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Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 09/30/2013 15:49:50 MDT Print View

Since I am a happy Steripen user, I've been wanting a lighter 1 liter wide-mouth bottle ...so I ordered one of the new "ultralites", and my kitchen scale says:

Ultralight Nalgene - 3.5 oz
Regular Nalgene - 6.3 oz.

So, a bit of a weight savings...I'll take it! For some mysterious reason, I did not find the product weight on Nalgene's website, and REI

Rafi Harzahav
(rhz10) - F

Locale: SF Bay Area
Nalgene Wide-Mouth Cantene on 09/30/2013 16:03:34 MDT Print View

Why not try this at 2oz?

http://www.rei.com/product/670588/nalgene-wide-mouth-cantene-32-fl-oz

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
RE: Nalgene Wide-Mouth Cantene on 09/30/2013 16:18:24 MDT Print View

Thanks, Rafi -- also a good alternative (I should have mentioned I was looking for a hard-sided bottle).

I think there is room for both types, depending on what you're looking for...

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 09/30/2013 16:31:08 MDT Print View

Gatorade bottle? I found that my steripen worked if I filled the gatorate bottle to the very top, just enough so that the sensor would touch.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 09/30/2013 16:32:10 MDT Print View

I assume you are speaking of the narrow mouth 32oz made from HDPE plastic? My understanding is that HDPE bottles can get pretty foul with use as they retain odors and flavors.

I have two 32oz wide mouth glow bottles for Winter season. With thin neoprene insulating sleeve and biner clip they weigh 229g (~8oz) each. Wish I could cut some weight with these using the canteen bag but they don't do well in freezing temps.

Edited by rmjapan on 09/30/2013 16:53:28 MDT.

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 09/30/2013 16:42:39 MDT Print View

Do you have a link for a website that has the "Ultralite" Nalgenes? There are a bunch out there advertising them as ultralight but it's not clear if it's actually a different product than the standard Nalgenes.

I use a 16 oz Nalgene for treating water with a Steripen. I've been told that 16oz plastic Snapple bottles fit a Steripen Freedom and I've been keeping an eye out for them, but haven't run across one yet. The 16oz Gatorade ones don't, but the 32oz do.

EDIT: Are the "Ultralite" ones the old style bottles which are kind of milky / not transparent and are not rigid like the new clear bottles?

Edited by andrew.f on 09/30/2013 16:48:35 MDT.

Jeremy B.
(requiem) - F - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 09/30/2013 17:39:15 MDT Print View

Here you go:
http://store.nalgene.com/category-s/33.htm

Yes, these are the original HDPE ones; specs page says 108.33g for the 32oz wide-mouth.

Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Re: Re: Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 09/30/2013 18:16:39 MDT Print View

I've been using the HDPE Nalgene wide mouth (white) bottles for over 30 years... I would call them the standard issue though they are not stocked to any great extent... the pretty color ones that people have come to think of standard are about twice the weight... and I think the color bottles make the water taste more like plastic than the HDPE ones do... HDPE is what your plastic milk jugs are made of... probably safer too... as for holding odors, I've not noticed it... but then again, I don't flavor my water...

Bill D

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
Thanks, guys... on 09/30/2013 18:55:02 MDT Print View

I *swear* I posted a follow-up with the website and the acknowledgment that these were VERY similar to the old "milky" plastic ones, but now I don't see it in the thread... strange, but luckily, others have answered the questions, which is great! Thanks, guys!

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
Nalgenes rule on 09/30/2013 19:25:59 MDT Print View

The old style 32 oz widemouth nalgenes are the best backcountry water container ever invented.

The flexy nalgene canteens are simply a joke. Each one I've owned sprung a seam leak inside two months.

Gatorade bottles have a useful life of 3-4 months before they start to crack.

Platys delam in 6-12 months, and are useless in weather below freezing.

The principle of saving 2-4 oz on water bottles is a good one. The application is a poor one when it means investing in throwaway gear.

John Whynot
(jdw01776)

Locale: Southeast Texas
Re: Nalgenes rule on 09/30/2013 19:48:11 MDT Print View

I've gone back to the old style Nalgenes -- they work just as well as they did 30+ years ago. Work well with a Steripen, last forever, and the cap is hard to lose.

I can't stand any water container with a narrow mouth.

Rick M
(rmjapan) - F

Locale: Tokyo, Japan
Re: Nalgenes rule on 09/30/2013 19:53:26 MDT Print View

So these "ultralight" HDPE bottles are no worse than the new, heavier Nalgene lexan? bottles when it comes to retaining odors and tastes?

I agree that the canteens are not reliable even in warm weather. Mine sprung a leak when the flex plastic separated from the hard plastic mouthpiece after a few uses. At least Nalgene offers a lifetime warranty and replaced it quickly. Just had to email them a pic.

On the 5-day trip I took last week I carried the new-to-me "crushable" 500ml PET bottles that weigh only ~14g. They held up well, including a few drops on scree, and best of all cost only $1 and came with a "free" soda! Small opening won't work well in Winter I'm afraid though.

Samuel C. Farrington
(scfhome) - M

Locale: Chocorua NH, USA
bottleology on 09/30/2013 19:58:55 MDT Print View

The logos on the bottles have changed several times - whether that means the bottles have been updated and changed is unknown.

