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(Joomy) - M
Re: Re: Re Re Re Re Re Approach Shoes on 09/20/2013 17:48:41 MDT Print View

>approach shoes should have no problems even when totally worn on easy slab, in fact you get better friction when the lugs wear out as theres more surface contact

Friction should be proportional to the force you apply to the surface not dependent on surface area. Lugs make it a lot easier to grab small features with harder rubber.

>im actually really puzzled why manufacturers dont make their trail runners more "durable" ... it wouldnt weight much more in many cases if anything ...

I'm guessing it's so they can sell more shoes. They're probably trying to hit the imagined sweet spot between making people angry that their shoe has worn out too fast and proud that they've worn out a pair of shoes. A year of moderate use is probably what they're shooting for, which would probably satisfy most people. They are clearly not designed with professional outdoors-people in mind.

Tony Ronco
(tr-browsing) - MLife
Re: Re: Re Re Re Re Re Approach Shoes on 09/20/2013 19:04:57 MDT Print View

> "Friction should be proportional to the force you apply to the surface not dependent on surface area. Lugs make it a lot easier to grab small features with harder rubber."

Just a FYI ... that's right most of the time ... however there are applications where it is not...


So, surface area doesn't matter in terms of friction IF the contact surfaces DON'T deform ...

... BUT contact surface area can indeed matter, IF the contact surfaces DO deform (or there is molecular adhesion).

For approach shoes whose soft rubber soles obviously deform to granite ... it is the effects of the deformation on friction, that brings the consideration of the contact surface area into the equation ... usually as a term within the coefficient of friction.

Dean L
(AldoLeopold) - F

Locale: Great Lakes
Re: approach shoes on 09/20/2013 19:53:31 MDT Print View

I wear Saucony Peregrines for lighter soil/sandy hikes and Five Ten Camp 4 approach shoes for smoothrock/scree/rocky trails. Seems to work out well.

Dean

John Coyle
(Bigsac)

Locale: NorCal
Altra Lone Peak 1.5 Trail Shoe Review on 09/20/2013 20:29:27 MDT Print View

I hike and backpack in the Sierra, and sometimes the lower Cascade, ranges of Northern California, mostly on trail, but with some class 2 and 3 scrambling. I know shoes are a personal thing, but it's La Sportiva Wildcat's all the way for me. Don't have to worry as much about the sides blowing out because they are essentially all mesh, although it leads to a little side bruising of the feet if a person isn't careful. The soles are amazingly supportive also. If they ever discontinue that shoe I will be extremely displeased. Do you hear that La Sportiva?

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F - M
Re: Re: Re: Re Re Re Re Re Approach Shoes on 09/21/2013 10:45:51 MDT Print View

Jeremy ..

i climb slab all the time. Usually multipitch. In yosemite and squamish. Up to the 5.10 ish range.

For climbing applications, the lugs serve no purpose, you will never see actual climbing shoes with lugs.

They reduce the surface contact when smearing or edging ... Think race car tires, they have little to no tread for a reason...

Companies like 5.10 know this which is why for some of their "performance" approach shoes they have flat fronts and lugs only at the back.

The problem with using many trail shoes on boulders and slabs is that the friction of the rubber honestly sucks ...

Im not saying you cant do it, but if you feel yourself slipping on friction slab when the rubber is flat, ie when you should have the most surface contact, then its might be time to consider some other shoe

Some trail shoes such as the terroc are known to have stickyish rubber and work decently for such applications if you dont want approach shoes .... They are a bit more durable as well

If yr depending on lugs on actual rock, something is wrong IMO

Rock Climbing shoes have no lugs ...

Heres an easy way to practice .... Find some angled smooth rock and stand in yr runners on the ball of yr foot ... Hands free

Find the angle at which the rubber fails ... Thats the point at which yr screwed

;)

Luke Schmidt
(Cameron) - MLife

Locale: The WOODS
Another Option on 09/21/2013 12:28:30 MDT Print View

I'm one who uses the Alras because nothing else really works for my feet (I've tried lots of other shoes).

One shoe I just saw is the Merrell Ascend Glove. Looks like a beefed up Trail Glove. I'll probably try a pair of those next to see what I think. They are mesh so they'll have similar issues with the upper but the vibrum sole might last longer.

