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Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Gram Weinie Stove Heineken Pot on 06/20/2007 10:44:35 MDT Print View

I used my benchtop spot welder to weld some stainless steel wire into a potstand to be used in conjunction with a Heineken Pot. I boiled two cups of water in 12 min. 1/2 ounce of denatured alcohol. The burner is made of two anodised aluminum tins purchased at local asian food store. Tins are pressed together to form open flame style burner. Fuel absorbing material used inside to control vaporization rate of fuel. That material was aquired from a friend of a friend that works at the Origo factory in Sweden. Origo makes alcohol stoves for marine applications.

Burner weighs 3.5 grams-----Potstand weighs 3.0 grams
potstand
heiny on stand

Steve .
(pappekak) - F

Locale: Tralfamadore
Re: Gram Weinie Stove Heineken Pot on 06/20/2007 11:06:06 MDT Print View

Zelph, I like that stand better than mine.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
G.W. Heine stand on 06/20/2007 11:16:04 MDT Print View

Lovely. I assume, Dan, that the stand "travels" inside the Heinie pot for storage?

Michael Crosby
(djjmikie) - MLife

Locale: Ky
Heine stand on 06/20/2007 13:32:50 MDT Print View

Flame distribution looks good. What is the height of the stand?

John Kays
(johnk) - M

Locale: SoCal
Re: Gram Weinie Stove Heineken Pot on 06/20/2007 14:01:49 MDT Print View

I've seen the stove but haven't been able to locate the instructions to build it. Is is possible you could post them or provide a link to the directions. Thanks! Great set-up.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Gram Weinie Stove Heineken Pot on 06/20/2007 16:17:55 MDT Print View

Steve: Your stove looks pretty stable. Did you get the 1 inch high, low profile one in the mail? How do I go about embedding a link into a word like you did with the word MINE

Kevin: Yes, it fits inside real easy. Could be stretched out flat also and then reshaped.

Michael: The potstand is 1 1/2 inches high. It used to be 2 inches high.

John: Take a look at this thread to see the stove from the very begginig. It'll give some ideas how I made the original: It's called the TwiLyte stove. http://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21962

Edited by zelph on 06/20/2007 16:21:02 MDT.

Steve .
(pappekak) - F

Locale: Tralfamadore
Re: Re: Re: Gram Weinie Stove Heineken Pot on 06/20/2007 16:55:15 MDT Print View

Dan, yes I did get receive it. Thanks for the quick shipment. Will give you feedback once I try it out and the the tealight in the field.

For links I use tinyurl.com to get a shortened url. I often have problems with BPL throwing away longer urls hence tinyurl.com

Then typed the following HTML

<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yr47bo">mine</a>

Edited by pappekak on 06/20/2007 17:03:55 MDT.

Jason Klass
(jasonklass) - F

Locale: Parker, CO
Stand on 06/20/2007 18:04:50 MDT Print View

Nice job as always Zelph! Would you say it's just as stable as a typical hardware-cloth stand?

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Re: Re: Gram Weinie Stove Heineken Pot on 06/20/2007 21:03:05 MDT Print View

Steve: Thank You for the posting info. I'm learning as I go. I know very little about computers. I'm trying to learn HTML as of yesterday. Not enough time in the day. My daughter wants to help me do a web site, not enough time in a day.

Jason: I'd say it's as stable as hardware cloth if the harware cloth is formed into the same configurationas what you see in the photo. Stable being able to support the pot containing 2 cups of water in a steady fashion. 1/2 inch hardware cloth would certainly be stronger than the stainless steel one in terms of compression. 2 cups of water is what we want to support. This potstand works just fine for 2 cups of water. This is a gram weinie setup, 6.5 grams for a stove. The burner will absorb 1/2 ounce of fuel and will not spill out if accidentally tipped over. Because it is designed having wick material on the surface of the burner will make it easy to light in freezing weather conditions.

Steve Galchutt
(s2ranch@gmail.com) - F

Locale: Eastern slope of CO Rockies
Stainless steel? on 06/21/2007 06:09:23 MDT Print View

Bench spot welder? Sounds like a handy tool! Does welding stainless steel require a different setup from generic steel welding?

