Ultralight Group Cooking
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Maia
(maia) - MLife

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Ultralight Group Cooking on 09/03/2013 13:41:15 MDT Print View

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Ultralight Group Cooking

Daniel Pittman
(pitsy) - M

Locale: Central Texas
Re: Ultralight Group Cooking: A crummy commercial? on 09/03/2013 14:31:40 MDT Print View

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OWoG44VAw

Matthew Perry
(bigfoot2) - F

Locale: Oregon
Ultralight Group Cooking on 09/03/2013 17:41:30 MDT Print View

Was this supposed to be an article? Could have fooled me.....
It came off more as an article you wanted US to write, not read. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I pay to read this stuff? Really?

Edited by bigfoot2 on 09/03/2013 17:53:24 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Fix and sell my failed product. on 09/03/2013 18:15:22 MDT Print View

So I get deleted for giving this a bad grade.

BPL has now stooped so low to delete comments about the quality or lack of in what is expected to be valued pay for content.

This is not an article. It's an ad, period

Now in my experience doing group trips with other BPLrs, is that everyone like to cook and prepare their own meals with their own set ups. Sharing gear gets some flak here.

The item being developed or not here is pretty limited. I can see why it did not get funded.

Ryan. I want an explanation as to why my post was deleted.

Edited by kthompson on 09/03/2013 18:39:39 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Ultralight Group Cooking on 09/03/2013 18:27:58 MDT Print View

"I want an explanation as to why my post was deleted."

Ken, if they deleted the text of your post and then left a note of which moderator did it, then that would be one thing.

However, if they delete the entire post as if it never existed, then you know which person did that. There's only one.

--B.G.--

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Fix and sell my failed product. on 09/03/2013 18:57:56 MDT Print View

True Bob, I amended my post. Did you notice the ad has not anything useful to add about group cooking? False advertising on BPL's part. Bad title. I suggest a different one above.

Edited by kthompson on 09/03/2013 18:58:28 MDT.

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Fix and sell my failed product. on 09/03/2013 19:02:07 MDT Print View

It's really interesting to see Ryan Jordan do anything like that. I mean, in a weird sort of way.

--B.G.--

M G
(drown) - F - MLife

Locale: Shenandoah
"Ultralight Group Cooking" on 09/03/2013 20:50:11 MDT Print View

OK so i though last weeks' articles were a bit below the bar...Maybe we are at a Luau and this is a limbo line and the bar is suppose to be getting lower. I don't mean to insult the author of the piece but it's just not the kind of material I would expect to pay for, especially in the context of what has been provided here in the past.

spelt with a t
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
Re: Re: Re: Fix and sell my failed product. on 09/03/2013 20:51:59 MDT Print View

Would now be a bad time to ask when the next packrafting video is coming out?

Daniel Pittman
(pitsy) - M

Locale: Central Texas
Re: Ultralight Group Cooking on 09/03/2013 21:00:20 MDT Print View

The only way this 'article' has anything to do with group cooking, is that a lightweight yet sturdy pot-stand is needed to hold larger pots. But who cooks large meals with a tiny alcohol stove? Surely not a group of hungry hikers!

This product is a band-aid on your elbow, when you've got a skinned knee.

It's the most common problem inventors have; they don't invent solutions to real problems. They invent problems to solve.

Peter S (masc. ├╝ber linear logical club)
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Hmm on 09/03/2013 21:15:56 MDT Print View

Wow, this was an awesome article!

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Fix and sell my failed product. on 09/03/2013 21:28:09 MDT Print View

How much alcohol would you need to boil a half gallon of icy cold water? All at one go. You can only use this stand(theoretically as it's not available) with certain a type of alcohol stove. Bet my Trangia is too tall. And my Starlyte is too low.

I noticed that the, ahem, author has no membership here. Probably won't get one now.

Edited by kthompson on 09/03/2013 21:32:44 MDT.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: Fix and sell my failed product. on 09/03/2013 21:35:16 MDT Print View

Aha! I think it is available. Click in the Kickstarter link, and there is a link to his website where they can be ordered.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re:Damn. on 09/03/2013 21:48:10 MDT Print View

Of course I did not click on the Kickstarter link. $25 stand only.

