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Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 10:36:36 MDT Print View

I currently have a ZPacks Hexamid that works for most of my trips. I have had a few trips that I have needed something with a bit more stability when conditions go South.

I am currently looking for the lightest 1 Person, Double Walled shelter that can handle 30-40 mph winds, heavy rain, and moderate (8-10 inches) snow load.

Anyone have any ideas? I would like to be around 2.5 lbs or less.

After the above requirements have been met, the most important things to me are:

1. Weight
2. Interior length/width
3. Ease of setup/takedown
4. Freestanding (not a requirement but would be nice)

Thanks

Edited by HikeUltralight on 09/28/2013 11:25:42 MDT.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: Lartnec Nagihcim
Re: Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 10:49:13 MDT Print View

Tarp tent Dw may do you.

Ross L
(Ross) - MLife

Locale: Beautiful BC
Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 11:09:29 MDT Print View

When things get ugly, I use a Stephensons Warmlite 2C. Works for me.

Lapsley Hope
(Laps) - M
what I use on 09/28/2013 11:19:55 MDT Print View

http://tarptent.com/scarp1.html

Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
Replies on 09/28/2013 11:23:46 MDT Print View

@Stephen - That could work, although the crossing pole is heavy, I will keep that on the list.

@Ross - Pretty expensive, and I don't really need 2 person or a true 4 season. Thanks for the suggestion.

@Lapsley - Saw that one, but too heavy. Thanks for the suggestion.

Steven Davis
(StevenDavisPhoto) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
flycreek on 09/28/2013 11:39:54 MDT Print View

expensive, but i love my big agnes flycreek ul2 for light weight and stable. i use my hexamid in most conditions.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 11:40:03 MDT Print View

Nm

Edited by FamilyGuy on 02/02/2014 08:17:14 MST.

Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
Reply on 09/28/2013 11:43:53 MDT Print View

@David - With the fabric inner and cross pole wouldn't it be around 3 lbs? Or does the fabric inner not add any weight over the mesh?

Frank H.
(porker110)

Locale: California
Weight. on 09/28/2013 11:54:22 MDT Print View

I think weight is the last thing to worry about when looking for a "bomber" shelter.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Reply on 09/28/2013 12:06:31 MDT Print View

Nm

Edited by FamilyGuy on 02/02/2014 08:16:42 MST.

Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
Close Enough on 09/28/2013 12:08:51 MDT Print View

That would be close enough to 2.5 lbs. Especially since I could leave the crossing pole at home when only expecting rain and not snow.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Close Enough on 09/28/2013 12:10:41 MDT Print View

Nm

Edited by FamilyGuy on 02/02/2014 08:14:54 MST.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: Lartnec Nagihcim
Re: Re: Close Enough on 09/28/2013 12:45:20 MDT Print View

2.5 lbs for a winter shelter is light in my book, I was thinking of getting
one myself.

Matt Dirksen
(NamelessWay) - MLife

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Re: Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 13:42:43 MDT Print View

Just curious.

Why should it need to be double walled? There are good single walled fabrics out there that can satisfy your requirements.

Matt

Hike Ultralight
(HikeUltralight) - M

Locale: Southeast
Condensation on 09/28/2013 14:05:38 MDT Print View

Don't like rubbing up against condensation, especially when frozen.

Matt Dirksen
(NamelessWay) - MLife

Locale: Mid Atlantic
Re: Condensation on 09/28/2013 14:20:22 MDT Print View

Got it.

Thanks.

Matt

Backpack Jack
(jumpbackjack) - F - M

Locale: Armpit of California
3+ season tents on 09/28/2013 14:45:57 MDT Print View

I've had the TT Moment in some serious snow, you can see it here, if you don't want to read the whole thread just scroll down to the 10th picture.


http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=41114&skip_to_post=355036#355036


You can't beat the performance to weight ratio IMO.

Jack

Charles P
(mediauras) - F

Locale: Terra
Re: Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 14:53:53 MDT Print View

Big Sky Revolution 1P.

I had one for a minute but exchanged for Big Sky's MIrage 1P (single wall hybrid), which I love. When i can get around to it, I plan to post a mini-review. Some people complain about customer service (mostly in the past it seems), but my experience was excellent and the craftsmanship is very high quality. What i like most though (and I tried Moment DW also in my quest to find a solo tent) is that there is loads of head room. Moment was pretty lacking in that regard for me and I'm only 5'10". Set up is extremely easy, and meets your weight requirement if I remember correctly. Good luck w/ search.

EDIT: not sure about snow load but if kick off vestibules occasionally would probably be fine.

Edited by mediauras on 09/28/2013 14:55:18 MDT.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Shelter Recommendation on 09/28/2013 17:08:57 MDT Print View

TT Moment DW
1. Weight
About 36 oz with solid inner. Add 10 oz for x pole or 1 oz less for CF pole
2. Interior length/width
Moment size

3. Ease of setup/take down
I don't know of a shelter that is easier or faster to set up. About 1 minute in fair weather , sets up dry in the rain
(fly and inner together)

4. Freestanding (not a requirement but would be nice)
With optional X pole but it does set up with 2 stakes as it is , add 2 for the pole guylines and you can handle rough weather.

Interior height :
Inside Moment
This is me , 5'8" sitting on a 1.5" fully inflated mat, inside the inner set at the standard height.
You can have it a bit higher by reducing the pole radius.
This is a shot from the original Henry Shires tests of the Moment ;
Under snow Moment
Note that he was not inside the shelter so no banging on walls...

franco@tarptent

Edited by Franco on 09/28/2013 17:27:08 MDT.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
MOMENT DW WINTER MOD on 09/28/2013 21:44:41 MDT Print View

As you can see in Franco's post the snow photo of the MOMENT DW shows a slightly deformed Xing pole from the snow load. The loaded fly has cause this.

By properly shortening the Xing pole and running it BENEATH the fly this problem can be avoided (short of a tree avalanche). The fly supported on two axis by the main pole and the internal Xing pole makes for a nice solo winter tent.

With the two poles in place adding guy lines at each side of the main pole tie-outs and on ski poles at each end from the "former" Xing pole strap points (See photo at Tarptent product site.) make it nearly bomb proof in high winds.

DISCLAIMER: As with any tent one must push or shovel snow away from the base of the walls in a heavy snowfall to keep it from pushing inward all around.