Glen Van Peski
(gvanpeski) - F - M

Locale: San Diego
Love my Lone Peaks on 09/22/2013 09:26:56 MDT Print View

I had both the previous versions and recently the new 1.5. Finding the Lone Peaks ended a 5-year search for a backpacking shoe. Apart from the top of the wrap-around toe becoming unglued, actually on both versions, I have had no issues with the shoes. I have had the new versions out on several trips, from SEKI trails to Enchantments granite and have been extremely pleased with their performance. I don't carry much weight, so can't comment on additional wear from backpacking with heavy packs.

Adam Kilpatrick
(oysters) - MLife

Locale: South Australia
Proactive durability modifications on 09/24/2013 01:44:11 MDT Print View

Hi All

wondering if anyone has any techniques for lightweight modifications that could enhance the long term durability of trail runners? For example, putting some kind of coating (normal super-glue?) over stiching lines to help them to repel water/increase long term strength, etc. Or glueing on some nylon patches over mesh areas that you know aren't going to last a long distance. I've considered this many times when I've bought trail runners for bushwalking in Aus. There are times when I wish I had done it, especially on the mesh toe boxes...they pour in dirt and in some bushwacking, particularly spinifex country, my toes cop a lot of abuse from spines.

Maybe Ryan could try some of these things, as well as a bunch of BPL'ers, and collate experiences for an article? It seems shoes such as the Altra 1.5 are probably a very good candidate for such pre-emptive treatment; they have relatively limited durability, yet due to their other features are very popular and just keep getting bought and used over and over again and again.

Probably not much that can be done DIY to reduce sole wear, but upper issues are relatively easily solved. Ryan's suggestion of drilling drainage holes for example (people have long done this for wet environments).

Cheers,
Adam

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
re: shoe mods on 09/24/2013 07:31:01 MDT Print View

Aquaseal is your friend. Take your brand-new shoes and lightly coat stitch lines, the junction between the sole and upper from the midfoot forward, the edges of any rands or overlays, and an especially thin coating over both sides where the metatarsal bends will occur. Add more at wear spots as they develop.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F - M
Re: Proactive durability modifications on 09/24/2013 12:42:20 MDT Print View

1. seam grip every exposed stitch

2. seam grip where the rubber joins the leather

3. the moment you see wear on the mesh, seam grip that too

4. the moment u see breaks in the rubber, shoo goo that

5. take some athletic tape and put a thin layer in the heel cup

and finally at a certain point ... tell yourself how silly it is to keep going through shoes this fast ... and then buy them again because they are the "best"

;)

marvin barg
(Grampa_Kilt) - M

Locale: British Columbia
Lone Peak Love Affair For Better or For Worse on 10/02/2013 13:54:23 MDT Print View

There lie my Lone Peaks in the corner of the laundry room, the forefoot horribly misshapen, grips worn completely down on the lateral edges (no over-pronation support there) and yes, they suck on slippery surfaces, always have. Yet I will buy them again because I can now hike, walk or work in them all day and not feel pain. Nor have I turned my ankle since wearing them. One has to realize they were designed for running a 100 mile race, probably only once before tossing them, and not for long distance U/L hiking.

Perhaps one day, the U/L hiking community will grow enough so that Altra will cater to this emerging market. Until then, thanks to those who wrote how to prolong the life of this shoe. As for slippery slopes, looks like the Lone Peaks will always have to paired with hiking sticks. GK

Jeffrey Stone
(stonepitts) - MLife

Locale: Klamath Knot
Lone Peaks on 10/02/2013 16:17:37 MDT Print View

I've found my Lone Peaks to be quite durable. I have over 300 running miles, a 100 mile PCT backpack trip, and countless shorter hikes on them and they are still serviceable. The most comfortable shoes I've ever owned.

Just Bill Townsend
(Olmanwilly) - MLife

Locale: Midwest
still a fan on 10/15/2013 22:10:33 MDT Print View

I am sad to report the same findings as Ryan. Best shoe I've ever used...until it's not. I did have good luck with the Torin's (the road version of the Lone Peak) They held up fairly well hiking in the Midwest and southern portions of the AT. I had no problem getting 400 miles on them there. The Latest pair of LP's made it a few hundred miles on easy stuff with no complaints- but 100 miles on the Long Trail and they were in bad shape.