The 108.33 grams for the Nalgene hardbody translucent 32 oz = 3.82 oz.

My MyWeigh scale comes in at 3.85 oz for those bottles. About as close as you get when even a little moisture will alter the weight several hundredths of an oz.

For the same shaped and equipped hard bottle with solid color, the scale says 3.89 oz

For the same shaped bottle made from a more pliable translucent plastic with a cap and retainer from a hard bottle, the scale says 3.53 oz

By comparison, the Walmart shaded widemouth 26 oz (they say 28 oz but it is 26) with cap and retainer is 3.12 oz; and the Planter's widemouth nut bottle with cap but no retainer weighs 2.375 oz. Both these bottles have concave sides for easier gripping.

Decided on the pliable Nalgene at 3.53 oz because the Walmarts leak a little and two 26 oz bottles were coming up short for meals, and because I didn't want to fool around trying to design and make a cap retainer for the Planter's under an oz. But when there is time ...

Have never been able to find around here any of the neat widemouth Gatorades posted here. What appears to be the product # for the pliable Nalgene bottle is 2591-0032, but you must replace the cap with a cap and retainer from a hard bottle.

Happy bottling!

Edited by scfhome on 09/30/2013 20:03:03 MDT.

Aaron Croft
(aaronufl) - M

Locale: Alaska
If it ain't broke... on 09/30/2013 20:10:38 MDT Print View

I agree with Dave. The ease of use and durability of a Nalgene trumps weight, for me.

James Couch
(JBC) - M

Locale: Cascade Mountains
2nd best. on 09/30/2013 20:43:44 MDT Print View

Original Nalgene bottlers are great, but not as good as the Hunersdorff water bottle (especially in winter.) The Hunersdorff is more pliable (easier to break up when iced inside) and the lid NEVER freezes to the bottle:

http://joealpinist.blogspot.com/2012/04/hunersdorff-water-bottles-pick-for-cold.html

Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Re: 2nd best. on 09/30/2013 21:18:45 MDT Print View

Jim... how much do they weigh?

James Couch
(JBC) - M

Locale: Cascade Mountains
Hunersdorf bottle weight on 10/01/2013 01:23:58 MDT Print View

The 1 liter bottle comes in at 135 grams (4.8 oz) in between the UL and 'standard' nalgene bottles. They also do a 1.5 liter that comes in at 174 grams (6.2 oz)

Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 10/01/2013 02:10:45 MDT Print View

I've added a 16oz Nalgene back to my kit. It makes it easy to drink straight from a river, I can use it for a hot drink at night, for my cereal, protein and powdered coconut milk breakfast drink and I can make an emergency hot water bottle if needed. I like water bladders, but as good as they are they will fail eventually.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F - M
hawt on 10/01/2013 04:35:56 MDT Print View

mmmm .... hawt nalgenes ...

the HDPE can taste "plasticky" with hot water ... some people notice it, some dont

either way a solid bottle is pretty useful in colder temps for various reasons

;)

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
nalgenes on 10/01/2013 08:02:29 MDT Print View

The non-lexan nalgenes are absolutely worse than the lexan ones at retaining flavors. Drink mixes and an occasional cup of hot tea are fine, frequent use with coffee will eventually alter them, and use with scotch is right out.

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
HDPE & Alcohol on 10/01/2013 09:25:59 MDT Print View

OMG, David -- NEVER defile your scotch (or other serious libation) by putting it in HDPE! You're making me cry! ;~)

James Couch
(JBC) - M

Locale: Cascade Mountains
Re: nalgenes on 10/01/2013 19:40:43 MDT Print View

Scotch should NEVER be put in plastic of ANY kind, EVER! :)

Mark Ries
(mtmnmark) - M

Locale: IOWAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 10/01/2013 20:03:56 MDT Print View

The only bottles I have ever had problems with were my first old white nalgenes they got brittle and broke all my lexans are good. I will take the weight savings of disposable bottles I've not had any problems even freezing them. I guess I must rotate them with new often enough.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Weight of Nalgene "Ultralite" 1L (for Steripen folks) on 10/16/2013 15:25:36 MDT Print View

Since I am a happy Steripen user, I've been wanting a lighter 1 liter wide-mouth bottle ...so I ordered one of the new "ultralites"
"New" "Ultralight" :) I find that mildly amusing since Nalgene has been selling an HDPE 1L bottle for at least 30 years. Nothing new about them, and I wouldn't exactly call them ultralight. Advertising at it's finest.

What I've been doing with my Steri-Pen is to scoop water into a cut-down 2L Playtypus. it's free standing which is nice, light, and it folds up really small. After treatment, I pour the water into whatever container I like.


I concur that the Nalgene "Cantenes" don't last very well. I've had two spring a leak at the seam. I've stopped using them.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
nalgenes on 10/17/2013 06:15:05 MDT Print View

For my use, nothing is better than standard soda bottle, but I use a Steripen Classic.

I don't know why the new Steripens don't use this design? The neck gasket makes it so much easier then the dip and stir method that the newer models require.

Soda bottle are cheap, light and the screw cap is much more reliable than the Gatorade style caps which break when dropped or start leaking after a month of use.

I beat the hell out of mine and have never had one fail. Can't say the same for other bottles I've tried.