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Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 08/28/2013 22:55:20 MDT Print View

********UPDATE 01/17/14 NO VACANCY CAMPFIRE BAN IN EFFECT NO CAMPFIRES NO CHARCOAL FIRES BUT THERE WILL BE TWO PROPANE FIRE PITS FOR OUR ENJOYMENT*******************

With the amount of folks coming out and in hopes of fine weather I am asking that everyone please pack in some water for yourselves. A couple of liters if you are staying overnight both nights. Marc and I will have quite a few gallons with us. I just don't want to see us run out.


Weather

Riding your bike? pedal faster

Whatcha Bringing?

Have something to sell at the Gear Swap Live! in the overflow parking lot on Sunday?

Gear Swap Live!

The 6th Annual G.G.G. is open for registration! See above
We will be at Henry Coe, like years past. Get there early and have fun all weekend.

Have no idea what I'm on about? Look here

2013 GGG

Register here.

GGG Registration


The basic 5 facts

Who- BPLrs and their ilk

What- It a backcountry social that focuses on finding compatible hiking partners who have the same interests And to geek out on the latest lightweight/ultralight,SUL, and XUL backpacking kit.

Where- Henry W Coe State Park, Morgan Hill , CA

When- January 24-26th 2014

Why- Especially why in Jan. Well, we are wanting to get out. Cabin fever sets in for some of us. It's the new year and spring will be right along. So why not?

How-Your registering makes it happen. Like magic.

Edited by kthompson on 01/20/2014 13:14:27 MST.

James DeGraaf
(jdegraaf) - MLife

Locale: Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 08/29/2013 22:59:31 MDT Print View

Will be there, and am reserving this space to make future comments ;)
Thanks,
James

Slaton Whatley
(AlpinistoOutdoors) - M

Locale: Catalinas, Saguaro, Grand Canyon
Psyched! on 09/07/2013 10:48:05 MDT Print View

I'm still pretty new to BPL and lightweight backpacking in general but man does this sound fun! I'm looking forward to trying to make it this year. I'm assuming it's open to everyone? Regardless of skill level?? Would be fun to meet folks from the site as well!

Edit:
After looking at the photos this seems to be where cottage gear makers meet up. Is it open to all BPL members?

Edited by AlpinistoOutdoors on 09/07/2013 11:31:56 MDT.

kevin smith
(divr6347) - M
ggg on 09/21/2013 10:24:00 MDT Print View

dont go

you wont like it

i will be there under PROTEST and that ken thompson guy i just don t know about him hahahha

JUST KIDDING LOL

KEVIN

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/21/2013 13:00:09 MDT Print View

Yes Slaton it is open to all BPLr's. Oh Kevin, I just don't know if there will be a spot for you this time.























kidding. last chance

Edited by kthompson on 12/31/2013 06:25:24 MST.

David Gardner
(GardnerOutdoorLD) - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/22/2013 19:30:26 MDT Print View

Sign me up. GOLD Gear will be there again this year. Looking forward to it and the wood and alcohol stove "burn offs".

Did we decide that there would be two wood categories? Natural aspiration and mechanically-aided?

There has been discussion of the alcohol stove burn off, but no firm rules yet, I think. May I suggest two categories: "Limited" and "Unlimited"? "Limited" would be fastest to boil 2 cups of water using 30 ml of fuel or less (given the cold temps and windy conditions last year, this seems like a fair challenge). "Unlimited" would just be fastest to boil, using any amount of alcohol the stove can use.

Any thought of having an Esbit burn off too?

I'm assembling my competition rigs, getting ready.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/22/2013 20:25:57 MDT Print View

When do sign ups/reservations start?

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/25/2013 19:11:31 MDT Print View

I want to go Ken. I won't be UL because I'll have some old stoves. At least three. :) Cannot put in for time off at work yet for next year. I'll want to take off after work Thursday and camp somewhere west of Sac Thursday night, so I could get in mid day Friday. I want to see some Gold.
Duane

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/25/2013 20:47:08 MDT Print View

Airfare doesn't look too bad at the moment flying in to San Francisco. I'm a definite maybe.

I may end up driving down there from Eastern Washington so if anyone from this area or off of HW 97 in Oregon (Bend) want to carpool, please feel free to send me a PM.

Edited by IDBLOOM on 09/26/2013 08:14:37 MDT.

Jack H.
(Found) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/26/2013 08:38:21 MDT Print View

I put it on my calendar and I intend to be there. [never mind - doesn't look like I'm going.]

Edited by Found on 11/01/2013 08:25:58 MDT.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/26/2013 09:01:38 MDT Print View

I have work late on Friday and Saturday evenings, and another show Sunday afternoon, but will try to walk in for a while on Saturday...hopefully with something non-lightweight and chocolate.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/26/2013 15:15:51 MDT Print View

If Debbie's bringing brownies again, count me in!

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/26/2013 16:00:00 MDT Print View

"hopefully with something non-lightweight and chocolate."

I can easily pass for the non-lightweight part....

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/26/2013 16:55:30 MDT Print View

Wait, wha... DOUG is coming to the GGG this year???? Aw, geez - is it too late for me to back out now? ;-)

And yes, Sharon, there should be brownies.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 09/26/2013 17:36:24 MDT Print View

We can utilize one of the pig traps for Doug if things get out of hand.

Edited by kthompson on 01/09/2014 20:33:15 MST.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/01/2013 12:15:54 MDT Print View

Well, dang - our next door neighbors just informed us that they're getting married on 1/25, and we're invited. So I may not make it out to Coe on Saturday after all. :(

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 14:42:22 MDT Print View

It's official. The 6th Annual G.G.G. registration page is up and running. Space is limited. Reserve your spot or risk missing out.

GGG Registration

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 14:57:34 MDT Print View

Anyone going that wouldn't mind picking me up at the airport and dropping me back off at the airport? I'll gladly pay for gas.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 15:03:13 MDT Print View

"Anyone going that wouldn't mind picking me up at the airport and dropping me back off at the airport? I'll gladly pay for gas."

It'll depend on when you arrive but I can probably pick you up on my way down from Washington.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 15:33:35 MDT Print View

If you fly into OAK, you'll be right on the way

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 15:37:14 MDT Print View

I can do Oakland.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 16:43:23 MDT Print View

Doug -

Depending on when you arrive, another potential scenario:

If your flight arrives in Oakland before Sharon can get there, I live about fifteen minutes from the airport and could probably pick you up, then you could wait at my house for Sharon.

Perhaps the two of you could even ferry some brownies down...

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 16:47:02 MDT Print View

Just wanted to throw it out there.... there are brownies and then there are *brownies*..... I have to take a UA at work so don't feed me the special ones please :)

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 16:47:25 MDT Print View

Oooooooh. Brownies..... :-)

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 17:33:03 MDT Print View

Ian - do you have any idea how expensive it would be to feed everyone at the GGG "special" brownies?!?? Besides, I like my chocolate without any nuts or other alternating substances added (other than butter, eggs, a little flour...).

Manfred Kopisch
(Orienteering) - F
Packrafting at GGG VI on 10/05/2013 18:19:54 MDT Print View

At GGG III three years ago Coyote Creek was too high to cross at China Hole.
I just came back from a 24 hour trip to Henry Coe and used my packraft on Kelly Lake. When hiking back to the Coyote Creek entrance, it somehow clicked.
It should be possible to packraft from the headquarter (Poverty Flat) to Hunting Hollow or even Coyote Reservoir. Now at home, a short Google search brought up this link Coyote Creek east of Morgan Hill.
Depending on the water levels that could be a nice trip during GGG VI. Anyone up to trying this? With two or more people participating we could park one car at Hunting Hollow, drive to headquarter, set up camp, packraft to Hunting Hollow the next morning.

Any thoughts?

Manfred

Edited by Orienteering on 10/05/2013 18:20:55 MDT.

Heath Poulter
(antitrust311) - F

Locale: Southwest
RE on 10/05/2013 19:10:04 MDT Print View

I am new to backpacking light and this event looks really cool, would this be a good event to attend as a newbie? If so I would love to go.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/05/2013 19:14:02 MDT Print View

All experience levels are welcome.

Heath Poulter
(antitrust311) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/05/2013 23:37:22 MDT Print View

Great! Signed up!

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/06/2013 09:30:07 MDT Print View

Spots are going pretty fast.

Thanks so much to those who have registered already.

GGG Registration

Michael Driscoll
(Hillhikerz) - M

Locale: Monterey Bay
GGG 6 - raft trip on 10/06/2013 09:47:08 MDT Print View

Manfred that is completely out of the box thinking... But I like it... It looks to be a 14 mile run from just down from the Deer spring area trail crossing to Coyote res. headwaters... with 4 to China hole I think, that would be no shuttle and a quick hike... Anyway keep us posted on further research and thoughts on this wild ride...

James Castleberry
(Winterland76)
Sign up/Packrafting on 10/06/2013 13:11:27 MDT Print View

Ken
I'm signed up.
Manfred
Count me in for that packrafting idea if it happens.
Jim

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: GGG 6 - raft trip on 10/06/2013 14:28:10 MDT Print View

No lifeguard will be present. Just sayin'.
Sound cool though.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: G.G.G. - Brownies on 10/07/2013 09:00:49 MDT Print View

OMG... whoever it was that brought those brownies last year should get free entrance to this years GGG... because... well. wowzier!


(ps: totally agree that brownies should not have nuts or chunks of anything... brownies should be able to be mashed against the top of your mouth and just provide pure pleasure to the person eating them!)

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
brownies on 10/07/2013 15:17:46 MDT Print View

Don't know about Doug, but I'm not sure I can be trusted alone with any quantity of brownies for two hours.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: brownies on 10/07/2013 18:21:57 MDT Print View

"Don't know about Doug, but I'm not sure I can be trusted alone with any quantity of brownies for two hours."

I promise I will keep them away from Sharon.

I will keep them all to myself.....

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/07/2013 19:25:26 MDT Print View

Half capacity reached already.

Thanks everyone on the feedback on the registration site.

I remember some really good cookies too.

Come for the gear, stay for the food.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/07/2013 19:37:51 MDT Print View

This is as good of a time as any for me to mention that I suffer from night terrors and it's not uncommon for me to wake up in the middle of the night screaming while running through a campground tearing down shelters and tents. For whatever reason, brownies seem to be the only cure.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/07/2013 19:41:31 MDT Print View

Good thing we have access to a pair of these.

pig trap

Pig trap. I love irony.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/07/2013 19:45:18 MDT Print View

Ha ha! Zing!

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Driving time? on 10/07/2013 19:49:51 MDT Print View

About how long would it take to get there (TH) after reaching Sac? Traffic time(s) to avoid? I'll be west bound, eat dinner in Roseville or somewhere before hitting the Bay area. If I work all day, I'd be in Sac about 6PM or earlier.
Thanks for the location link, that gives me an idea where I have to end up, just off of 101 even! I can find that.
Duane

Heath Poulter
(antitrust311) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re on 10/07/2013 22:42:56 MDT Print View

I am flying in early on the 24th to the San Jose airport. If anyone else is flying in that day would anyone be interested in carpooling? I have a really good discount on car rentals through my work and I could get a Minivan or large van for about $25 a day. It'd be a great way to save money be and a good way to get to know people on the drive up as well. I am flying out the afternoon of the 26th. If anyone is interested please let me know.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Packrafting at GGG VI on 10/08/2013 16:42:11 MDT Print View

No parking allowed now near the bridge at mile 7.1. Next closest legal parking is at Hunting Hollow, or Coyote Park.

Also, that bridge might be the last legal takeout above Coyote Reservoir. Below the bridge is barbed wire fence and "No Trespassing" signs until you get to Coyote Reservoir.

USGS river gage on Coyote Creek two miles below Hunting Hollow, still reporting data automatically during the "lapse in appropriations"
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/ca/nwis/uv/?site_no=11169800

Would love to join you, but I can unexpectedly roll any watercraft under 5 feet wide!

-- Rex

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Driving time? on 10/08/2013 21:55:34 MDT Print View

I don't know the answer Duane. Have you tried Mapquest? The estimates seem reasonable in my experience.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Driving time? on 10/09/2013 06:52:32 MDT Print View

Ken, I'll check that out. A Matt replied to me by PM, said about 2.5 hours from Sac. Just need to figure out if I can camp somewhere Thursday night or find a "hood" to sleep in. :) Took a couple wrong turns after getting gas at night a few years ago, one turn, there was something going down. Just my luck, first trip out of the safety of my mountains and I run into something. Get me outta here!!!
Duane

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Driving time? on 10/09/2013 07:10:05 MDT Print View

Duane,
If you are getting to Sac at 6:30 or earlier, I would just drive to Coe instead of trying to find a place to camp in an unfamiliar area.

Ken Helwig
(kennyhel77) - MLife

Locale: Scotts Valley CA via San Jose, CA
Re: Re: Driving time? on 10/09/2013 15:33:40 MDT Print View

Duane, the Morgan Hill area near the park is rural wuth plenty of places to park and get some shut eye. Reasonably safe

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Driving time? on 10/09/2013 17:36:25 MDT Print View

Thank you. I had poor directions a few years ago on my first trip down "there" at night. Got new directions at a gas station, went back to where I had gone but a little further and found the turn off, found my way to Bodega Bay then.
Duane

Backpack Jack
(jumpbackjack) - F - M

Locale: Armpit of California
G.G.G. on 10/10/2013 08:58:58 MDT Print View

Ken I'm in, just need to pay.

Jack

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/10/2013 12:31:24 MDT Print View

Almost a capacity crowd already.


@jack. Got you, thanks.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Better ante up dude! on 10/10/2013 14:07:58 MDT Print View

:)
Ken, I checked out Mapquest the bestest I could last night. I think I'll shoot down 5 and 580 to miss the mess in the Bay Area, more comfy for me. Look forward to seeing faces.
Duane

Diana Vann
(DianaV) - MLife

Locale: Wandering
Thank You on 10/11/2013 10:46:56 MDT Print View

Ken,

Thanks for putting this event together one more time. Looking forward to it!

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/11/2013 12:38:38 MDT Print View

Ken,

What is the capacity this year?

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/11/2013 18:07:50 MDT Print View

@ Diana. Yeah! Will be great to see you.

@Tony I opened up 50 spots and have a capacity of 70 persons.

