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Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
Desperately need vegan or vegetarian Lunch ideas on 10/05/2013 20:11:17 MDT Print View

I have recently developed a stomach problem that prevents me from eating anything fatty or acidic so the normal hiking foods of dried beef/pork products, cheeses, nuts, nut butters, chocolate, etc.. are completely off the table for me (Which really sucks). I recently hiked in Glacier national park for 4 days covering 34 miles and probably only consumed 1200-1500 calories a day because the foods I brought disgusted me so much I just couldn't eat it which left me very weak and exhausted. I really need to find food options that are going to meet the caloric requirements of hiking, taste good and don't leave me in severe pain for 4-5 hours. I can eat things like chicken or turkey as they are low fat but since that will make up all my dinners I didn't want to eat it for lunch as well. Does anyone have vegetarian or vegan lunch ideas that would be light and fast and don't require any sort of cooking but are calorie dense?

Edited by hpoulter on 10/05/2013 20:22:17 MDT.

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: Desperately need vegan or vegetarian Lunch ideas on 10/05/2013 20:32:17 MDT Print View

Fresh bread comes to mind on day 1. Maybe store some cinnamon or very blueberry bagels at the top of your pack so they are warm for lunch?

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Desperately need vegan or vegetarian Lunch ideas on 10/05/2013 21:10:40 MDT Print View

Vegan bars could take up some of the slack. Vega makes some tasty ones.

HK Newman
(hknewman) - MLife

Locale: Western US
Re: Desperately need vegan or vegetarian Lunch ideas on 10/05/2013 21:22:03 MDT Print View

Not being able to spread olive oil or peanut butter on bread is kind of rough, ... so maybe cookies or sweet/sweetish breads that can be dipped in lukewarm tea (or drink mix). Jelly or jam spread OK?

Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/05/2013 21:26:27 MDT Print View

The problem with those bars as with most vegan/vegetarian bars/foods they rely heavily on nuts and nut butters for protein, neither of which I can eat as said in my original post. Same goes for chocolate I can't eat it at all without being in severe pain for 4-5hrs. The pain these foods cause me isn't a little bit of pain or discomfort I'm talking chest pain like your having a heart attack pain. I've found that I can eat turkey jerky but as I am sure most people have found out turkey jerky isn't very tasty.

Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/05/2013 21:29:33 MDT Print View

Jellies and jams are fine and I can eat a moderate amount of fatty foods maybe 1 or 2 ounces a day or so but I can't drink tea unless its herbal because black/green tea is too acidic. I find this whole situation incredibly frustrating but there is no cure or anything like that for it I am just stuck eating a very restricted diet for the rest of my life but I don't want it to prevent me from doing the things I love. I still run marathons, hike and do all the things I like to do I just have to get very creative with the food options and I haven't come up with anything that good on the trail yet. I tried ordering some vegan dehydrated meals for my Glacier hike last month and I couldn't stomach most of them.

Edited by hpoulter on 10/05/2013 21:31:00 MDT.

Delmar O'Donnell
(Bolster)

Locale: Between Jacinto & Gorgonio
Cereal Non-Gorp on 10/05/2013 21:34:30 MDT Print View

I don't do well with high-density fats, either. I used to be much less tolerant, but these sorts of health things often come and go, and it's possible that in a few months you'll be doing better. It's hard to take that view when you're in the middle of a health crisis, but many of these issues get better with time, or your physicians figure something out.

Regards modest fat intake, I make hybrid gorp out of breakfast cereals and dried fruit. Personally I like Quaker Oatmeal Squares as the base cereal. Can you eat dried salted soy nuts to get some protein? If so, add those for some "salty" in your non-gorp.

Like you, I can only handle so much leaf tea. It can be pretty rough on an acid-intolerant system. However the powdered iced tea (which tastes sorta like sweet bread) doesn't seem very acidic.

Edited by Bolster on 10/05/2013 21:42:06 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Desperately need vegan or vegetarian Lunch ideas on 10/05/2013 21:38:29 MDT Print View

Logan Bread

--B.G.--

Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/05/2013 21:57:33 MDT Print View

I wish this was only a temporary thing but I've seen two specialists and it's something that I will be living with. Soy nuts are a great idea.Powdered ice tea would probably be fine as its 99% fake but they usually are too sweet for me. Cereal based GORP sounds like a great idea, same goes for the Logan bread. I read a recipe on Sectionhiker.com for it but I have to test it out at home first because there appears to be 1 cup of vegetable oil in there and that stuff wreaks havoc on my stomach, unless someone has a recipe with less oil. Please keep the ideas coming. I definitely need/appreciate all the ideas.

Edited by hpoulter on 10/08/2013 10:15:16 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re on 10/05/2013 22:17:34 MDT Print View

"unless someone has a recipe with less oil"

That's why I posted the recipe.

--B.G.--

Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/05/2013 22:22:31 MDT Print View

Unless I'm missing something I don't see a recipe or a hyperlink to a recipe anywhere.

BJ Clark
(bj.clark) - MLife

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re oil in Logan bread on 10/05/2013 22:32:27 MDT Print View

You might try applesauce to replace a fair amount of the oil. We do that with a variety of different breads. Haven't tried it with Logan bread but now I will. How about some kind of bean spread and tortillas? Or apple butter? Hummus?

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re on 10/05/2013 22:34:02 MDT Print View

"Unless I'm missing something I don't see a recipe or a hyperlink to a recipe anywhere."

Do a BPL search for "Logan" and see what's there.

I get asked this about once per year here.

--B.G.--

Bill Segraves
(sbill9000) - F - M
Re: Re soy nuts on 10/06/2013 06:21:21 MDT Print View

I recommend testing the soy nuts out in advance. I don't know of any food that's tougher on stomachs, at least among people I know.

Best,

Bill S.

David Noll
(dpnoll) - MLife

Locale: Maroon Bells
vegan recipes on 10/06/2013 06:43:28 MDT Print View

This article by Mike Clelland is really good. Just don't take his advise on tp.

ww.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/quick_healthy_meals_with_an_ultralight_cook_kit#.UlFaZVN21dw

Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/06/2013 08:22:44 MDT Print View

Thanks Bob I found it. I'll give it a go this week if I have time. That article looks interesting and the more people link to articles on BPL it makes me realize I need to take the plunge and just buy a subscription. I had a subscription to Backpacker magazine and as most of you note on here its a complete joke of a magazine now. BPL is a much better resource. Please keep the recipe and food ideas coming. I truly appreciate it.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re on 10/06/2013 09:26:19 MDT Print View

"That article looks interesting and the more people link to articles on BPL it makes me realize I need to take the plunge and just buy a subscription."

I have no idea what you mean. What article?

--B.G.--

Heath Poulter
(hpoulter) - F

Locale: Southwest
re on 10/06/2013 09:37:00 MDT Print View

The one that David linked to. I have all the ingredients for your Logan bread recipe and plan on making it later today. Thanks

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: re on 10/06/2013 09:43:23 MDT Print View

I would hope that you can find one oil that is acceptable in your diet. How do you feel about olive oil? Also, as others have pointed out, some recipes use either applesauce or pureed banana to substitute for part of the oil. Most recipes like this are simply the starting point, and they must be adapted to your own diet.

Also, since the ingredients are mostly carbohydrates, you do not get the dense calorie packing as compared to fats.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: Re on 10/06/2013 10:16:41 MDT Print View

I have no idea what you mean. What article?

--B.G.--


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