Can be used as a saw. If you're reaching that far why not include fish scaler on the list of features.

And now with some other posts here now Ryan do you see the need for more deletion? Alcohol and larger pots? How about a Clikstand? Looks even more stable. Can convert to canister fuel system too.

http://www.clikstand.com/

Oh look, Hendrik backed this project. It's cursed.

Edited by kthompson on 09/03/2013 21:58:39 MDT.

Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
not quite what I was expecting on 09/03/2013 22:17:34 MDT Print View

I usually don't pile in on these threads, but I was really hoping for a good article on cooking for more than 2. However, in the overall scheme of things it's probably not the worst thing that's going to happen to someone this week. What is the go to stove set up for cooking for a group of 3 to 4?

Ross Bleakney
(rossbleakney) - MLife

Locale: Cascades
Re: Ultralight Group Cooking on 09/04/2013 10:41:14 MDT Print View

I think this idea has merit, but I think the title is all wrong. Once you start talking about group cooking, you move away from alcohol. I love my little alcohol stove, but when I hike with someone else, it just makes more sense to use a canister stove. Once we hike with a big group, or for a long time, it makes sense to use a Jetboil or white gas. Likewise with melting snow for water.

On the other hand, there are places where dealing with a canister stove is difficult (it may be hard to take them on an airplane or buy a canister at your destination). So, there is that.

The greatest value I see of this setup is for anglers who camp in areas where wood burning is not allowed. Typically, you can't guarantee that you will catch a fish. So, you want a stove setup that will allow you to boil water for dinner and breakfast, as well as provide a way to cook some fish (if you are that lucky). I could easily see bringing a Caldera Cone (for boiling water) along with this (one ounce) stand and a flat, aluminum (or titanium) fry pan. Off the top of my head, I think that would be the lightest setup you can have for those conditions.

Douglas Frick
(Otter) - MLife

Locale: Wyoming
re: Ultralight Group Cooking on 09/04/2013 10:48:39 MDT Print View

I usually read the comments expecting some insight, experience, or further suggestions. I regret reading the comments this time.


I sawed three L-shaped pieces of light steel from an old baseboard heater cover, and cut two notches into each so they lock together into a tripod. Works well and breaks down nicely; 1.1 oz. I made several 1-cm welded-wire stands to fit various alcohol stoves, which have the advantage of fitting around the stove and protecting it (although the pot does a good job of that, too); 1.3-1.5 oz.

My lightest, and unfortunately most ungainly, is the LaMar Kirby coat hanger stand (the stove isn't bad either). The stand holds larger pots and is easily re-shaped; 0.7 oz.

http://www.thefoodguys.com/backpackstove.htm

http://zenstoves.net/PotStands-Other.htm

Edited by Otter on 09/04/2013 10:54:46 MDT.

Greg Pruitt
(gwpruitt) - M
Too Sad its Funny... on 09/04/2013 11:21:40 MDT Print View

Agree with all the comments noting that:
1. This is not an article
2. Not worth paying for such content
3. Concept - even if presented better is unrealistic for groups
4. This is a commercial not an informative article


What's next - a series on large group camping in poncho/tarp shelters?

Get real folks!

Dena Kelley
(EagleRiverDee) - M

Locale: Eagle River, Alaska
"Ultralight Group Cooking" on 09/04/2013 11:38:29 MDT Print View

I was expecting, from the title, to see some sort of comparison of UL stoves for group cooking purposes. Which would be an article the community would probably be interest in.

Instead, I saw a cool pot stand. I'll give it props, it's cool. I kind of want one.

But- this article was poorly titled and I do agree with the others that this was really an advertisement and not an effort at educating the community. And I think most of us would not classify an alcohol stove as a viable stove for "group cooking".

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: "Ultralight Group Cooking" on 09/04/2013 12:19:42 MDT Print View

You all missed the point. It is about Kickstarter and the quest to justify group funding for the common good.

;)