Morgan Rucks
(rucksmtr) - F
packraft on 10/12/2013 12:21:00 MDT Print View

@ Manfred

I'm down to try the packraft route!

also down to packraft some other time too!
south folk of the American, mattole river, cache creek?

Edited by rucksmtr on 10/12/2013 12:22:21 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 06:34:25 MDT Print View

I have three mystery guests registered. Does anyone know the following people?


EngShien Wu

Max Katzmartsic

Sanjay Waghray

These three are the only ones on the list that have not been before. BPL search turned up nothing.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: The Great Lakes Bay Region
Re: G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 06:52:08 MDT Print View

Spam Brigade Ken?

Gary Dunckel
(Zia-Grill-Guy) - MLife

Locale: Boulder
Mystery guests on 10/14/2013 07:35:21 MDT Print View

I made a pot stand for Eng-Shien Wu a while back. He seems like a good guy. I don't know about the other 2.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 10:07:57 MDT Print View

I assume Max is: http://www.meetup.com/Wildcat-Adventure-Club/members/8482990/

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 11:38:55 MDT Print View

There are more than a few members using a pseudonym so it's hard to say.

From reading last year's report, is it safe to say that we'll spend 80% of our time in camp? Just trying to figure out if I should bring a mac-daddy chair or not.

Also, I'm bringing my truck down. I understand that it'll be parked a ways away from where we're camping but I'm happy to offer it up to shuttle supplies, gear, and people if necessary.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Re: Re: G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 11:51:24 MDT Print View

Last year we had a van and truck haul in stuff, maybe you could slip in a few items if there is room.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 13:08:46 MDT Print View

Last G.G.G. was the first one to have more than a few forum lurkers show up. I have been around here long enough to recognized most names of active posters.

I just find it curious.

It just seems a little backwards to meet first like this.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
G.G.G. Mystery Guests on 10/14/2013 14:00:00 MDT Print View

Friends of members or lurkers? Anyone hauling in a generator for the fridge full of Sierra Nevada and Lagunitas? :)
Duane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/14/2013 14:01:10 MDT Print View

A fridge. Good idea Duane.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
What to do at the GGG on 10/14/2013 16:36:01 MDT Print View

Ian,

Most people will end up staying in camp the whole time making new friends and saying hello to old one.

A lot of show and tell with the manufatures, checking out other people's gear, and a host of characters who will do a bit of show and tell with their own collect of gear for sale and personal stuff.

Last time we have had some people get together informally for a dayhike in the area and we have seen Geo Cacheing with kids lead by an adult.

A chair would be a good idea....nice luxury item to have.

There are a number of picnic tables with benches to sit on, but not nearly enough for everyone to have a seat.

Just remember to dress a little warmer than you might while out on the trail.

Given that there is a lot of time standing around, you might want a little more warmth.

-Tony

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: What to do at the GGG on 10/14/2013 16:57:46 MDT Print View

Thanks Tony et al for the replies. This sounds like a lot of fun.

Manfred Kopisch
(Orienteering) - F
Re: packraft on 10/14/2013 16:59:44 MDT Print View

Morgan,

Your PM is not enabled, so I'm replying here.

I'm always open to packraft ideas.
This weekend my wife and I packrafted the Elkhorn Slough from Kirby Park down to the Pacific Ocean, had lunch there, went back with the tide to Kirby Park and then went backpacking in The Forest of Nisene Marks.
Last weekend I took the packraft along on a trip to Henry Coe and used it for fishing on Kelly Lake. The weekend before that my wife and I packrafted the South Fork of the American River from Coloma to Greenwood.

Where are you located? We are in Menlo Park. Cache Creek sounds like a great packrafting trip that combines backpacking with packrafting. What are the flows currently?
I would also be open to another South Fork weekend. The River Shuttle doesn't run any longer, so we would have to find another solution for getting back to the car.

Mattole River sounds like an interesting trip too -- Once it rains and there is enough water, it should be possible to packraft from Honeydew down to the Ocean, hike back along the Lost Coast to Spanish Ridge or Kinsey Ridg and hike up via Smith Etter Rd to Honeydew.

You can PM me to discuss ideas.

Manfred

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: What to do at the GGG on 10/14/2013 19:17:46 MDT Print View

Ian,

It is a blast in that you have the instant ice breaker to start a conversation with anyone....gear, backpacking trips you have taken, asking for suggestions for places to go, conversations on why "we" collectively are not insane for doing what we do as UL/lightweight backpacker, meeting cool people to take future trips, laugh at all the "other" crazy people there.

You should see my tarp, it really is stupid, crazy small.....the suggestion of protection.

You will have a great time...invite your friends or make new ones if you don't have any!

Tony

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
They worry about me at work on 10/14/2013 19:48:54 MDT Print View

I tell the ladies at work, that the issue isn't me going bp by myself, on snow camping trips with all the big bad bears out there also, its all the other people doing it too.
Ken, I'll see if I can find a UL fridge. :)
Duane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/14/2013 19:55:27 MDT Print View

OK Duane. Don't worry about a fridge. One reason why we do it in January. The beer stays cold, and the scotch is warm. Thermal regulation.

Ian, It'll be worth the trip. It really is a fantastic group of folks coming.

So much so that I have to close open invitations. We are pretty much at capacity. The cottage folks mostly have not yet committed. But it is still a few months off. I will have a list for standby.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/20/2013 21:45:54 MDT Print View

Group spots 4 and 5 have been reserved. I see someone has themselves a spot for Thurs. night at the HQ campground. See you there!

Marc Eldridge
(meld) - MLife

Locale: The here and now.
Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 10/20/2013 22:13:46 MDT Print View

I got #16 at HQ camp. We are 2 but the site will fit 6 more people. We will have 1 truck but there is space for 2 more cars.

Edited by meld on 10/22/2013 07:29:47 MDT.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
"6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 10/21/2013 20:46:11 MDT Print View

Split CG fee? Anyone care to split the fee for Thursday night at the Headquarters CG? I'll try to get off late Thursday morning and drive there, should be there before dark. 5+ hour drive I'm thinking, weather permitting a drive over the Sierra. Single male, over the hill now, but can put away the younger crowd usually. Non smoker/drugs, light alcohol use if any. Early riser. Need a tent site, may have loud stoves in use, depending on folks. :)
Ken, any recommendations on which sites not to get? Good coverage?
hikerduane at aaa hawk dot com
Duane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/21/2013 21:30:18 MDT Print View

Duane. PM sent.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/21/2013 21:57:09 MDT Print View

I haven't been able to think about something this far out until now. Are there still open spots?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. on 10/21/2013 21:59:26 MDT Print View

Steven. PM sent.

Richard R
(alaskaoneday) - MLife

Locale: Northern CA
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/22/2013 18:39:11 MDT Print View

Hey ken
Put me on the standby list in case you get a cancellation.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/22/2013 18:46:47 MDT Print View

I've got two open spots if Richard is coming solo.

@Richard. PM sent

Almost everyone who is coming has been before. Thanks repeat offenders!

Edited by kthompson on 10/22/2013 18:56:38 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/22/2013 19:08:15 MDT Print View

Well those spots did not last long. Once we get closer I may have more room to offer up. May.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/22/2013 19:23:29 MDT Print View

Place to stay Thursday night. Thanks to Ken and Jack from the armpit for their offers. I'll take you up Ken since you offered first.
Duane

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 10/23/2013 15:29:46 MDT Print View

Duane Hall wrote: > ...may have loud stoves in use..
Sorry, buddy, no loud stoves allowed. ;)

I'll look forward to meeting you in person (I will be there again this year).

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 10/23/2013 15:48:47 MDT Print View

Hey, I love the sound of someone firing up a jet turbine stove at 6 a.m. ;)

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/23/2013 16:43:39 MDT Print View

"Hey, I love the sound of someone firing up a jet turbine stove at 6 a.m. ;)"

Me too! Means coffee will be ready soon.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/23/2013 19:13:08 MDT Print View

Thanks HJ, it'll be good to meet you and listen to you about stoves. I'll blend into the background after a minute or two. Three months to decide which stoves to bring, plus a few gals. of water, good excuse to use the new 33oz. winter volume pack if I don't get out here again next week or two. The Primus 41 makes a big flame, but I'm sure I'll bring a couple old 8's and maybe a MF and a small brassie of some denomination for some different smells. At the TH, maybe a 22.
No Via anymore, I can have regular coffee of sorts using a small filter.
Duane

Edited by hikerduane on 10/23/2013 20:22:56 MDT.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/23/2013 19:16:56 MDT Print View

Via is not coffee in my book. Only real coffee goes in me. I'm hoping Jim launches another fireball! That got everyone's attention.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/24/2013 10:26:55 MDT Print View

Hey! That was two years ago, not last year. Everyone has forgotten about it by now. Besides, Dragonfly stoves are supposed to fireball. ;)

I could do my "why your remote canister stove needs a pre-heat loop" demo. That's always fun.

And that's after it settled down some. The initial flare size surprised me so much (even though I caused it deliberately) that I didn't snap the photo for a couple of seconds. It's an interesting demo, but I'm hesitant to repeat it!

HJ
Adventures In Stoving

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/24/2013 14:39:19 MDT Print View

Hey! I never said it was last year.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/27/2013 10:44:27 MDT Print View

The 25th also coincides with a scheduled trail work day organized by the Pine Ridge Association. So if you have energy to burn, you have a chance to give back.

http://coepark.net/pineridgeassociation/pra-event-list/details/19-trail-work-day

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/30/2013 19:25:51 MDT Print View

85 days!

Andrew F
(andrew.f) - F - M

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/30/2013 21:34:54 MDT Print View

Well when you put it that way it sounds like a long time away!

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 10/30/2013 21:59:36 MDT Print View

Last time I counted was 110. Will be here before you know it. With the holidays coming up and all.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/03/2013 19:34:58 MST Print View

Edited out the whining...

I needed a break from the forum as it was apparent that BPL has been a bit too important to me and that RJ is getting under my skin. Thanks for all the kind comments and words of encouragement that follow in this this thread. Also thanks for the all the PMs. Your a great bunch of folks.

I want to thank everyone for their interest in this annual event. It has been my pleasure putting these together. I am amazed at the fact that almost everyone who has signed up has been before. You are an amazing group of people from such diverse backgrounds. Conversations are never dull. Everyone is so nice to one another and the community spirit is alive and well. With everyone's support I was able to make a donation on our behalf to the Pine Ridge Association, the volunteer group that keeps the park running. Thanks again to John Abela for setting up the website for this event. It's made such a difference.



I once again want to thank Ken Helwig for having the great idea of the GGG. I am truly sorry how thing have wound up between the two of us. My fault, no excuses. I hope that you can forgive me in time.

Edited by kthompson on 12/16/2013 09:08:04 MST.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/03/2013 19:46:32 MST Print View

I sent you a pm as well, but have no problem posting this in public. If you want to take a break because you want to or need to, then do what you have to and we'll miss you . If this is because someone else made comments about BPL being someone's life...then please don't leave.
BPL is pretty much the extent of my social life; I work then rush home in the woods to work some more. I don't go to parties. I work on the weekend and when I don't , I like to be home with family. BPL and the outings we do is where I get to hang out with people. So what? I don't care if to someone else it isn't much; to me BPL is a bit of family and you are a part of it. Unless you really want to leave, I would much prefer you stay and keep pushing even when it makes others uncomfortable.

Michael Driscoll
(Hillhikerz) - M

Locale: Monterey Bay
6th GGG on 11/03/2013 19:49:49 MST Print View

Ken, I always viewed you as a moderator and a voice of reason on BPL... anyway you have made my short time here more enjoyable and looking forward to real coffee @ the 6/GGG with you...

David Gardner
(GardnerOutdoorLD) - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/03/2013 19:52:43 MST Print View

Ditto Katharina and Michael

Edited by GardnerOutdoorLD on 11/03/2013 19:54:24 MST.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/03/2013 19:56:05 MST Print View

"I am considering a self imposed break from posting for the rest of this year at least."

Can I have your van?

Manfred Kopisch
(Orienteering) - F
Looking forward to seeing EVERYONE at GGG VI on 11/03/2013 20:57:45 MST Print View

Ken,

Michelle and I just came back from Angel Island, where we camped the weekend with friends we met on BPL. They brought their 8 month old son and we brought our three youngest daughters to explore the island.
In three weeks we will go to Yosemite with friends we met at GGG IV and V. This summer and last summer I went on long trails with a friend I met at GGG IV.

Where am I going with this, you wonder. To me BPL and GGG are complementary - both are creating a community of like-minded people despite them coming from many different, diverse backgrounds. Both do it in a completely different way, but they "talk" to the same people. GGG has enhanced BPL tremendously by providing the opportunity to meet many people at once face to face, talk around the camp fire, exchange tips, show gear and make friends. Many of us backpacked alone in the past, because it was hard to find like-minded people for our excursions. With the combination of BPL and GGG a whole community has been built (at least here in the West) where it is easy to find people with similar backpacking style and go out together. You and Ken and Tony and Mark (I'm sure I forget others) deserve a lot of credit for making GGG what it is. GGG has grown over the years and with the recent addition of vendors it has become even more valuable for many participants. My observation so far has been that the people at GGG and on BPL who share a passion of backpacking (however light) are very inclusive. Despite any differences people might have in other areas of life, out there backpacking in the woods or mountains they are very helpful.

I hope that both BPL and GGG will continue to flourish and I'm willing to do my part by helping with GGG and being helpful on the BPL forums whenever I feel I have something to contribute.

Thanks for all your hard work.

Manfred

P.S.: Ken, I have read the majority of your posts in the last couple of years. Seeing your name as author of a post makes me open it and read it, because I appreciate your direct style. Stay true to yourself.

Matthew Black
(mtblack)
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/03/2013 21:36:04 MST Print View

Ken,

I don't contribute heavily to the forums and I don't follow all that goes on here very closely. I have lurked here since 2008 and learned a great deal by reading member's posts about gear, cooking, trip reports and the occasional random thoughts.

I fully understand being socially awkward. I've never been outgoing and don't make friends easily. In the aftermath of divorce I came back to the only city that ever felt like home and started trying to rebuild my life.

