q is 1.47.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F - M
Re: Thermal Q clo = 1.47 on 10/18/2013 19:44:54 MDT Print View

thats for the 60g ... not clo/oz/sqyd

so its not apples to apples

everyone claims they have the best synth insulation .. the problem is differentiating between the marketing spiel and whats real

;)

Edited by bearbreeder on 10/19/2013 05:21:08 MDT.

Woubeir (from Europe)
(Woubeir) - F - MLife
Re: Re: Thermal Q clo on 10/19/2013 04:57:59 MDT Print View

So I come to a clo/oz/yd2 of 0,82 to 0,93.

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: Re: Thermal Q clo on 10/19/2013 07:05:10 MDT Print View

Apex is specd at 0.82 clo/oz/yd2 - that's probably the leading insulation

Primaloft One is 0.92

I've never seen any numbers for down but I measured 850FP down at 1.3 and 1.6 clo/oz/yd2

Taylor Boudreau
(Pippopdew)
Re: Q.Shield on 10/20/2013 19:38:44 MDT Print View

The Q.Shield Down is currently supplied from DownTek, simply rebranded. so I would expect similar performance and life.

Brett Peugh
(bpeugh) - F - M

Locale: Midwest
Q.Shield on 10/21/2013 09:00:45 MDT Print View

Well that is nice of Mountain Hardwear to guarantee it as the coating is only supposed to last 10-20 washings.