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Techniques for Talus
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Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: Re: Re: Re: I wanna rock...ROCK! on 09/27/2013 11:52:24 MDT Print View

"There are mountains in NH? "


come try it out sometime... don't expect casual switchbacks and nice smooth trail like those mule trails out west :)

that first pic is 1100' in .5mi 4500' in 4.5mi from the bottom

compared to captain peak NM on page 3 3800 in 6mi with switchbacks.

being a rock climber has it's perks.. climbing up, over and on talus is second nature..

Valerie E
(Wildtowner) - M

Locale: Grand Canyon State
5.10 Camp Fours on 09/27/2013 16:26:15 MDT Print View

You might try Five Ten Camp Fours -- I use them for climbing areas with very long approaches. They're called a "hiking shoe" by 5.10, and they're very comfy, with excellent sticky rubber.

Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Re: Re: Techniques for Talus on 09/27/2013 16:36:36 MDT Print View

"The Wahoo Lakes area has some of the most famous talus in the Sierra."


To which I would add the less well known Dumbbell Pass area.

Walt Bizzare
Regarding approach shoes on 09/28/2013 13:31:00 MDT Print View

The Five Ten Camp Four shoe I used recently is the best hiking/approach shoe I've every worn. No blisters after 8 days in the Sierra's Baxter Pass area. Sticky soles, good isolation from trail rocks, not waterproof (which I prefer), good for wide feet, good on snow and well insulated. I always switch out the insoles with better quality ones. Get 1/2 size larger because they run small.

Dean L
(AldoLeopold) - F

Locale: Great Lakes
Re: 5.10 Camp Fours on 09/28/2013 16:41:45 MDT Print View

I picked up a pair of brand new 5.10 Camp Fours when a local shop closed for $30. I wear them for any slickrock/scree/cobbly situations and find them to be excellent. For ordinary sand/soil trails I wear Saucony Peregrines.


Max Neale
(maximumdragonfly) - M

Locale: Anchorage, AK
best approach shoes on 09/29/2013 16:38:11 MDT Print View

First, @Darcy: the blue soled shoes are probably from Patagonia. Possibly the Evermore?

I largely agree with Ryan's assessment of appropriate talus shoes. Just want to add: I feel there's no need for a leather upper unless you're CLIMBING 5th class terrain. For most hiking, where only a small share of time is spent off trail on talus, the best shoe I've used is the La Sportiva Ultra Raptor, which balances sticky rubber with great hiking performance. The best talus shoe used to be the La Sportiva Exum Pro, but they discontinued it (much to the disappointment of many climbers).

If you want the ultimate rock hopping and climbing shoe--one that hikes relatively poorly but climbs extremely well--the La Sportiva Ganda can't be beat.

Slightly outdated comparative pproach shoe review here:

stephen korpi
( - M

Locale: Portland Oregon
Re: best approach shoes on 10/04/2013 19:32:43 MDT Print View

The Salewa Firetail and Firevent are very appropriate for this application. I can attest to the Firetail sticky rubber on a Via Ferrata route in Utah, where the owner of the property tested the shoes by only smearing the hardest route.

Sam Farrington
(scfhome) - M

Locale: Chocorua NH, USA
Trekking Poles amongst the Talus on 10/06/2013 20:23:52 MDT Print View

"Growing up in the Colorado Rockies, we called the small loose sharp stones scree. Larger stones that still can shift pretty easily we called talus. Areas of bigger stuff that mostly stayed put were called boulder fields."

Agree. But whatever you call it, maybe "shale" scree or shale talus, next to wet mossy tread with no traction whatsoever, is what I dread most. Because the flat pieces of shale slide over each other, and it makes no difference how well your footwear holds to the rock. This is found in the Gore Range in CO, which explains why many of the routes near the Gore peaks are left to climbers.

Also found some steep shale in the Collegiates, further south in CO. Went up Frenchman Creek, just a little NE of Mount Columbia. All nice grassy terrain until over the pass, where a 'trail' on the map descended North toward Pine Creek. Nothing but steep shale. Before this hike, had used only walking sticks, but had decided to bring along and try out a Leki hiking pole bought cheap at the local Bean's outlet. Thank goodness. Was able to poke around with the pole for a solid spot, move one foot onto it, then poke around for another solid spot, and so on, always keeping two points of contact with the shale. Still, could not negotiate down the slope, and had to contour way out of my way to get down. So submit that poles have their place in the heights, albeit not amongst the boulders as stated.

"A lot of times that is just normal hiking in NH ;"
That's because the AMC throws rocks into the middle of the treadway.

Stephen Owens
(walknhigh) - MLife

Locale: White Mtns, AZ
"Techniques for Talus" on 10/09/2013 15:47:45 MDT Print View

Good article. On shoes, I am currently using the New Balance 886. They seem to be all terrian (including talus). I have only had them for 4 months, so I am unsure of durability.