I threw my name out for a Lost Coast trip in April of 2011 and had a great time while learning a lot just by looking at how people hiked and the things they carried. This was the first time I met Ken, Casey Bowden, Kat and John Abela. I've been on several trips with them since then and many more with people I met at the GGG or through BPL forum trips.

I have been hiking and backpacking more frequently than at any previous point in my life and all of it with people who were complete unknowns before this site was recommended to me. I am grateful to have met all of you and count you as friends.

I can't think of any other single place to find so many people who are non-judgmental, yet graciously offer advice and suggestions for making your backcountry trips safer and easier.

I don't concern myself with the site's management or mission statement. I've gotten a lot out of it and will do so for as long as it exists because of the members. It was after meeting the above folks that I felt compelled to pay for membership as a thank you for the experiences that the people who frequent this site have given me.

Do what's right for you. Sometimes it is best to take a step back from things and get perspective. Even if the site disappears the people are still right where they have always been.

I will see you at the GGG and I hope many other times after.

David W.
(Davidpcvsamoa) - MLife

Locale: East Bay, CA
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/03/2013 23:05:47 MST Print View

Ken,

Although I don't always agree with all you grievances with the administration of the site, I think you and others have made many fair criticisms. I believe the strength of this forum more than ever is its members (customers) and they have neglected and not been listened to. I share many of your frustrations. From what I have seen, you point out issues because you care about the forum and community and not because you troll filled with vitriol. After spending a night around the campfire chewing the fat, I think most people who are critical of you would agree you are a good guy even if they don't share all the same opinions. The humanity is easily lost over the internet. Thank you for giving voice to many of my issues with the direction of the forum. A temporary break may be a good idea but I would hate to see you go.

I'm looking forward to sharing a beer at the GGG.

Edited to add:

I wanted to add that I am optimist and believe things will improve. I hope you and others don't walk away.

Edited by Davidpcvsamoa on 11/04/2013 20:19:32 MST.

Peter S
(prse) - MLife

Locale: Denmark
Loss on 11/04/2013 01:26:36 MST Print View

This is not good for the BPL community.

I hope you'll come back if things improve around here.

Take care Ken, you'll be missed.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. etc. on 11/04/2013 18:48:50 MST Print View

Ken,

I saw the post that you are referencing regarding if BPL is your life, you have a problem.

I took that remark to be made half in jest and half serious.

That said, please don't take it literally or personally!

You are the pain in the butt that keeps BPL honest and often what you say has merit.

Again, I might not agree with everything, but I know that in your heart it is simply because you care and you want BPL to be better than it is and to keep their promises.

I too have been frustrated wtih BPL.

I have made what I thought were very constructive and well thought out suggestions and only heard the silence of the wind in reply.

I am not as active on BPL as I used to be, but I am still here for the community that has given me so much and allowed me to take the trips/adventures that I have been on.

You should be proud of what YOU have done here.

YOU have helped bridge the gap between what is just an online community to make it something special where people meet in the real world to cement friendships that last because they have come to meet in real life at the GGGs.

I know that you are modest, but there would not be a GGG today without you because you are the magnet that draws others to want to help you make the GGG happen.

Think of all the backpacking trips that might not have happened with people who meet at the GGG....memories for a lifetime to talk about.

Your enthusiasm HERE on BPL is what helps make the GGG happen.

Heck, you get excited about the next GGG right after the last one is finished.

If you leave BPL silent of your voice we will all be poorer for it.

BPL will be poorer for it and if they don't appreciate you for what you contribute, the heck with them!

You have told me that over the years the GGG and BPL has given a lot to you. It has brought you out of your shell and made you be more socialable when you really are not.

It has made you better and your presence has enriched all of us who know you online and in person.

Maybe BPL should not be your LIFE, but is can be your FAMILY.

Family cares about each other, even when they disagree and fight. They may not be able to see eye to eye, but family does stick together.

Personal, I am terrible relations with my own biological family, but my family is the one of my making and BPL is part of that constructed family.

So please reconsider....take the time you need, if you want to, give yourself some space, but I hope that your reasons for your leaving are the right ones for YOU and not because of some misguided posting on BPL.

Tony

Edit for spelling

Edited by Valshar on 11/04/2013 19:06:06 MST.

Dave Stoller
(BreakingAway)
"6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 11/04/2013 19:32:11 MST Print View

Hey Ken -

Whatever you've taken from BPL you've given more.

BPL might make a roaring comeback or flame out but whatever happens you'll always have the relationships you built here, the memories and the knowledge you had a positive impact on people.

Not bad, huh?

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 11/07/2013 20:25:04 MST Print View

So is this sort of like the BPL version of burning man?

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 11/08/2013 08:36:48 MST Print View

Ken,

I’ve never met you outside of the BPL forums but when I read your criticisms about BPL, I see a person who’s invested into this community and is passionate about making it better. I don’t know what your background is but you’d have been a great fit in an infantry unit. As a grunt from my previous life, I can’t pay you a higher complement. If we had problems within the platoon, we’d have it out with each other with no mercy but at the end of the day, we were a band of brothers.

I realize that BPL isn’t a military operation but while criticism is tough to take at times, it should always be welcomed as an opportunity for some self reflection.

“The day the soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you stopped leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help them or concluded that you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership.”
Colin Powell

I really look forward to finally meeting you in person at the GGG and I’m bringing a flask of a top shelf beverage. I can’t wait to have a drink with you.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/08/2013 09:00:16 MST Print View

Taking over the count-down for Ken...

There are 2 months and 15 days (that is 76 total days) until the GGG West starts!

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/08/2013 09:09:29 MST Print View

Looks like my kind of people coming, hope I am half the person of y'all. Ken, I'm bringing my loudest kerosene stove for Friday AM coffee.
Duane

Erik G
(fox212) - F

Locale: THE Bay Area :)
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/08/2013 12:28:55 MST Print View

Ooh boy, I can't wait!! This will be my first GGG event(of many, hopefully!). More than anything else I'm really looking forward to meeting like-minded folks and making some new friends and hiking buddies.

Ken,

I understand the need to take a break from things to get some perspective. However, I REALLY hope it is just a break. I don't know you other than from our brief PMs regarding GGG, and from your presence here on BPL, but from that I can tell you are someone who cares about others, who stands up for what he believes is right or wrong, and who I'd enjoy hanging out/hiking with (fellow recovering introvert here). Sure, many of your posts are 'calling out BPL', or whatever, and that can ruffle many feathers, but your voice has been a necessary and valuable one to the community IMO. It is clear that you care about this forum and more so about the community that comprises it. In a good way. I really don't think 'BPL being your life' is a bad thing, as it is so much more than a forum and some good articles. If only BPL could be my life!!! :)

Sorry if I overstepped my bounds in any of the above, but I really felt compelled to share my feelings on this.

Sincerely looking forward to meeting you and others at the GGG.



And, if I may, RJ would be a fool to ban you from BPL.

Edited by fox212 on 11/08/2013 13:28:33 MST.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 11/08/2013 12:58:25 MST Print View

"I really look forward to finally meeting you in person at the GGG and I’m bringing a flask of a top shelf beverage. I can’t wait to have a drink with you."

Remember, he's already talking infantry, so "top shelf beverage" means whatever they can reach while already drunk.....

And to all the Ken love out there, fer cryin' out loud, get a fricking room already, will ya!

Erik G
(fox212) - F

Locale: THE Bay Area :)
Re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:05:53 MST Print View

nevermind, don't want to be negative.

Edited by fox212 on 11/08/2013 13:12:56 MST.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: Re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:10:12 MST Print View

If something I said could be taken hurtfully or in jest, I probably meant it in jest.

If Doug does so, he certainly meant it in jest.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:17:02 MST Print View

"If Doug does so, he certainly meant it in jest."

Thanks Dave.

Ken and I are good friends. I have no doubt he'd smile, or even laugh, when he reads what I wrote - but that's because he knows me.

I should remember that not everyone does, and therefore such posts can be easily misinterpreted. My bad.

Erik G
(fox212) - F

Locale: THE Bay Area :)
Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:17:28 MST Print View

David,
I'm sure Doug was AT LEAST partly kidding, but it just rubbed me the wrong way with the "get a room" thing. It makes me not want to share my feelings that I otherwise would want to. I reacted and responded in a way I shouldn't have, and I apologize for that. Also edited my post because it also just didn't sit well with me.

Doug,
Sorry for reacting negatively to your post. I was out of line and took it way too seriously. :)

Edited by fox212 on 11/08/2013 13:30:20 MST.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/08/2013 13:34:51 MST Print View

>"I'm hoping Jim launches another fireball! "

Fireball? Did someone say fireball?Methane Clouds

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:35:56 MST Print View

Erik,
I hear you, although I missed your edited post. I have been told the same when expressing appreciation for someone and it did not sit well with me either. Seems like culturally men have so often been discouraged from expressing their feelings and when they do I would rather encourage them than shoot them down. So Erik, to me you guys that speak from the heart are brave indeed and don't stop doing it please.
All that said, Doug is a sweetheart too even though sometimes he likes to hide it . I cannot think of another BPL member that has been as generous to fellow members. Let's just say he is the real Santa of the forum. So here is some love for you Doug.
Now someone tell me to get a room :)


Edited for spelling

Edited by Kat_P on 11/08/2013 13:36:53 MST.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:41:31 MST Print View

"And to all the Ken love out there, fer cryin' out loud, get a fricking room already, will ya!"

Actually I was hoping for some cuddle time with Ken at the GGG but this may not be the right time to bring that up....

... yeah let's table that one.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:42:20 MST Print View

"Actually I was hoping for some cuddle time with Ken at the GGG but this may not be the right time to bring that up...."

You realize you just earned the nickname "Teddy Bear" at the GGG, right?

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:44:49 MST Print View

"Remember, he's already talking infantry, so "top shelf beverage" means whatever they can reach while already drunk....."

Ha ha! Talk's cheap Doug! Show up to the GGG and we'll see. Hint, it's Irish.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:45:03 MST Print View

"Let's just say he is the real Santa of the forum."

In other words, I'm fat and I have an unusual fondness for elves.

Get a room indeed. The surcharge for reindeer is ridiculous......

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: Re: Re: re: re: "the love" on 11/08/2013 13:56:51 MST Print View

""Let's just say he is the real Santa of the forum."

In other words, I'm fat and I have an unusual fondness for elves.

Get a room indeed. The surcharge for reindeer is ridiculous......"


:)

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Ken around? on 11/08/2013 14:12:57 MST Print View

Ken must be around to change his avatar or a admin type is messing with us.
Duane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/08/2013 18:56:07 MST Print View

I am overwhelmed with everyone's kind comments here and the delightful PM's that have been sent. I certainly feel the love. Thanks for the encouragement.

Mike Oxford
(moxford) - MLife

Locale: Silicon Valley, CA
Back on topic... on 11/20/2013 16:27:36 MST Print View

... can someone point me to the waitlist please? :)

-mox

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Back on topic... on 11/20/2013 16:29:47 MST Print View

http://gggwest.com/ -- 64 days and counting!!

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/25/2013 11:28:27 MST Print View

A take away from this for me. The coast in winter can be like the Sierra or more for clothing needs. I've only been to the coast a few times, the first was colder than the Sierra at Christmas a few years ago, a few days before Christmas at Bodega Bay. My 35F bag was only sufficient. Food protection needed from coons or will we be far enough inland to avoid those nasty critters? I think that is all the concerns I have, hope to make it, depending on road conditions over the mountain in Jan.
Cold the last two weekends car camping, 19F yesterday AM when I got home.
Duane

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/25/2013 18:43:49 MST Print View

" Food protection needed from coons or will we be far enough inland to avoid those nasty critters?"

There will absolutely be raccoons active in the park. I don't recall seeing or hearing any in camp, but they won't be far away.

Marc Eldridge
(meld) - MLife

Locale: The here and now.
Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 11/25/2013 18:59:10 MST Print View

Kat should bring her camera.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/25/2013 19:50:05 MST Print View

Thank you Sharon, Ken shot me an email, I just didn't want to place another comment or heaven forbid bump this. :)
Duane

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 11/30/2013 14:27:29 MST Print View

Countdown is at 54 days!!

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 -- Confirmed Cottage Companies Attending on 11/30/2013 17:12:51 MST Print View

Hey All,

Here is a list of the owners/reps of cottage companies that have confirmed they will be attending the 2014 GGG West event.

Ron and Brian from Six Moon Design

Jon Fong from Flat Cat Gear

Kat P from MountainGoat Hats & Goods

Jack Elliot from Borah Gear

David Gardener from G.O.L.D. Gear


Still pending confirmation from: Trail Designs, Henry Shires and Gossamer Gear.

I have also been told that Dan Y. (aka: zelph / bplite) will be sending some stoves and such for giveaways, demos, etc.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Great lineup on 12/06/2013 00:30:06 MST Print View

Great lineup. It's just getting better and better. Me and Ms. EJ are really looking forward.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. and standbys on 12/08/2013 10:23:59 MST Print View

I have a suggestion for those who are interested in coming, but are on the standby list. Get yourself a campsite at the HQ campground. Costs only a few bucks more than a parking pass. Gives you a place to park, camp,restrooms. It's a short hike in to the group site. Whether you camp there or not,wink, is your business. Most spots are still available there. You can reserve ahead of time or take your chances when you get there. PM me if you have any questions.

46 days and counting.

*If you are camping at the HQ campground bring your own wood and water.

*Edited to make the last sentence more clear.

Edited by kthompson on 12/09/2013 18:37:56 MST.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. and standbys on 12/09/2013 18:33:35 MST Print View

Are we not going to have water on site this time?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. and standbys on 12/09/2013 18:36:03 MST Print View

Justin. We will. I mean those who would camp at the car camping campground. We went through 75+ gallons last time.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. and standbys on 12/09/2013 18:38:29 MST Print View

Ken,

Good to see your are back from exile.

Jacob D
(JacobD) - F

Locale: North Bay
Trail Run Invite on 12/13/2013 12:10:52 MST Print View

Last year a few of us did a short trail run starting and ending at the group camp. I plan to do a similar run this year and I'd like to invite anyone who's interested to come along.

I'd like to head out Saturday morning around 8 or 9 am. The mileage last year was just under 5 miles and included dropping down to the creek and heading towards China Hole. This involves a fairly steep descent (cautiously runable) and a similar ascent (we power hiked a good part of that climb).