Nice work Dan!

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Stainless steel? on 06/21/2007 13:16:10 MDT Print View

Steve: It's the same setup. I've welded .003 stainless sheet with it, works nice. I purchased the welder at Harbor Freight Tools. Got it just to work with stainless to make stoves. Aluminum pot stands just don't hold up to the high heat generated by flames passing around the support columns. Hot dipped galvanized hardware cloth gets crusty and dog-eared looking after continued use. Electroplated zinc hardware cloth begins to rust within a short length of time. Stainless steel is nice!!!

Here is a photo ofmine purchased at a local store.

Edited by zelph on 09/19/2009 19:48:18 MDT.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
SS Pot stands on 06/21/2007 13:27:51 MDT Print View

Dan, have you considered making up a few of these stands for sale to BPL members?
Just asking. I'd be interested.

Edited by kdesign on 06/21/2007 13:28:34 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: SS Pot stands on 06/21/2007 13:50:01 MDT Print View

Kevin: I had not considered it prior to posting this thread. After reading your post I did ponder the thought for a moment. I said hey!!! what the heck, why not, Nothing Ventured Nothing Gained. Yes I'll make some up for BPL members after I have put the welded joints through some quality control tests to make sure they hold up well enough before making them available. I'll let everyone know the results of my testing as soon as I can.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
SS Pot stands---test to destruction. on 06/21/2007 13:52:51 MDT Print View

Cool, Dan! We await the results of the quality control tests. :-)

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Re: SS Pot stands on 06/21/2007 14:15:26 MDT Print View

I might be in for a pot stand. I keep telling myself to go to Lowe's and make my own but alas I'm far too lazy.
Any idea how well it works with a Fosters can? I suppose I could make a sacrifice and pick up a Heiny can but I'd have to find someone to drink it (can't stand beer).
I'm with Kevin, can't wait to see the test results. A video of any catastrophic failures would be greatly appreciated!

Adam

Steve .
(pappekak) - F

Locale: Tralfamadore
Re: Re: Re: SS Pot stands on 06/21/2007 14:30:43 MDT Print View

Adam, go to Jerry Baker's website and use the beer to make one of his tonics for your lawn/garden. They work well if you use them regularly as suggested. Slugs also will go for Heineken (they have poor taste in beer).

Me? I just drink it down and think about the great time I had in Amsterdam during the Queen's Day street party :)

Edited by pappekak on 06/21/2007 14:41:36 MDT.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
Heine beer/ Foster's -----is that the best we can find for our raw materials? on 06/21/2007 14:51:22 MDT Print View

Dam-n, I wish some of the Micro-brewers would can some of their bounty. Ditto beer for slug control---it works with our voracious PNW specimans.

Edited by kdesign on 06/21/2007 14:52:32 MDT.

Adam Rothermich
(aroth87) - F

Locale: Missouri Ozarks
Re: Re: SS Pot stands on 06/21/2007 15:23:34 MDT Print View

Unfortunately I live in an apartment. Even though my parents own them I still don't have much need for garden/lawn bug control. Ironically, my dad is also in the landscaping/lawn maintenance business.
Maybe I'll just suck it up and drink it. I've got a 6 pack of Bud Select in my fridge that no one will drink too. (Was 'forced' upon me at the last day of trail work I went to. One of the guys worked for A-B and had a bunch of extra that he shared and what kind of college student passes up free alcohol?)

Adam

Edited by aroth87 on 06/21/2007 15:24:27 MDT.

kevin davidson
(kdesign) - F

Locale: Mythical State of Jefferson
Unwanted swill. on 06/21/2007 15:42:02 MDT Print View

Adam, just bring that unwanted 6 pack to the next BYOB party you go to and abandon it. :-)>

Steve .
(pappekak) - F

Locale: Tralfamadore
Re: Unwanted swill. on 06/21/2007 15:53:11 MDT Print View

I hid some Harley Beer in a kitchen cabinet once during a "Tacky Party."

Or you could give it to a homeless person. I'm sure they could use a beer or six.