StarLyte Burner for Simmering
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Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/28/2013 18:39:35 MDT Print View

I created this special StarLyte burner to be used as a "designated" burner for simmering.

Weighs 1/2 ounce and holds 1.250 ounces of fuel in suspension for safe handling.

Burns for 16 minutes on 1/2 ounce of fuel.

Comes with lid.

Special Sale Price for BPL members is $12.00 total cost that includes shipping in CONUS. Sale is for 7 days only.
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StarLyte Burner for Simmering



The one on the far right is the one for simmering.
The one in the middle is the modified burner.
The one on the left is the original burner.
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Edited by zelph on 09/28/2013 20:04:51 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/28/2013 19:04:57 MDT Print View

Thank you Davenport, CA. I'll begin shipping orders on Monday.

Thank you Richland, WA

Edited by zelph on 09/28/2013 20:06:07 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/29/2013 07:12:29 MDT Print View

Reading a recent thread gave me the idea to create this burner.

This thread is what inspired me to create a designated simmer stove/burner

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/29/2013 08:52:25 MDT Print View

Since you are essentially just reducing the amount of flame area. Could the same not be done with a washer in the center?

James Klein
(jnklein21) - M

Locale: Southeast
washer on 09/29/2013 09:07:53 MDT Print View

The problem with a washer or similar is it doesn't seal off the top area as well. Result is stove start off slow but then really picks up speed as things warm up.

Here is my work in progress for simmering with a starlyte:

simmertop

simmer on

Tooling foil- 1-2grs. Will simmer 15ml (12gr) alchy for 23mins.

Edited to correct my units (15 fluid Oz's is a lot :() )

Edited by jnklein21 on 09/29/2013 20:43:18 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/29/2013 18:21:43 MDT Print View

Ken, I agree with James. Once the burner heats up the vapors will start coming out from the outer edges of the washer and negate the simmer.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/29/2013 18:26:41 MDT Print View

I see what goes on now. Thanks.

Edited by kthompson on 09/29/2013 18:51:16 MDT.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/29/2013 20:32:01 MDT Print View

Hi Dan,

Slightly off topic, but how do you think a Starlyte necked down for simmering would work for just plain heating water to, say, 170 degrees. I am thinking fuel efficiency here. Time is not that important for me.

Thanks,

Tom

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Re: Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/29/2013 21:41:24 MDT Print View

Hi Tom, It's always been my belief that slower is better for efficiency. The necked down StarLtye for simmering is slower and more efficient. It would be great for your 170 degree water.

Sgt. Rock of Hiking Headquarters.com and the designer of the Ion stove advocates "slower" as does Tony Beasley designer of the Volcano alcohol stove.

Here is link to Tony's thread here at BPL that gives some good info:

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=12503

robert v
(mtnbob123) - F

Locale: Upstate South Carolina
Hi Dan on 09/29/2013 21:57:41 MDT Print View

Sent you an order on this stove plus a question.
Thanks
Robert

Alpine Dad
(AlpineDad)
Canadian BPL members? on 09/30/2013 06:19:36 MDT Print View

Is there an option for Canadian BPL members?

Cheers

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Canadian BPL members? on 09/30/2013 06:42:02 MDT Print View

Robert, got the message and both orders, one of each, will ship today, thank you :-)

Alpine Dad, I'll make a paypal button for international orders today for BPL members. Thanks for the reminder ;)

I had a thought yesterday that one of each burners, regular and the simmer burner could be JB welded together by their bottoms. The simmer one could be filled with enough fuel to simmer for however long you wanted and the cap put on. The regular one filled with enough fuel to bring your water to a boil. Once the water comes to a boil, lift the pot, blow the burner out, flip over and ignite the simmer burner. Just a thought and I'll try it as soon as I can get time to play :-)

James K, what size hole and are you pleased with the flame output?

Edited by zelph on 09/30/2013 06:44:01 MDT.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/30/2013 09:08:53 MDT Print View

Thank you!

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Edited by zelph on 10/01/2013 07:39:34 MDT.

John Davis
(JCD) - F

Locale: Southeast
Dual burner on 09/30/2013 09:48:33 MDT Print View

Great idea. Looking forward to the results

Desert Dweller
(Drusilla)

Locale: Wild Wild West
simmer burner on 09/30/2013 16:28:23 MDT Print View

Ordered. YAY! Thanks Dan!:-))

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: simmer burner on 09/30/2013 17:14:11 MDT Print View

"Is there an option for Canadian BPL members?"

It should work as well at high latitudes as it does at high altitudes.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Canadian BPL members? on 09/30/2013 17:20:54 MDT Print View

I created a paypal button for Canadian and European BPL members.

http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/starlyte-burner-with-lid.php

Thank you to all that have purchased this new burner option :-)

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: StarLyte Burner for Simmering on 09/30/2013 17:41:39 MDT Print View

"It's always been my belief that slower is better for efficiency. The necked down StarLtye for simmering is slower and more efficient. It would be great for your 170 degree water."

That has always been my belief as well, Dan, no matter what kind of stove I'm using,
but it is good to get confirmation from an expert. Matter of fact, I believed it enough to order one of your "Simmerlytes" before I even read your reply. ;0)

Thanks for the quick response.

Tom

James Klein
(jnklein21) - M

Locale: Southeast
Re: Re: Canadian BPL members? on 09/30/2013 19:06:25 MDT Print View

The snap on piece in my pic above has an opening if ~2cm / 7/8".

I haven't settled on it as optimized. I like the burn rate of this one in the kitchen but bet the output may be too little out in the cold. I may do a few different sizes and pick one to suit based on conditions.

Note that the burn rate I give above (.5grs/min) is inside a cone stand with pot. Stove all by itself (with/o all if the reflected thermal feedback is much slower).

I bet you could make a really nice set of these add ons that could be accessories to the cone compatible starlyte.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
"Simmerlytes" on 10/01/2013 07:54:20 MDT Print View

Tom, thanks for your comment. When we think back on how well the Esbitmizer worked because the burn rate could be slowed down by sliding the lid over it we can apply the principle to the StarLyte burner as well. I had to retire the burner because I could not purchase the same size container from the original source, discontinued....bummer. I like how you named the new burner "Simmerlytes" :-)

James, I was a little leary going any smaller with the diameter opening on the burner but may go one size smaller and do some testing in cold weather when alcohol is harder to light when there is a little breeze.

Thank you Desert Dweller :-)

Edited by zelph on 10/01/2013 07:55:49 MDT.