This year I have a slightly different route in mind which should be somewhere around 5.5 ~ 6 miles but still along the same stretch of creek. The direction will also be reversed; the descent will be longer, not as steep, and mostly along a road. The climb out will be shorter but steeper.

It was a beautiful run and a lot of fun. If interested just bring your running shoes, your favorite method of staying hydrated, and a smile.


See you there!

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 15:39:34 MST Print View

http://gggwest.com/ -- 38 days and counting!!

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 17:50:14 MST Print View

Just a friendly shout out to John Abela from Hikelighter.com for stepping in to fill in Ken's shoes and for setting up a website for the 2014 G.G.G..

Great to see that we have more manufactures coming out to the event.

John....any news on confirmations from other manufactures?

Thanks again for taking point on this.

I will bring out name tags again for everyone.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again.

With any luck, I can get my family to come along to check out the fun!

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 18:15:22 MST Print View

Hi Tony. I'm easing back in.

+1 on thanking John. He's a good guy and well behaved in the car too.

Trail Designs should be back. Lee and Russ

Gossamer Gear and Tarptent have not replied to multiple messages, Maybe they'll surprise us. Maybe not.

I still have name tags from the last one. They sure do help.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 18:17:06 MST Print View

If anyone is a EMT, WFR, etc... and wouldn't mind being "on call" there would you please PM me.

Edit: Thanks to those who responded.

Edited by kthompson on 12/16/2013 21:45:22 MST.

Jeremy B.
(requiem) - F - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 19:07:02 MST Print View

Hi Ken,

I just got my WFR cert last month, so I'd be up for it.

-Jeremy

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 19:10:11 MST Print View

I have a WTF certificate, would that help?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 19:21:33 MST Print View

Thanks Jeremy.

Doug. If anyone needs medical attention, it's you.

Edited by kthompson on 12/16/2013 21:45:57 MST.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/16/2013 20:53:17 MST Print View

My WFR / EMT certs have lapsed but I'll bring a small trauma kit w/ SAM splints, bandages, etc.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. on 12/16/2013 21:59:53 MST Print View

"Sign me up. GOLD Gear will be there again this year. Looking forward to it and the wood and alcohol stove "burn offs".

Did we decide that there would be two wood categories? Natural aspiration and mechanically-aided?

There has been discussion of the alcohol stove burn off, but no firm rules yet, I think. May I suggest two categories: "Limited" and "Unlimited"? "Limited" would be fastest to boil 2 cups of water using 30 ml of fuel or less (given the cold temps and windy conditions last year, this seems like a fair challenge). "Unlimited" would just be fastest to boil, using any amount of alcohol the stove can use.

Any thought of having an Esbit burn off too?

I'm assembling my competition rigs, getting ready."



I haven't planned any burn offs at this time David.

Competition rigs. That struck me as funny. I visualized set ups with sponsorship stickers on them. Pro fuel.

Is anyone else interested in any kind of burn contests?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. events/activities on 12/16/2013 22:03:54 MST Print View

FYI

There will be NO Gearswap in camp this time. It's always been a cluster and a logistics problem. I think this is best done at the parking lot on Sunday. Discuss.

David Gardner
(GardnerOutdoorLD) - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 01:24:14 MST Print View

Ken,

I'd be willing to take the lead to organize and furnish fuel and a digital scale to measure the water for the burn offs, if there is interest.

Yeah, competition rigs. No decals obviously, but specialized stoves optimized for the competition parameters. I know, I'm over the top. My name is David, and I am a stovie.

Regarding the gear swap, does that apply to vendors too? Should we plan on bringing a sampling of our wares to the campground, or leave them at the parking lot?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 07:03:57 MST Print View

With concerns about the swap. I mean that I won't be trying to setup a particular place and time in camp. It just never works. Yes, some of the vendors will have a sampling of their stuff to display and then sell off. Zelph is sending me a box of stuff to show and give away. Jon from Flat Cat will be bringing a bunch of different setups, and probably sell them off there as samples. Not sure what Jack has on his mind with regards to Borah Gear. Ron and Brian will have the new packs to show off, but have not used the word sell in any of my communications with them. Kat has not said one way or another about her hats and such. So if you have something new to show, bring that. Leave the other stuff in the car. Let the selling happen as conversation dictates. But trying to get everyone there at one time to able to shuttle their stuff to and from camp is just too much of a PITA.

We had sales out of car trunks the first few GGGs and that seemed to work best.

With the burn off. Let's wait a bit and see if there is interest and plan from there.

I'm willing to do what the majority is interested in, regarding any activity. So if you have an opinion, let's hear it everyone.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 07:28:58 MST Print View

I most likely will have very little stock to bring, but I will have some samples and I can teach some folks to knit if there is any interest.
Also, I plan on bringing some trail cameras and showing the different options and set ups.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 11:18:44 MST Print View

I have a brass, Optimus 45 alky does that count? :) We talking UL/SUL stoves only? :)
Duane

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 14:58:19 MST Print View

Ken,

Welcome back and good to see you here.

I agree with not having the gear swap at the campsite.

I think that it would make sense for venders to bring in what they can and want as display/demo items and letting the selling happen in the parking lot.

Plus, this will motivate people to clear out of the campsite on the morning of the last day to get to the parking lot for the gear swap and gear sales for vendors.

Come to think about it....do we want to have a designated time for the gear swap and sale on Sunday morning?

This would allow people who can not make the GGG come out to see, touch, taste, etc the gear from the manufactures and maybe make some sales....if the manufactures wanted to do that.

Again, just an idea.

Regarding name tags....you have some from last year.

Do you need me to bring more???

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 15:11:19 MST Print View

"Come to think about it....do we want to have a designated time for the gear swap and sale on Sunday morning?"

This group is like trying to herd cats. Some want to linger in bed until 9 or later, some are up and gone early. I just don't see it working out.

And yes Tony I have plenty of name tags. But thanks for the offer.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 17:43:18 MST Print View

Ken,

Challenge for 2015 burn off.

Do something twisted like provide the fire starting materials to the participants and see if they can get a fire going.

Example: Fire steel, some tinder, and twigs and wood.

More of a fire building skill with competition to boil water as the time pressure element to the task.

Regarding the gear swap....yeah, like herding cats.

Maybe best to say in the parking lot Sunday....everyone figures it out for themselves.

If you need me to bring any supplies for the GGG, please let me know.

Tony

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. Events/Activities on 12/17/2013 20:17:06 MST Print View

I think the entire stove kit should be packed away in your backpack.

Then, GO...


That's how it's done in the real world.

Michael Driscoll
(Hillhikerz) - M

Locale: Monterey Bay
6th Annual G.G.G. on 12/20/2013 07:59:15 MST Print View

Ken was thinking how I may be able to help out and thought if I brought a good led light for the bathroom at night and a led arrow for the trail into camp, that might be helpful...

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Chez G.G.G. ambiance on 12/20/2013 18:06:04 MST Print View

Already have those bases covered Michael. Thanks for thinking of it though. And thanks too for the offer.

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
Re: Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/21/2013 16:20:43 MST Print View

Greetings!

For the G.G.G. West event coming up in January, we are planning on bringing gear for cooking demonstrations. These demos will include, regular boiling along with dry baking and maybe even some steam baking. We expect to bring 3 full Bobcat Cooking systems with all of the pots and pans needed for the demo. We will also bring several complete Snow Leopard systems, also complete with mugs and pans. I will bring as much stuff that I can fit inside my pack. We also plan on demonstrating different alcohol fuels as well as stoves designed for Esbit and Isopropyl alcohol.

I am planning on bringing various windscreens made from aluminum, stainless steel and of course titanium. These cooking systems will be available for purchase at a discounted price after all of the demonstrations are finished. Completely new systems will be ~20% off and slightly used equipment will have a steeper discount.

If you have a particular piece of equipment that you would like to see, contact me at Jon@flatcatgear.com . See you there! Jon

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Jon from Flatcatgear will be attending the G.G.G. & Demonstrating!!! on 12/23/2013 20:14:32 MST Print View

Jon,

Looking to seeing your gear and demos.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to come out to the G.G.G.

Hope that you will be able to mix pleasure and business while you are out there...sure you will have fun.

I know that I will have some questions about your Epicurean Titanium Stove as a means to get more boils per esbit cubes.

Anyway, excited to see more manufactures come out to make the G.G.G. all the more special.

Tony

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/24/2013 07:57:22 MST Print View

30 days until the 2013 GGG!!!



@Jon/FCG... I would like to see one of those home emergency units. You ever get your website updated and I might order up one of those.


@All, I will probably not be taking most of my gear with me, so if I got anything you might want to see that I have drop me a message and I will get it packed up.


After last years "will cuben fiber melt" test, this year I will be bringing some more CF of different weights to see how the different weight of cuben fiber melts :-D

I will also be bringing some GG LT4's that are totally locked up... and going to have a "bang them against a tree" session... so everybody can see how much abuse they can take before they break. ;)

I am also thinking of dropping the money for another case of handwarmers. They seemed to be fairly popular last year. If I were to do so, would those wanting some, be willing to throw in a buck to help me cover the cost??

Matthew Black
(mtblack)
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/24/2013 08:44:42 MST Print View

I'll pitch in on the hand warmers. They were delightful last year.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. and Events/Activities on 12/24/2013 10:11:28 MST Print View

Jon,

I've exchanged a couple emails with you in the past and I'm happy to hear you will be at GGG.

Sounds like you are bringing what I'd like to see but I'm interested in viewing both of your Isopropyl stoves if at all possible. I'd be happy to bring a bottle of Isopropyl alcohol with me to help free up some space in your pack; let me know.

As far as technique goes, I watched one of your videos yesterday where you fried some eggs/pancakes using diluted alcohol. I'm interested in buying a Banks Alpine Fry-Bake pan (8")later this spring and am interested in using it as part of this system. I would like to pick your brain at GGG to see if that's doable or not. After re-watching Ryan's video, looks like I may be able to do this with without a twig fire on top.

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
Gear Demos at G.G.G. 1/24 -26 on 12/24/2013 10:17:58 MST Print View

Greetings All!

I am compiling a list of gear demos and cooking demos that people would like to see. If you have any particular gear or food that you would like to see let me know and I will see what will fit in my pack. So far, people have requested:

ISO-Clean isopropyl alcohol stove demo
Dry baking
Esbit stoves: Epicurean and Focus Fire 14
Pan frying
The Emergency Kitchen setup.

Best regards,

Jon

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. on 12/24/2013 18:02:39 MST Print View

Speaking of burning things. I will have a fuel dump in the courtesy tent. Some partial canisters, white gas, alcohol, and some Esbit. So if you want to try something new or were forgetful this should help you out. And some matches to go with, of course.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Burning things at the 6th Annual G.G.G. on 12/24/2013 18:05:14 MST Print View

"I will have a fuel dump in the courtesy tent."

Definitely help those of us flying! Thanks!

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/25/2013 17:05:52 MST Print View

Ken, if you get too much white gas if any at all, I can take some off your hands. I go through a few gallons a year, using my old stoves. Kero too. HJ wanted to see one of my rare stoves, but I'll probably leave that in the truck, so he'll have to be at the right place at the right time, I do not want to leave it in my shelter and may not have room in my pack after adding a few gallons of water.
I can finally request time off for 2014, starting on the 26th, just have to navigate thru the new system at work.
Duane
Got thru the new system, I'm in.

Edited by hikerduane on 12/26/2013 08:55:32 MST.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 12/26/2013 17:45:52 MST Print View

Jon,

I doubt that I will need hand warmers, but happy to pitch in some money to help out with your cost.

$10 or $20 bucks....just let me know what you need.

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. needs more room. on 12/30/2013 06:18:26 MST Print View

It's sad that that we have run out of room so quickly. This morning there are ten of you on standby.

Edited by kthompson on 12/31/2013 06:05:39 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 12/31/2013 06:11:18 MST Print View

Good Morning Everybody,
Due to the demand I have added another group spot for our stay at Henry Coe. #6 across the road from the other two. I have contacted those on the standby list for first dibs. For now I will say that I have 15 spots available. Please register here

GGG Registration

These will be the last available spots released. Thanks for your interest and support. I'll see you there.

As always, feel free to PM with any questions.

Edited by kthompson on 01/01/2014 20:26:57 MST.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 12/31/2013 10:15:33 MST Print View

Ken,

Do you need any help with funds for paying for the 2nd spot???

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 12/31/2013 18:01:22 MST Print View

Thanks, but no Tony. I have it covered.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/01/2014 20:25:22 MST Print View

Still waiting to hear from some of those on the standby list. There are 12 more spaces available at the time of this post.

Edited by kthompson on 01/01/2014 20:28:44 MST.

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/01/2014 21:32:33 MST Print View

Would love to come to this, but alas the west coast thang aint easy for some of us east coasters.

Wonder if there is any interest in an east coast version of this at a different time for those of us without the moola, time, etc to make it to the west coast one?

The east coast motto could be, "it won't be as cool, but at least it's a hellava lot closer to you".

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: GGG Franchise on 01/01/2014 21:41:02 MST Print View

Take a look at the underutilized member map and you will see why the Bay Area meet gets the numbers of attendees it does.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=53151

just Justin Whitson
(ArcturusBear)
Re: Re: GGG Franchise on 01/01/2014 22:33:37 MST Print View

Yah, makes sense. Wasn't aware of this map until now.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: GGG Franchise on 01/02/2014 00:33:27 MST Print View

Justin,

I am sure that if you organize an East Coast GGG of your own, it would build up to something like we have over hear.

The 1st one was only attended by about 15-17 people and it slowly grew from there.

In our case, we have been fortunate to have Ken leading the charge on this....he has taken the idea of the GGG from Ken H., who started the 1st GGG, and turned it into the big event that it has become today.

