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Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Winter Socks- VBL or WPB? on 09/30/2013 20:03:44 MDT Print View

Ok, so I'm about geared and ready for winter bike touring, but keeping my feet warm is something I kind of rushed. I want to check what I'm using right now and see about a replacement if need be. I'm using Mavic Rush MTB cycling shoes, which have mesh over the toes, so basic wool socks get really cold from windchill if I'm coasting.

Right now:

I'm using Stephenson's Warmlite VBL Socks (http://warmlite.com/vapor-barrier-clothing). I am going to be biking hard, so I'm definitely going to sweat. I am worried these will be bathtubs.


Potential Replacement:

I see Borah Gear makes WPB socks on the cheap. Will Gore-Tex or similar socks do the trick?


Would love someone to explain to me exactly how Stephensons Warmlites are expected to behave, but also open to any other suggestions.

Thanks!

-M

Edited by mdilthey on 09/30/2013 20:04:22 MDT.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Overboots on 09/30/2013 20:58:58 MDT Print View

For winter cycling just wear warm overboots and you'll be fine.

VBLs are definitely not called for in this situation.

Even as a Nordic (XC) skier I only wore overboots on my uninsulated XC boots on very cold days. Like a cyclist whose feet are not on the ground my feet were standing on foam filled skis.

Edited by Danepacker on 09/30/2013 21:08:31 MDT.

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: Winter Socks- VBL or WPB? on 09/30/2013 21:10:18 MDT Print View

nm

Edited by ArcturusBear on 09/30/2013 21:11:44 MDT.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Winter Socks- VBL or WPB? on 09/30/2013 21:22:05 MDT Print View

I wonder how those borah gear socks hold up compared to the rocky goretex socks?

Max Dilthey
(mdilthey) - M

Locale: MaxTheCyclist.com
Feet are Still Cold on 09/30/2013 21:27:53 MDT Print View

Can't find a Borah sock review anywhere.

At any rate, my feet do get prohibitively cold. Fact. Remember, I'm cycling for 8-12 hours a day.

Last winter I only biked less than 5 miles at a time, and when it was real cold, I wore boots. I've never toured in the winter. Also, i've yet to use the VBL socks and can't test yet (not cold).

Overboots are really heavy. It's like me asking for UL gaiters and you recommend "just get the full calf gore-tex cordura ones." Not trying to be snotty, I just want to clarify that i'd prefer an UL solution to overboots, but i'm sure they work.

Also, I've never skied, so the analogy isn't a guarantee for me. They could be apples and oranges, I just don't know.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Feet are Still Cold on 09/30/2013 21:38:50 MDT Print View

"Would love someone to explain to me exactly how Stephensons Warmlites are expected to behave"

According to Stephenson - once sensible sweat begins the skin will shut down the "sweat mechanism" and that equilibrium will be maintained.

Is that really how it works, or is that Stephenson's hype? I don't know.

But I do know that I have spent many days snowshoeing in liner-socks/bread-bags/thick-wool-socks/neoprene-socks/trail-runners and NOT poured water out of the bread bags. My feet are damp, but not "pruned".

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: Re: Feet are Still Cold on 09/30/2013 21:45:08 MDT Print View

Greg, do you ever combine Wool liners with thicker Polypro? If so, how do you like the combo?

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: Feet are Still Cold on 09/30/2013 21:51:48 MDT Print View

Nope.

I'm a synthetic guy.

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Feet are Still Cold on 09/30/2013 22:07:59 MDT Print View

Ok, thought you might have tried it since you mentioned using "thick wool socks" earlier. I'm a synthetic or natural guy depending, and overall i find i like combos the most. Thank you for the reply.

Edited by ArcturusBear on 09/30/2013 22:22:15 MDT.

Daniel Pittman
(pitsy) - M

Locale: Central Texas
Re: Winter Socks- VBL or WPB? on 09/30/2013 22:10:02 MDT Print View

Max, I've always had a problem with cold feet, and cycling just makes it worse. I think it's a combination of things. Tight cycling shoes cutting off circulation, and wind-chill on sweaty feet are the biggest culprits.

Run your shoes as loose as you can tolerate without excess slippage (don't want blisters), and get some windproof booties. I have some Quintana Roo TT booties that fit well over my Sidi Dominators. Combined with a thin wool blend sock and some wool knickers my lower body stays pretty warm.