Karl Riters
(kriters) - M

Locale: Colorado Front Range
Strategically drilled 1/8" diameter holes" to optimize water exit. on 01/31/2014 07:40:00 MST Print View

• Water Absorption and Dry Time - A change was made to the upper fabric that seems to have decreased water absorption in the v1.5, and the change seems to be positive with respect to dry time. That said, v1.5 remains a pretty sloshy shoe after river crossings, due primarily to its inability to pump water out of the shoe. You’ll have to upgrade your v1.5’s with a few strategically drilled 1/8” diameter holes in the footbed and sole if you want to optimize water exit.

Before I trash my new Lone Peak 1.5s with inappropriate 1/8" holes, would like advice from Ryan or anyone else as to where to drill "a few strategically placed 1/8" diameter holes" to optimize water exit.

SPIRIDON Papapetroy
(spotlight) - F
What Altra Lone Peak is missing... on 04/28/2014 03:22:21 MDT Print View

is a protective rubber rand like the Inov-8 roclite series, trailroc 255 and Merrell Tuff
http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/Product-View-Trailroc-255-Grey-Blue.html?L=26&A=Trail&G=Male
http://outsidetimes.com/gear/merrell-mix-master-tuff-trail-running-shoe-review-4869/
I have the Lone Peak 1 and haven't bought yet version 1.5 because of this. The white piece of leather in the medial side in version 1.5 is totally useless. I am disappointed by the upper of the upcoming Lone Peak 2
http://espn.go.com/espnw/athletes-life/slideshow/10583872/5/altra-lone-peak-20-120-july-2014
the upper looks like a minimal road shoe and certainly not a trail. No protection at all. I love the Lone Peak for zero drop and wide toebox, but Altra should consider more protection from sharp rocks and scree around the shoe.I have tried the Trailroc 255 but i don't like the heel raise of 6mm and it also has a "flat" feel meaning that after standing or walking i had a pain in the area between the arch and the ball of my feet and also under the heel. I feel the lugs too much. So i am between the Lone Peak 1.5 and some other trail shoes that are cushioned and zero drop.
Another choice is the Topo MT trail
http://gearist.com/2014/03/07/review-mt-mountain-trainer-trail-running-shoes-topo-athletic/
some have reported significant arch support and it is not very breathable, it has a yellow fabric that reaches the toebox, not letting air pass through.
The upcoming Merrell Bare access trail is another option, also zero drop with cushion, and with a protective rubber rand, check here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVW0kXglw9s
A very interesting article "Why trail shoes need to get randy"
http://nearlyshoeless.com/2014/03/15/why-trail-shoes-need-to-get-randy/
Check out this comment on altra website about the abrasion guard:
http://www.altrarunning.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ReviewDisplayView?langId=-1&storeId=15151&catalogId=18952&categoryId=75503&productId=305751&reviewId=1027979

Edited by spotlight on 04/28/2014 03:40:38 MDT.

Luke Beveridge
(lukebeveridge) - M
Altra Lone Peak 1.5 Trail Shoe Review on 05/14/2014 00:13:04 MDT Print View

I just purchased a pair of 1.0's and out of the box they are the most comfortable shoes i have ever worn. I've worn so many types of trail runners (Salomon, Inov8, Merrell, Brooks) and i'm totally sold on the Altras already. The Inov8 TrailRoc had been my favourite, and they are fantastic backpacking shoes but the Lone Peak takes the comfort to another level.

I'll be wearing them for about 10km per day of basic walking on well graded trails and will be keeping an eye on how they last.

They are a little sloppy around the heel cup which doesn't seem to have any reinforcement in it - i was wondering if the 1.5 heel cup is any different from the 1.0?

Overall i couldn't be happier with the Lone Peak. I don't know if it's just clever marketing by Altra but seeing so many long distance hikers (Snorkel, Lint etc) wearing Lone Peak's holds alot of weight for me.

I'll be looking for 1.5's down the track and 2.0's, 2.5's... for sure!

TrailRoc v Lone Peak