I have picked Ken's brain last year about what advice he would give to someone if they were to organize their own GGG and here is what he came up with:

Tips for Organizing your own Gathering of Gear Geeks:


1. Site Selection

• Number of People Dictates the Location
• Human Waste Disposal Determines suitability of site selection
• Water availability at site
• Are Fires Allowed
• Online Research & Communication


2. Ease of Permit and Location Access

• Keep it simple: no special use permits, no insurance waivers, no hassles
• Parking Lot Size, Availability, and Permits for Vehicles
• Develop a working relationship with Rangers & Park Staff
• Distance Needed to Hike to Campsite Determines How Many Will Attend
• Meeting at the Trail Head or Campsite


3. The Considerate Dictator

• Pick at a Date that is good for YOU- avoid big holidays & vacations
• Creating the Online Invite: One Easy, Informative, and Updated Posting
• Don’t Be Mom; everyone is an adult- just set it up and let them show up


4. Paying for it All

• Expect to Cover Upfront Cost Out of Your Own Pocket
• Low Cost is Key for a Good Turn Out: No renting private ranch or campground
• Clear Posting of Per Person Fees to Attend & How the Money is to be Spent
• Paypal: Easy of Use and Accounting for Who Paid and When They Paid
• List of Who Has and Has Not Paid on clearly listed on the Online Invite/Forum


5. Preparation & Recruiting Help

• Master Check List to Keep on Track & Organized
• Doing a little bit all of the time…spacing out the work load
• Name Tags...help break the ice for everyone, new and old timers
• Pit Toilets/Outhouses: Toilet Paper, Wet Wipes, Glow Sticks, and Air Freshener
• Support Vehicle: Firewood, Duraflame log as fire starter, Water, Water Jugs, Shovel, Broom, Trash can, Trash bags
• Have extras of all the supplies you are taking...especially toilet paper
• On Site: Cleaning out the Fire Pits & Clean Pit Toilets/Outhouses
• Don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help- people will volunteer


6. Fun Activities & Events

• Wood Stove Burn Off- fire making skills
• Encourage people to show off/share their talents: gear collections to show & tell


7. Leaving the Site Better Than You Found It

• Cleaning Up & Packing It Out
• Maintaining Good Working Relationship with Park Rangers and Staff
• Earning the Chance to Return to the Campsite by being considerate park visitors


8. Sharing the Memories

• Posting Photos & Telling the Story Online: Giving a Reason to Do It Again

Note: I have had the pleasure of posting photos of all the G.G.G.s since the first one, I would like to believe that by posting a good trip report with lots of photos of what happened at the GGG has help create interest for people to attend future ones.



Anyway, I hope that this helps...think I will create a separate thread with these tips, with the hope that it might inspire others to organize their own GGG.

Tony

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Caffin Stove Group Ship for GGG; Save $26.25! on 01/03/2014 16:53:01 MST Print View

Can't wait for the GGG. For anyone interested, Roger is able to ship about 8 Caffin stoves in a 1Kg box saving a whopping $21.25 over individual shipping - that's $3.75 shipping/piece instead of $25. I'm only 45 min away and would be happy to bring them. On top of this he's also offering a $5 discount for the GGG.

He recommends ordering by Jan. 8 to get them in time for the GGG. If anyone is interested, please PM me. You would pay Roger directly.

These are the latest stoves and have the upgraded tripod legs Roger has mentioned.

Latest photos of the stove at the bottom of this thread: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=79750&skip_to_post=732829

Stove information in this article in 3 parts: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/caffin-evolution-of-winter-stove-part-3.html#.Ushot9JDuAg

Edited by mountainwalker on 01/04/2014 13:00:44 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Re: Caffin Stove Group Ship for GGG; Save $21.25! on 01/03/2014 17:58:09 MST Print View

Ah well. I have some uncommitted stoves at present. I was expecting them to last a while ... Maybe not.

The closing date for final Paypal to me by 8-Jan. Sounds early, but the speed of the Post is a bit variable. Be painful if they turned up a day late! But you need to get in early so I can sort out the postage details. Postage would be to EJ, who would then take them to the GGG.

The stove (any version) costs $140, but if you are a member of BPL the cost is reduced to $125. For the GGG I will drop to $120 per stove, plus Paypal fee of about $5.40, plus postage.

Post and packing for a 1 kg box sent by Registered Post to USA will cost about $32. This has to be divided up among the buyers. The box and packing weigh 200 - 250 g, leaving 750 g for the stoves. A stove weighs ~85 g, so IN THEORY I can get 8 stoves in one box. I would have to use a larger box than normal in order to have enough room for enough bubble wrap, but I have allowed for that. Assuming there are 8 orders, that makes P&P of $4 per stove. Let's run with that for now.

Once we get over 1 kg the P&P jumps to about $55. That gets more expensive, and I don't have too many more than 8 stoves ready right now anyhow.

All stoves are tested in three ways before shipping. They are pressure tested (underwater) for leaks with the stove control valve turned off. They are tested for gas flow to make sure the jet and valve are not blocked. Finally, they are 'burn-tested' to make sure they work how they should. This last test means the burner will not look 'new', as it has had a flame on it.

Regardless of all of that, if you have any problems in this beta-test phase, please contact me. First of all, I WANT to know what problems are found: that's what a beta test is about. A couple of small items have been reported and fixed already - mainly individual problems generally confined to one stove. Anyhow, any faults found WILL be identified and fixed.

So, if you want a beta-test stove at the GGG discount, contact me FAST via roger@backpackinglight.com .

Cheers

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Caffin Stove Group Ship for GGG; Save $21.25! on 01/03/2014 18:06:38 MST Print View

How about a link to these stoves?

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Link to Caffin 3 oz inverted canister stove article and thread; GGG & shipping discount on 01/04/2014 13:10:05 MST Print View

Doug I just edited my post above to include the link to Roger's stove article and photos and the latest forum thread (which I also posted below). This is an inverted remote very low CO canister stove that weighs only 3 oz.

There are already two buyers so the shipping is now only $16 instead of $25 and there's an additional $5 discount for GGG attendees, for a $14 total discount. With another two buyers shipping will drop to only $8 each for a $22 total discount and so on. With 8 buyers, it's a $26 total discount.

These are the latest stoves and have the upgraded tripod legs Roger has mentioned.

Latest photos of the stove at the bottom of this thread: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=79750&skip_to_post=732829

Stove information in this article in 3 parts: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/caffin-evolution-of-winter-stove-part-3.html#.Ushot9JDuAg

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/04/2014 13:16:35 MST Print View

Aside from meeting some of my favorite folks in the flesh, the GGG is just about the best time to see an amazing variety of high quality light cottage gear in one place - an amazing resource for comparing shelters, packs, sleep systems, etc.

Ken is there a place where everyone can list items they are bringing that others might want to check out, so you know who to seek out at the GGG?

Or might there be an area or planned activity to place like gear items together for people to see/handle? My apologies if this has been mentioned already - haven't read the whole thread.

I'll be happy to post photos/video again for folks who can't make it or who live far away - though that doesn't seem to be stopping Doug : )

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/04/2014 16:23:37 MST Print View

With as many as we have coming what won't we have there? Seriously, I don't have a place to list that anywhere here. Should another thread be started? I can put the link in the first post of this thread to help guide people to it.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Re: Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/04/2014 17:06:20 MST Print View

"With as many as we have coming what won't we have there?" Agreed : ) The problem: so many people, so much gear, so little time. It makes it sooo much easier when you know that John X is bringing Y and Z.

I like the idea of a separate thread with a link to it in the first post of this thread.

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/04/2014 19:27:12 MST Print View

It makes it sooo much easier when you know that John X is bringing Y and Z.


John A will be bring this stuff (and probably more) to use and let others play with.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/05/2014 12:32:55 MST Print View

"I like the idea of a separate thread with a link to it in the first post of this thread."

Done.


Whatcha Bringing?

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: Re: Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/05/2014 13:09:59 MST Print View

I'll be going SUL.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/05/2014 15:04:16 MST Print View

Please bring your UL finery. No awards given for the lightest pack at this event.

Three weeks from now at this time it will be over, and we'll be headed back north.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: GGG list of gear you're bringing (shelter, packs, sleeping bags, quilts, stoves, cookpots, etc.) on 01/05/2014 15:10:36 MST Print View

Enough folks won't mind bringing extra food, water, distilled or brewed drinks, shelter, wood, wipes, Heet packets, chairs etc. that all be covered.


Edited to add.
I am putting together my list and will post it once I make up my mind. For sure it will be a hammock though.

Edited by Kat_P on 01/05/2014 15:12:40 MST.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
May only be 2 Caffin stoves left on 01/05/2014 15:57:58 MST Print View

Will confirm with Roger, but looks like there may be only 2 stoves left in this GGG batch.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
How about a GGG Gear Swap thread? on 01/05/2014 16:02:13 MST Print View

Ken can we set up a thread for what people plan to bring to Trade/Sell at the GGG Gear Swap? The cottage guys like Kat's Mountaingoat Hats and Goods, Flat Cat Gear, SMD, Trail Designs could post what they're bringing as well. I have no problem starting the thread, but wanted to ask first in case someone already has a list going.

Edited by mountainwalker on 01/05/2014 16:03:36 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: How about a GGG Gear Swap thread? on 01/05/2014 18:49:49 MST Print View

OK OK I'll get back to work.

Gearswap thread here.

GGG Gear Swap Live!

Edited by kthompson on 01/05/2014 18:55:18 MST.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Only 2 stoves left Re: Caffin Stove Group Ship for GGG; Save $26.25! on 01/05/2014 20:11:13 MST Print View

So far 6 are claimed and only 2 stoves remain for this group ship (only 8 stoves can fit in the 1 Kg box). Please contact Roger to paypal him $120 + $5.40 in Paypal fees for the stove; please hold off on paypaling shipping to me until the total per person is known.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/06/2014 20:41:21 MST Print View

Almost full once again. 2 spots left. That will be all there will be this time. I will not add on anymore.

Edited by kthompson on 01/09/2014 08:14:47 MST.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/06/2014 23:08:34 MST Print View

Sent you a PM, Ken.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Directions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/07/2014 21:27:56 MST Print View

I don't care to install some new MapQuest app, so found directions/map thru Google Maps. I'll be coming from the East, down out of the mountains to 99, then to 5 from Stockton, snow permitting as this seems the shortest route. Taking 5 south to 152 and Gilroy, heading north after Gilroy on 101. Which exit do I take for E Dunne Ave. to get to the Park? Is it marked/signed? Some other info I got, had me turning on yet another road every few tenths of a mile or so it seemed. Too much info to write down and I don't have a GPS. I use wet-finger-in-the-wind technology. With the Google info, I only need 8 points of info to read in 3 hours of driving.
I can see if I can locate a couple maps also.
hikerduane at aaahawk dot com
Duane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Directions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/07/2014 21:38:06 MST Print View

http://coepark.net/pineridgeassociation/planning-your-visit/visitor-centers-and-park-entrances/visitor-center

There is a sign on 101 northbound. Take the East Dunne Ave exit from 101 Just stay on that to the top of the hill and the park HQ

I love Google Earth for stuff like this,

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: Directions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/07/2014 22:32:19 MST Print View

Take the East Dunne Ave exit off 101, and head East, a right turn if you are coming from 152.

In about 2.8 miles, at the only thing that looks like a fork in the road, stay right on East Dunne Ave, sign for "Henry W Coe State Park 10 miles".

Go to the end of the road to reach Park Headquarters.

-- Rex

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: Directions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/07/2014 22:40:17 MST Print View

I will try to remember to mount my recorder onto the window of Kens van as we head into HC this year, so next year we can have a short video showing how to get up to the spot, once you turn off 101.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Directions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/08/2014 09:07:50 MST Print View

Thank you Ken and Rex. Foreign country down there for me. I took my mom to Modesto about 8 years ago to a 50th Anniversary for a couple she knew from when we lived there. The party was at my Grandparents old house. Never would have recognized it except for the two Cedar trees out front.
Duane

Michael Driscoll
(Hillhikerz) - M

Locale: Monterey Bay
Road to H. Coe on 01/08/2014 13:56:41 MST Print View

as Rex said the only real spot one can get lost (having been there tons of times, its easy for me to say) is the weird fork in the road at 2.8 or 2.9 miles from the freeway off ramp... the rest is just taking your time going slow and enjoy the drive... a couple of those hairpins feel like your going to hit your own rear end going around them...

road to h coe

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Road to H. Coe on 01/08/2014 14:03:22 MST Print View

Thanks Michael. The online map makes it look like its miles from the freeway. Hoping to get to camp before dark or sooner Thursday. Gotta make some noise for Ken Friday AM when I fire up a couple old stoves for coffee water and breakfast.
Duane

Jack H.
(Found) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA
Ride from Sac? on 01/08/2014 19:08:15 MST Print View

I'd love to carpool from Sacramento. Anyone?

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
SF Bay Area GGG Film, for anyone wondering what to expect on 01/08/2014 22:50:03 MST Print View

This is a little valentine Ms. EJ and I put together for all the wonderful friends we’ve made, the many helpful things we’ve learned and the amazingly creative gear makers we’ve met.

http://vimeo.com/36630858

For those sitting on the fence about coming to the GGG, don’t be shy - you’ll have a great time and learn a lot.

Backpackers Gone Wild: BPL 3rd Annual SF Bay Area Gathering of Gear Geeks (GGG) 2011

Some memorable moments:

-The Gear Stove Boil-Off – WARNING this gets HOT!
-What happens in Coe stays in Coe and things that go bump in the night
-How Tony makes it through a cold lonely night
-Richard Nisley guest interview
-Styrofoam snow and picnicking BPL style
-What lightweight backpackers really sound like
-Debbie’s first place win for shared item
-The next Backpackers Gone Wild casting event

[NOTE - the 2011 trip was in January not February]

Edited by mountainwalker on 01/08/2014 23:00:22 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/09/2014 20:30:09 MST Print View

NO VACANCY
I can't believe how this event has grown. Filled the third spot today. Will go through the list again to make sure I haven't miss counted anyone. I will not be taking anymore registrations at this time. I will post here if I get a cancellation.

Edited by kthompson on 01/09/2014 21:34:17 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. signs/directions on 01/10/2014 21:03:23 MST Print View

I made up a series of signs to help people take the right path and find the proper group spots. You'll start to see them on East Dunne. They look like this.

gggsign

As you see I am not a professional sign painter. The ones on the trail near camp will be lit at night.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Directions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/11/2014 19:49:43 MST Print View

Another shot of the only point along the way from 101 that could be a problem.


hc

Stay right.

Edited by kthompson on 01/21/2014 21:29:31 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Questions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/12/2014 08:42:35 MST Print View

Woo Hoo!
I hit the road and head on down in 10 days. Now that means I will be on the road and unavailable to answer questions. Inevitably there are always a few folks who need to know something last minute. The forum family here has been great with stepping forward and helping out as much as they can. I just wanted to thank all of you for being helpful. Those of you who are coming for the first time I ask that you take a look at all the info given. If you still have questions or concerns please post here, PM me,whatever by next Sunday so that I can get you an answer.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Questions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/12/2014 09:23:49 MST Print View

How about adding a link in the first post to the NOAA weather for where we'll be camping?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: Questions? 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/12/2014 10:57:11 MST Print View

Well there are links to all that kind of stuff on the gggwest site. But since it's you who asked...

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
GGG weather links on 01/12/2014 11:02:50 MST Print View

Official NWS forecast for the park:

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=37.1869214&lon=-121.5471379

Stats for the nearby automated weather station:

http://raws.wrh.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/roman/meso_base.cgi?stn=TT119

or this easier version:

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=37.168%2C-121.528&sp=MTT119

Description of how that weather station got there:
http://www.coeparkfund.org/content/weather.html

We might be able to see that weather station from the GGG camp sites.

-- Rex

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: GGG weather links on 01/12/2014 11:23:46 MST Print View

Thanks Rex

Link in the first post just like you asked Doug.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Re: GGG weather links on 01/12/2014 18:21:27 MST Print View

Hi Ken, I just went to the website and registered and then came here and read it's all full. No worries, I'm glad it looks like it's going to be a well-attended event. I'm going to try to day-hike in on Saturday to at least check out some of the gear and meet some of you folks. :)

Doug

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Doug Smith and the GGG on 01/12/2014 18:32:56 MST Print View

You're not getting out of it that easily. I've been waiting for you. Message sent.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Doug Smith and the GGG on 01/12/2014 21:26:03 MST Print View

Hahaha, roger. Paid and thanks!

:)

Edited by Jedi5150 on 01/12/2014 21:28:54 MST.

peter vacco
(fluff@inreach.com) - M

Locale: no. california
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/12/2014 22:02:05 MST Print View

no vacancy my butt. what is to stop somebody from driving up there and camping at some other site, but still visiting the Big Thing ?
noth'n .. that's what.

it don't matter where ya'll sleep, so long you're not too blitzed to find it.

cheers,
v.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/13/2014 06:54:42 MST Print View

"no vacancy my butt. what is to stop somebody from driving up there and camping at some other site, but still visiting the Big Thing ?
noth'n .. that's what."

We gonna see you there Peter?

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/13/2014 12:56:18 MST Print View

And will you be blitzed?

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. vacancies on 01/13/2014 13:02:17 MST Print View

"And will you be blitzed?"

If he shows, I'll ensure he gets a start. I'm bringing a bottle of 16-year-old Aberlour, and Peter is one of my favorite people! I'll definitely reserve some for him.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
6TH Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014/ Mississippi Lake Hike on 01/13/2014 19:39:21 MST Print View

Hello friends! I heading out to Mississippi Lake early Friday morning(1/24)and will spend the night out at the lake and should be back to the G.G.G. around NOON on Saturday. It is a 24 mile round trip so lets burns some calories and get in shape for the hiking season! I most likely will spend the night at Park Headquarters Thursday night to get early start on Friday. If any interest just PM Me.

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Edited by Creachen on 01/13/2014 19:52:49 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 06:48:07 MST Print View

10 days and counting...

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 11:10:10 MST Print View

Ken,

What time are you planning to drive into the Campsite on Saturday?

I can bring a few duraflame logs again as fire starter logs for the fires.

Depending on when you are heading in, I can see about getting the family up out of bed to hit the road earlier vs. later.

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 19:13:21 MST Print View

Tony, Marc and I and the rest of the caravan will head in on Friday to get things set up and get good spots for ourselves :) Bring some logs with you as we can help you work through that pile of those. We will have some cyclists with us. Perhaps one will volunteer to shuttle a load of logs in. We'll figure something out. Maybe the SMD van can haul them in if they head in on Saturday. I will let you know.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 21:04:35 MST Print View

If I can help anyone out:

I'll be flying down from Portland on Friday, arriving at noon. I'm renting a car, driving to Morgan Hill for any last minute things (and In-and-Out Burger, because, well, burgers) and heading up to the park. The only issue is that I'm going to leave on Sunday morning early enough to head up to Palo Alto to see an old friend, so I won't be able to drive anyone back with me.

Ken, out of curiosity, what campsite is the group at? The Manzanita one or the Poverty Flat one?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 21:09:26 MST Print View

Ken, out of curiosity, what campsite is the group at? The Manzanita one or the Poverty Flat one?

Manzanita Point ones Steven. You'll see the signs and hoards of people avoiding Doug.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 21:20:12 MST Print View

"You'll see the signs and hoards of people avoiding Doug."

I'll be the one with a mini campsite all to myself - though not necessarily by choice.....

David W.
(Davidpcvsamoa) - MLife

Locale: East Bay, CA
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 21:41:01 MST Print View

If anyone wants to carpool I will be driving from the Modesto area to Coe on Friday. I can do a pick up along the way (Livermore, Fremont, San Jose, Etc.). I am flexible about the timing.

Send me a PM if interested.

Joshua Billings
(Joshua) - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz,Ca
Biking to coe from santa cruz to coe on 01/14/2014 22:17:58 MST Print View

Hey everybody, I will be biking from santa cruz/Watsonville to coe on thursday morning. Going over mt. madonna rd. to redwood retreat rd. to watsonville rd. and eventually going into the park at the hunting hallow/coyote creek entrance in the late afternoon/evening. I will camp somewhere in the backcountry that night(near a lake). If anyone wants to meet up and ride part of the way or all of the way I would be into that. I have a touring bike with panniers so I am a bit slow on the dirt roads( no suspension) but i can move at a decent clip on the road if any roadies want to race.haha. So I'll see y'all there on friday sometime. Maybe I'll see you at mississippi Jay. Also I have a 600 gallon water tank that would fit in Marc's truck or you could use my truck if you need more water but someone would have to drive it since i'll be biking. Also, because of the steep hill i would only put about350- 400 gallons in it. Just a though.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Water truck on 01/14/2014 22:22:10 MST Print View

Awesome offer Josh. Marc added on another 40 gallons to what he is bringing. With that I think we'll be fine. Thanks.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/14/2014 22:54:52 MST Print View

A word about park staff and volunteers. Henry Coe always has funding issues.This manifests itself most noticeably with staff. The volunteers that do most of the admin tasks at the HQ will be busy with us. Be patient and understanding with them. This is the biggest gathering we have had there so expect getting your parking passes and what-not to take a little extra time.

There is precious little parking at the top. Please do your thing, and go park at the overflow lot that you passed on your way up.

Those of you who have been before I am sure will be more than glad to help guide people where they need to go.

I hope the new signage eliminates any confusion one the way to camp.

Thanks in advance for everyone being their awesome selves. Thanks to Marc, Tony, and John for their generosity and help.

Can't wait to see you all!

Jane Baack
(JaneB.) - MLife
Peter's headnets at GGG-possible??? on 01/15/2014 17:22:29 MST Print View

Peter Vacco-
Just read in Gear Forum and on your website that you've stopped headnet production for now, taking a deserved break. Any chance you could bring any of your famous nets to GGG 6 and give BPLers one more chance to get your nets on Sat. or Sun.? If so, I'm ready to stand in line!

+1 to Ken's suggestion to be patient with Coe staff. It helps if you can bring cash for the parking permit. Don't know amount, assume it's on website. These folks have been helpful to us in so many ways in the past and I'm sure they will continue that this year. We are a very large group so it will take some time to process the forms. A good chance to meet others, also patiently waiting in line!

Jane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
GGG Parking $8 day on 01/15/2014 18:40:49 MST Print View

This is payable at the visitor center, or the iron ranger out front. They do accept checks. Jane makes a great point. Try not to need change.

Thanks for everyones cooperation.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
6TH Annual G.G.G 1/24-26 on 01/15/2014 18:48:17 MST Print View

Thank You Ken for all your dedication and support! You are the Man, Man!

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Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6TH Annual G.G.G 1/24-26 on 01/15/2014 18:59:07 MST Print View

Thanks Jay. The van will be there sans letters. The missing trim piece is back on. Home away from home.

Weather forecast looks fantastic. No mention of a storm of the century like before.

I'll see you in eight days.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:03:24 MST Print View

"Weather forecast looks fantastic. No mention of a storm of the century like before."

Wonder if the Donner Party thought the weather was going to be nice, too.

Do we eat Doug first? Seems like if we decide now, it'll save all sorts o' trouble.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:06:41 MST Print View

"Do we eat Doug first?"

You really want that much fat in your diet?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:09:11 MST Print View

"Do we eat Doug first?"


How much is bacon?

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:15:06 MST Print View

Steve,

I can not eat Doug....I am forbidden from eating of the Swine. :)


@ Everyone else: Probably goes without saying, but given how many of us there are, we want to make sure that when we leave, we pick up any bits of trash to pack out or to put into the trash cans. Through Ken and self policing, we have done a great job over the years to try to leave the campsites as good, if not better than we found them. Think we have earned the Park's trust and the privledge of being able to come back year after year.

Though, it is a good thing that we don't let the park staff see Doug....he might ruin it for us. :)

Tony

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:29:08 MST Print View

Question:

Does California formally recognize "Loincloth Saturdays"?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:32:28 MST Print View

Does California formally recognize "Loincloth Saturdays"?

Legal only with permit

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:36:31 MST Print View

"Legal only with permit"

Same in Washington but I've found that saying "This is the way of my people" seems to confuse the inquiring officer long enough for me to skip away.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. on 01/15/2014 19:37:35 MST Print View

Concealed carry is all I care about.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 07:10:33 MST Print View

I head down one week from today. Any questions?

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 07:18:44 MST Print View

Is there really going to be a band??

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 08:05:41 MST Print View

Doug is coming. How much entertainment do you need?

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 09:11:05 MST Print View

I don't need more than that :)
Just saw Jay's post about a band coming; maybe he meant he's bringing in speakers for all of Henry Coe :-)

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 09:13:39 MST Print View

"Doug is coming. How much entertainment do you need?"

C'mon now, we all know that in person I'm a shy wallflower...

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 09:29:30 MST Print View

"Is there really going to be a band??"

While I wish I was wrong, if there is one, it won't be QOTSA.

I'd be happy to sing you a tune at the GGG but I'm still operating under a court order which prevents me from doing so. I say I'm unique. They say my singing voice is a crime against humanity. Whatever.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G.last minute questions on 01/16/2014 18:23:45 MST Print View

"C'mon now, we all know that in person I'm a shy wallflower..."

Yes, but still entertaining.

No band that I am aware of. But it is CA, anything is possible.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
6TH Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/16/2014 18:39:51 MST Print View

024
Yes, The Queens of the Stone Age will be playing in my tent and so will the Deftones.
Ken said it is OK.

Jane Baack
(JaneB.) - MLife
Queens of the Stone Age ...and Deftones on 01/16/2014 21:19:56 MST Print View

Jay,I'm protesting that comment. I'm not THAT old (Stone Age?!?), my hearing(Deftones?) is still good and I definitely won't be playing in your tent-I've got my own. I think age discrimination is going on here and I'm gonna tell Ken on you! Tony will want to know about this too. You may have to stay out at Mississippi Lake the whole weekend if you keep offending the little old ladies at GGG 6.

Jane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. IMPORTANT READ on 01/17/2014 19:53:45 MST Print View

Bring warm clothes for standing around at night without a campfire.

Got the call from Coe that a campfire ban is in effect due to dry conditions. No campfires, no charcoal fires. Stoves OK. Did not ask about Esbit and alcohol.

Bummer. I know. But for once the weather forecast is with us.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. IMPORTANT READ on 01/17/2014 20:14:40 MST Print View

Well then Doug will have to bring something to make up for not having a fire.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. IMPORTANT READ on 01/17/2014 20:23:26 MST Print View

I can bring a Coleman lantern or two

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. IMPORTANT READ on 01/17/2014 21:04:50 MST Print View

"Well then Doug will have to bring something to make up for not having a fire."

Like a fire movie to play on his projector?

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/17/2014 21:10:40 MST Print View

From weather.com (for Morgan Hill); there's a big swing from the low 70s to the low 30s each day:

Henry Coe Weather shot

Edited by saparisor on 01/17/2014 21:11:11 MST.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. IMPORTANT READ on 01/17/2014 21:42:59 MST Print View

Fire footage on a projector and a propane heater is the only solution to this.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/17/2014 21:46:56 MST Print View

Wunderground forecast shows lows 10 degree warmer. We'll see.

Richard Niemi
(rickniemi) - F - M

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains
"6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 01/17/2014 22:10:20 MST Print View

Weather temps -
I live in the hills on the West side of Morgan Hill. Unless something strange happens (the weather actually turning into winter) there is no way it will be in the 30s at night at Coe Park at Manzanita Camp. I've been sleeping with my door open and screen door closed. It's warm in these hills. It's 9:10pm now and it's 62­ degrees. At the bottom of my hill in the valley it has been in the 30s by morning. Eeah, maybe it's colder in Coe. Who knows?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
6th Annual G.G.G. Weather on 01/17/2014 22:18:29 MST Print View

Thanks Rick.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
GGG Fire Ban on 01/18/2014 06:31:53 MST Print View

I have e mailed everyone who signed up to inform them of this.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: GGG Fire Ban on 01/18/2014 07:54:04 MST Print View

http://www.sltrib.com/outdoors/ci_12715936

For many people, camping without a fire would be like making a s'more without a graham cracker.

But growing use of the backcountry and developed campgrounds, coupled with environmental and fire danger concerns, has led to more restrictions on traditional wood campfires.


Another increasingly popular alternative is to purchase a propane fire pit, some not unlike gas logs popular in homes. Two Utah companies, Camp Chef in Logan, and Wheel Campfire in West Valley City, produce fires fueled by traditional propane tanks. Wheel Campfire also offers accessories that include heating racks for Dutch ovens and a wok.

While these propane fires don't provide the smoky ambiance of a traditional wood fire, they do offer advantages. They are legal during fire bans and light instantly on cold mornings or when the weather is bad.

"If it has a valve and when you turn it off it goes out immediately, then you are okay [during a ban]," said Reid Shelley, assistant fire management officer for prevention for the Wasatch-Cache-Uinta National Forest.

http://www.sltrib.com/outdoors/ci_12715936

Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
Re: Re: GGG Fire Ban on 01/18/2014 09:06:06 MST Print View

"For many people, camping without a fire would be like making a s'more without a graham cracker."

Wow... that's great... no fires, no smoke... in that case, maybe I'll change my mind and come to the event!

Billy

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
GGG Fire Ban on 01/18/2014 09:10:05 MST Print View

I've run into "churchy" people up north here in the Caribou Wilderness who after I informed them campfires were banned due to high fire danger and was posted at the TH also, told me it was a tradition for them to have a campfire when camping. Well too bad. Don't burn me out of my home. You can go home, I'll have to look at a burnt forest for the rest of my life. They were nice folks, but did not get it. I hope bpers understand the meaning and take it to heart and try not to skirt the law because they want to use a alcohol stove just to save weight. Get another stove!
Duane

Tony Ronco
(tr-browsing) - MLife
Re: Re: Re: GGG Fire Ban on 01/18/2014 15:02:48 MST Print View

From the link Dan Yeruski provided: http://www.sltrib.com/outdoors/ci_12715936

" Another increasingly popular alternative is to purchase a propane fire pit, some not unlike gas logs popular in homes. Two Utah companies, Camp Chef in Logan, and Wheel Campfire in West Valley City, produce fires fueled by traditional propane tanks. Wheel Campfire also offers accessories that include heating racks for Dutch ovens and a wok.

While these propane fires don't provide the smoky ambiance of a traditional wood fire, they do offer advantages. They are legal during fire bans and light instantly on cold mornings or when the weather is bad.

'If it has a valve and when you turn it off it goes out immediately, then you are okay [during a ban],' said Reid Shelley, assistant fire management officer for prevention for the Wasatch-Cache-Uinta National Forest. "


... probably a bit too heavy for backpacking

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
GGG Campfire is a go on 01/18/2014 17:02:30 MST Print View

There will be two propane fire pits at the GGG.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: GGG Campfire is a go on 01/18/2014 22:15:54 MST Print View

Holy crap, how are you pulling that off!?

Fire pits?

Either way, that is awesome.

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: GGG Campfire is a go on 01/18/2014 22:18:36 MST Print View

BPL magic Tony. It's pretty awesome.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: GGG Campfire is a go on 01/20/2014 11:02:02 MST Print View

If it's helpful to anyone, here's a marked up interactive Satellite photo/map of the GGG area at Henry Coe S.P. You'll have to zoom in (a lot) to make sense of the Park HQ area.

Generally, I believe they want you to park in the big lot I've marked "GGG Parking". There's a little trail (shown in blue) to the Park HQ area where you pay your Park fee.

You'll then want to proceed to the Manzanita Point group camp sites, about 2 miles in. I'm not sure which site(s) are ours this year; inquire at the Park HQ. The trail route is shown in red. Note that the trailhead is very close to the Park HQ.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Re: GGG Campfire is a go on 01/20/2014 12:09:44 MST Print View

Here's a photo map of the parking area, Park HQ, and trailhead. Click to enlarge.



HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Excellent GGG Map on 01/20/2014 13:12:26 MST Print View

Thanks Jim. Fantastic.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Excellent GGG Map on 01/20/2014 14:49:48 MST Print View

You're welcome, Ken.

By the way, all of the way points and tracks are exportable to either KML or GPX format which can presumably be loaded into Google Earth (KML) or loaded onto a Garmin GPS device (GPX). I downloaded the GPX points, and they look good, but I haven't tried loading it onto my Garmin eTrex 30. I'll try that tonight if I have time.

Might be handy if someone were to pull in after dark.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Excellent GGG Map w/waypoints on 01/20/2014 15:34:04 MST Print View

With Jim's map and John's website with all the links I don't want to hear how anybody didn't know how to get there, what to find there, etc... It's been the best time ever so far. 4 days before and nary a peep. Must be working.
Thanks everyone.

Erik G
(fox212) - F

Locale: THE Bay Area :)
Question about parking and fee on 01/20/2014 17:19:50 MST Print View

Can I just park in the overflow lot and walk to the HQ and pay my parking fees, then head to the group site?

OR do I have to get a physical parking permit from the HQ and put it in my car? I've never been to Coe before, so not sure how the parking and fees work. I'm sure I'll figure it out one way or another :)



CAN'T WAIT!!!

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Question about parking and fee on 01/20/2014 17:28:06 MST Print View

Erik,

I think there's something you're supposed to put in your window, but my memory is a little hazy. There is an Iron Ranger, so I think you can take care of your fee at the "overflow" parking lot and then just stop by the HQ if you need maps or directions.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Question about parking and fee on 01/20/2014 18:08:42 MST Print View

"OR do I have to get a physical parking permit from the HQ and put it in my car? "

Yes.

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
6TH Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 Mississippi Lake Hike before the Gathering! on 01/20/2014 18:46:07 MST Print View

Leaving early Friday morning to Mississippi Lake and I will spend the night out there plus return to the GATHERING around noon on Saturday. A great hike before the party begins at the G.G.G.!!
397

405
Soundgarden will be performing at Mississippi Lake

Edited by Creachen on 01/20/2014 18:47:00 MST.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/20/2014 18:55:49 MST Print View

Jay, I'm sorry to say that Soundgarden had to cancel; here's the replacement band:

one direction

Have fun!

Jay Wilkerson
(Creachen) - MLife

Locale: East Bay
6TH Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/20/2014 19:30:52 MST Print View

LOL!!!!! How about Green Day?

444

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: GGG Waypoints on 01/20/2014 20:25:04 MST Print View

I exported the map that I posted earlier and then imported it into Garmin Basecamp. The points plot, and everything looks good at least with the high level map that comes with Basecamp.

So, you should be able to export and load to your GPS if your GPS is compatible with GPX format, possibly KML also although I haven't tried that.

HJ
Adventures in Stoving
Hikin Jim's Blog

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Mapquest on 01/21/2014 09:56:05 MST Print View

The universe seems to be conspiring to derail this trip for me but looks like Houston has cleared me for launch.

Here are the driving instructions per MapQuest; do these look correct?

20. Merge onto I-680 S via EXIT 40 toward Benicia/San Jose.

21. Merge onto US-101 S toward Los Angeles 25.2 mi

22. Take the Masten Ave exit. 0.4 mi

23. Turn left onto Masten Ave. If you reach US-101 S you've gone about 0.2 miles too far 1.0 mi

24. Turn right onto Center Ave. 0.4 mi

25. Take the 2nd left onto Rucker Ave. Rucker Ave is 0.3 miles past Villa Real Ct
If you reach Omar Ave you've gone about 0.5 miles too far 0.8 mi

26. Turn right onto New Ave. 1.6 mi

27. Turn left onto Roop Rd. Roop Rd is 0.1 miles past Justin Morgan Dr
If you reach Dryden Ave you've gone about 0.3 miles too far 1.9 mi

28. Turn left to stay on Roop Rd. 1.3 mi

29. Roop Rd becomes Gilroy Hot Springs Rd. 3.4 mi

30. [4200-4699] GILROY HOT SPRINGS RD.
Your destination is 0.7 miles past Canada Rd
If you reach the end of Gilroy Hot Springs Rd you've gone about 2.7 miles too far

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Mapquest on 01/21/2014 10:05:49 MST Print View

That doesn't sound right. You should be on E Dunne Ave. let me look it up.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: Mapquest on 01/21/2014 10:13:56 MST Print View

Ian,

I think that's taking you to another entrance, not the entrance you want. Try these Google directions. They're arbitrarily from the Oakland airport, but you can customize your start point as suits you.

EDIT: if the link isn't working, try cutting and pasting this: http://goo.gl/maps/7xpqc

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Edited by hikin_jim on 01/21/2014 10:18:56 MST.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Mapquest on 01/21/2014 10:17:47 MST Print View

Thanks Jim. I see a discrepancy with the address but I know the address for some of our local parks are off site so I wasn't sure.

Edit: We were typing at the same time. I just looked at the link for Google and will use them instead. Thanks for your help.

Edited by IDBLOOM on 01/21/2014 10:21:28 MST.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Google Map for Henry Coe State Park on 01/21/2014 10:28:36 MST Print View

Basically, you just get off the 101 onto E Dunne Ave and keep going until you get to Henry Coe State Park. Click to enlarge


HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Google Map for Henry Coe State Park on 01/21/2014 11:09:32 MST Print View

I had issues too, until I went with a different source and came up with the E Dunne Rd. Fewer points to check in my 5 hour drive. Still need to get a newer CA map in case I end up in downtown Fresno.
Feeling better, hope to still go, family situ is looking much better. Been loaded since Saturday, just need a few dinners and some more breakfast food.
Duane

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Google Map for Henry Coe State Park on 01/21/2014 11:19:48 MST Print View

Been loaded since Saturday...
Well, I do hope you'll sober up before you drive down, Duane. You can always get loaded again once you arrive...

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/21/2014 13:54:43 MST Print View

Ian,

Just choose "Morgan Hill, CA" as your destination instead of Henry Coe State Park. There are 3 exits for Morgan Hill; Dunne St is the middle one.

All:

What are folks bringing for insulation, standing around camp? I'm unable to get my head wrapped around the idea that it is nearly summer conditions at Henry Coe. Also, it looks like a rain shell isn't really necessary this weekend. Thoughts?

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Loaded for beer on 01/21/2014 14:00:21 MST Print View

HJ, I'll be hitting it hard Friday and Saturday, I'm bringing three SN Celebration Ales, stand back. :) Ken is hauling my chair. Who has the ice concession?
I can't quite wrap around either to go prepped for a summer like trip. I have some down gear, but a summer quilt (new).
Duane

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Stayin' Warm @ the G.G.G. on 01/21/2014 14:57:00 MST Print View

I'm thinking it'll still be plenty cold at night. Probably not freezing conditions, but cold enough. I'm for sure bringing a down sweater and a shell. Not sure about the down pants; probably won't need them. I'm bringing my Summerlite bag (32F/0C rating) and a 3/4 length NeoAir (to be used with my backpack under my feet. I'm going to use a light weight bivy under my tarp since it might be windy according to the forecast.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
GGG Night Time Temps? on 01/21/2014 15:20:25 MST Print View

> I have some down gear, but a summer quilt (new).
Bring your quilt and your down gear. If it gets too cold for the quilt, wear the down gear under the quilt, yes?

Click to enlarge.


Could it really be that warm at night? They're predicting temps down in the 30's in nearby Morgan Hill. I think I'm going to plan for temps in the 40's at night.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Edited by hikin_jim on 01/21/2014 15:22:47 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Mapquest on 01/21/2014 20:43:43 MST Print View

Thanks for steering Ian the right way.

Edited by kthompson on 01/21/2014 20:45:20 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Weather at GGG on 01/21/2014 20:57:24 MST Print View

It is nearly 8PM It is still 57 degrees out. 46 at 6AM Pretty mild. But standing around, well I am bringing a jacket certainly.

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Mapquest on 01/21/2014 21:06:52 MST Print View

"Thanks for steering Ian the right way.'

Never an easy task I must admit.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: Re: Mapquest on 01/21/2014 21:25:31 MST Print View

"Never an easy task I must admit."

I see it was a group effort. Take a look at this photo of the confusing intersection. The rest of your drive is simple. This might be your only hiccup.
hc

Stay right. It gets real windy and narrow. 10 miles more and you are there. Those coming by bicycle, you're animals.

Edited by kthompson on 01/21/2014 21:27:56 MST.

Brian Johns
(bcutlerj) - M

Locale: NorCal
Re: Fire and Rain on 01/21/2014 22:39:07 MST Print View

I'm thinking if everyone vows not to bring a rain shell, and if in fact nobody brings a rain shell to the GGG, our collective odds of getting some rain in this state might actually improve. This would be directly proportional to the increased individual odd that each of will get rain sheerly because of murphy's law with respect to forgotten rain gear. Anyway, worth a shot.

On a more serious note, are we definitive on alcohol stoves? I'm thinking a canister stove will be best for me, but wanted to know if, for example, the burn-off is on the even list or off. I read most of these 15 pages but not all so ... sorry if I missed it.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Fire and Rain on 01/21/2014 23:04:01 MST Print View

Use your fire sense. No wood fires so burn off is off. Canisters would be easy.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: GGG Night Time Temps? on 01/21/2014 23:34:40 MST Print View

The automated weather station referenced above is one ridge over, at the same elevation, 0.75 miles as the crow flies, from the GGG camp sites:Henry Coe RAWS station and G.G.G. West 2014 camp sites map
For the past week, lows have been 44° F to 52° F, highs 70° F to 74° F, though the NWS forecast is mid-60s for this weekend.

You can check the weather station and forecasts at the last minute to help decide how much warm clothing to bring.

Standing around shooting the breeze at 44° F first thing in the morning can get chilly.

-- Rex

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
More water sources at GGG on 01/21/2014 23:49:07 MST Print View

Last spring Coe Park installed two large water tanks very close to the GGG camp sites. One tank is about 0.7 mile before you get to the camp sites; the other is right in the middle of the group camp sites.

Quoting from the Pine Ridge Association newsletter late Spring 2013:

New! Two Water Tanks for Visitors

Eric Griggs has just installed two 500-gallon water tanks, one at the junction of Manzanita Point Road and Poverty Flat Road and one at the junction of the Madrone Soda Springs Trail, the China Hole Trail, and the Manzanita Point Road. The PRA board agreed to fund the purchase of the tanks last year and Eric has just installed them on wooden platforms set on concrete supports at these two busy trail intersections. Be sure to tell people about them, and mention that the water is potable; Eric is working out the wrinkles to have the signage added but until that's in place visitors need to know. Having that water available will save park staff lots of trips to help dehydrated visitors, especially with the weather warming.

-- Rex

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
night temps on 01/22/2014 00:16:35 MST Print View

I only have two sleeping bag options at the moment. One is a large, fairly heavy synthetic 0*F mummy bag. The other is a synthetic 40* quilt. Based on these weather forecasts I'm thinking I might bring the quilt instead. A couple hand warmers for good measure and it should be a lot less bulky and heavy than the 0* bag.

This will be my first backpacking experience not requiring a bear vault. Hahaha. I'm still trying to wrap my head around what to do with all the extra space in my pack. ;-)

Edited by Jedi5150 on 01/22/2014 00:18:55 MST.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
no bag on 01/22/2014 08:55:00 MST Print View

Heck, I've been snow/snowless camping already this season with most nights in the teens and one sub zero night close to Carson Pass. I'll just sleep on a gc in my shorts since Henry Coe will be so warm. :)
Duane

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 09:51:27 MST Print View

That's 35 people per pit; standing in a circle shoulder-to-shoulder at 18 inches (hah!), means everyone is about 8.4 feet from the fire pit. Not much warmth.

Or, we could huddle like penguins:Penguins huddling
Coordinated Movements Prevent Jamming in an Emperor Penguin Huddle

-- Rex

Edited by Rex on 01/22/2014 09:53:55 MST.

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
GGG - Topo Map on 01/22/2014 10:11:32 MST Print View

Hey, Rex,

Where did you get that topo map?

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 10:31:14 MST Print View

I've already called shotgun! I'll be warm!

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 11:03:39 MST Print View

maybe I'll have beans for lunch or trail mix with lots of peanuts.
Duane

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 16:11:14 MST Print View

Sheesh. Nobody light a match. We'd lose half of the west coast BPL'ers.

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Hikin' Jim
(hikin_jim) - MLife

Locale: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 16:13:13 MST Print View

> I've already called shotgun! I'll be warm!
yeah, bring a shotgun. It's the only way to get close to the fire pits. :)

HJ
Adventures In Stoving
Hikin' Jim's Blog

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 19:04:45 MST Print View

They're for ambiance.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/22/2014 20:17:24 MST Print View

Any questions, comments or last minute concerns? Now would be a good time.

Rex Sanders
(Rex) - M

Locale: Central California Coast
Re: GGG - Topo Map on 01/22/2014 20:23:41 MST Print View

http://www.coeparkfund.org/content/weather.html

-- Rex

Jack H.
(Found) - F

Locale: Sacramento, CA
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/22/2014 21:44:38 MST Print View

I'm praying for rain. See you all this weekend!

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/22/2014 21:46:33 MST Print View

I'm praying for rain. See you all this weekend!

Me too. Utter downpour starting at 11am Sunday.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 22:09:11 MST Print View

"They're for ambiance."

I thought that's what I was for?

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/22/2014 22:10:03 MST Print View

Plan B

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
Gear demos at G.G.G. on 01/22/2014 22:10:32 MST Print View

FLAT CAT GEAR will arrive at G.G.G. West on Friday afternoon. This is the list of demonstrations that we intend to conduct. We will be giving out sample and some gifts during those demos.

Friday – Well I gotta eat so I will be baking my dinner
Friday Evening – Dry Baking Brownies with the Epicurean Titanium Esbit Stove as well as and alcohol stove. Free samples! Discussion about windscreen materials and heat shields. Q&A

Saturday Morning – Dry baking and maybe steam baking blueberry muffins
Saturday Noon – Dry Baking a SPAM & Cheese loaf
Saturday Evening – Different fuels: Denatured alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, Esbit. The Emergency Kitchen System, maybe bake a few cheeseburgers. Dry Baking more brownies! Q&A

Sunday Morning – Muffins and maybe some Monkey Bread. Then I have to head back to LA.

Let me know if there are any particular pieces of gear that you would like to see and I will check to see if I have enough room in my pack - Jon

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Cell phone on 01/22/2014 22:30:26 MST Print View

I don't have a cell phone and need to leave a # in case of an emergency. I PMed Ken, does anyone else have a phone that they could call my sis-in-law and leave a # that I can give her? We can meet up sometime Friday if needed to work things out. I'll give her the Park #. I forgot to send Ken an PM on Tuesday, too many things going on.
Thank you all,
Duane

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Cell phone on 01/23/2014 07:04:16 MST Print View

I messaged you Duane.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/23/2014 07:09:46 MST Print View

Allright campers, I am signing off and going to finish packing the van. I'll see you all this weekend. Thanks in advance to the forum users that will answer those questions that pop up after I leave. If you didn't get a spot this time I'm sorry. Overwhelmed with interest this time. Come out for the day on Saturday at least and enjoy the unseasonable weather and the camaraderie of fellow hikers.

Thanks for everyones input and support.

Rick Horne
(Rick778) - M

Locale: NorCal - South Bay - Campbell
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 11:25:36 MST Print View

I thought this was the "Tony Shuffle" :-)

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 19:29:57 MST Print View

Stuck in Oakland at the moment. Cruddy airport. Also the first airport I've ever flown through where I had to go back through security for a connecting flight. Hrumph.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 19:40:57 MST Print View

Where are you connecting to?

"Stuck in Oakland at the moment. Cruddy airport. Also the first airport I've ever flown through where I had to go back through security for a connecting flight. Hrumph."

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 19:42:38 MST Print View

Oops. I mean stuck in the cruddy San Diego airport on my way to Oakland! Flight delayed about an hour.

Edited by idester on 01/23/2014 19:43:55 MST.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 20:40:39 MST Print View

Easy mistake to make - you may find Oakland a bit cruddy, too.

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 20:46:53 MST Print View

is it possible to roast some weenies over the propane fire pits?

Eric Lundquist
(cobberman) - F - M

Locale: Northern Colorado
Re: propane fire pits on 01/23/2014 20:59:27 MST Print View

The propane fuel should be no different than your standard backyard bbq. I would check with Ken to see who has volunteered their firepits to see if they care about food drippings on the firepit.

Gary Dunckel
(Zia-Grill-Guy) - MLife

Locale: Boulder
Cruddy airports on 01/23/2014 21:41:32 MST Print View

Those airports are nothing like Rangoon's, or Aqaba's.

But keep in mind, Doug, that the San Diego airport probably thought of you as a bit cruddy as well. Wait until Oakland--they'll really look down on you!

Whatever, Idester, just don't eat all those brownies in one sitting. And you just have one great time with all those CA folks. Then there's the expected trip report, of course.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/24/2014 11:03:59 MST Print View

Rick,

The Tony Shuffle only happens around the fire after I have smoked some crack and have rolled around naked in the dew in the grass on a full moon.

Unfortunately, my neighbors don't seem to appreciate this when I roll around on my front lawn. :(

Fortunately, the temps look pretty mild this year....really not winter this year.

So we shouldn't be freezing like we were a couple of years back.

Looking forward to seeing everyone.

@ Everyone,

Make sure you bring a couple of liters of water....with so many of us this year, it might be a strain on the water supply being brought in.

Tony

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Re: 70 people keeping warm around two propane fire pits on 01/24/2014 11:05:54 MST Print View

Aren't there some water tanks now? Maybe someone with a large pack or a bike could do a water run if we start to get low.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Water Supply on 01/24/2014 11:25:50 MST Print View

Justin,

Ken talked about something like 50 gallons being brought in and maybe more to suppliment that.

There was a posting that there is at least one water tank in the park that has water for hikers, but not sure how far it from our campsite.

What I am doing of myself and the family is to bring 1.5-2 L per person in with us.

The site is essentially dry with a few cow ponds here and there, which I would not be keen on drinking.

My thinking is that if everyone brings just a little bit of water in for themselves, it will ensure that we don't run out of water.

Heck, maybe there will be enough left over to fill a small UL hot tub? LOL.

Anyway, just a friendly reminder for everyone to bring in some water for themselves to make sure that the 50 gallons or so of water bring hauled in will no run out.

Never hurts to be safe...plus, the hike is less than 2.5 miles and most of it on a fire road.

As a side note: I bought a Black Diamond Orbit LED Lantern that runs off of 4 AAA batteries, which puts out some decent light. Nice for the tables for dinner time...card games for the kids to play, etc. If you have a lightweight latern and have the space in your pack to carry, sure it would be nice to share the night with a little light.

Tony

Edited by Valshar on 01/24/2014 11:28:37 MST.

Jeremy B.
(requiem) - F - M

Locale: Northern California
Re: Water Supply on 01/24/2014 12:13:40 MST Print View

Good idea; it sounds like the water tanks will be available, but I'm planning to haul in a few extra liters to be safe. (I also don't recall how heavily chlorinated the water at Coe is.)

Mini-lantern, check! I may end up arriving Saturday morning rather than Friday night; it looks like today is going to run late.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Water Supply on 01/24/2014 12:19:53 MST Print View

Jeremy,

Hey, as long as you can make it out, Saturday is fine.

That is what I am doing.

My daughter has gymnastics til 8pm tonight, so no chance to get out their til Saturday around noon time.

Heck, I am just glad that they are willing to come out to see the madness that I have been involved in for the past few years.

Plus, I think there is an In and Out Burger place on the road into the park.

Lunch time!!!

Tony

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Anyone able to carpool from SF with my friend Daniel? on 01/24/2014 17:29:18 MST Print View

Ms. EJ and I are bringing in several newbie friends who are really looking forward. One of them, Daniel, is a hiker newly arrived to the Bay Area from Germany - if he doesn't have to work tomorrow (he'll know at 6PM tonight) - could anyone give him a ride to and from SF on Saturday? He's a super nice guy. If we have room in our friends' car we may be able to drive him back Sat evening.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
Caffin stoves will be at GGG on 01/24/2014 17:30:29 MST Print View

They arrived in time so everyone will be able to try them out.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
GGG ride from SF to Coe Saturday for newbie friend on 01/24/2014 22:31:37 MST Print View

Our friend Daniel, a super nice recent grad from Germany, just found out he doesn't have to work tomorrow (Saturday) and would love to come to the GGG. Is anyone able to give him a ride in to Coe tomorrow? He'd be happy to chip in for gas/parking.

Daniel really wants to meet everyone tomorrow and learn as much as possible about lightweight backpacking gear and technique.

Edited by mountainwalker on 01/24/2014 22:32:11 MST.

Danny Milks
(dannymilks) - MLife

Locale: Sierras
ride on 01/25/2014 00:08:09 MST Print View

email me: danny@backpackinglight.com We live in east bay and are driving in tomorrow (saturday) morning as well. Maybe we could meet you and drive Daniel. No guarantee, but it might work out. We have a 10 month old baby too, as long as Daniel doesn't mind.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
@Danny Daniel just emailed you; thank you very much on 01/25/2014 00:42:25 MST Print View

I'm sure he wouldn't mind at all and would sincerely appreciate it - I gave him your email and he just emailed you with his cell number. He will be up very early checking to see if you texted him - he does have a very early bus he can catch to meet us at our place at 8AM in case it doesn't work out.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Back from the GGG on 01/26/2014 11:23:46 MST Print View

I was only able to join the GGG from Friday midday to Saturday afternoon, due to work commitments. I wish I could have stayed longer; my visit was short and sweet.
Ken T. thanks so much for everything and nice to see you again my friend.
In no particular order...
Diana V. glad to spend a few hours with you and hear some of your great adventures; you are an inspiration. Jane, no one should be surprised that you hike up a mountain! Douglas Ide, you should move out west, that's all. Joshua Billings, good to see you my friend ( of 16 years now). Cameron, don't be a stranger and best of luck with your new career . Peter Vacco, you say more in one sentence than most people in months of talking...we met two years ago but it seems like much longer than that. Matt, go get your own log :). Lee Zandbergen, thanks for the meaningful conversation. Russ Zandbergen, wish our visit was longer than that. Ron Moak, way to go, those packs look great, and nice to see you again. John Abela, nice to visit again and shoot me an email about the bomber hat but give me time to catch up. Rick Niemi, always nice to see you. Good to see you again Justin Baker. Jeremy and Angela, I hope to hike with you again soon. Chris and Julie, nice to see you again, even if just for a few minutes. The Kopisch family, barely saw you but got to hug your girls again, thanks :). Kevin, sweet family you have and your son Ryan's good bye hug made my day. David Wage, wish we visited a bit longer. Marc, I forgot to pick up what you left for me...always nice to see you and Rick. EJ thanks for taking the time to give me some blogging tips!. Jim, nice to see you again. David Gardner, nice to see you again as well. Rick Horne, not much of a visit this time but nice to see you and your daughter. Ben Feldman, nice to meet you and thanks for sharing your quick wit. Duane Hall, nice to finally meet you and look forward to some hiking. Ian B. sir, thanks for driving so far to come meet us all! Barely saw Jack Haskell, Jacob Dinardi and James Winstead. Too short a visit with Jay Wilkerson. Nice to meet you Rex Sanders . Amy Lauterbach, besides the nice conversation...your brussel sprouts looked delicious, almost asked for a taste! Sharon Jue, I enjoyed our chat the other night. Richard Nisely and Mark Verber, at least we got to say hi on the trail. You were not there Debi, but your brownies were enjoyed by many of us, and by some of us many times. Tony I heard you were there and you too Jack...did not see you. The ones I missed on this list, I am sorry, my memory is not improving these days. The ones I missed at the GGG, hope to catch you next year.

I hiked out of Coe with a big smile on my face and a renewed appreciation for this community of friends and fellow outdoors people. Thank you all .

Edited by Kat_P on 01/26/2014 17:13:00 MST.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Back from the GGG on 01/26/2014 12:46:07 MST Print View

my friend Adam, and I also were only able to stay Friday night, and hike out Saturday. Ken, thanks for organizing such a great event. I'm sure that a lot of work went into it, and it is much appreciated.

I didn't get a lot of time to meet most of you folks, but the ones I did, it was a pleasure. I look forward to seeing you guys in the future, whether it is on the trail, or at future GGG's. It's fun to put a face to the names. It was great to kick back talking shop with Ian B, listen to Doug's wit, meet Denise and her pooch Zarah(sp), and see Kat's incredible photos and good sense of humor. Jane is a pleasant and inspiring lady, and it was fun meeting Ken, the "other" Hilleberg owner. Like Kat, I apologize for those I left out, but it was great meeting all of you.

I've also got to comment on how friendly and welcoming the community here (and at GGG) is. In spite of carrying in what must have seemed like a backpack full of bricks, there was absolutely no feeling that anyone was looking down their noses. As I said, everyone was welcoming and the attitude was one of open-mindedness and a desire to help. I've been on a lot of internet forums for various topics, and the members of BPL continue to impress me with their attitudes. It's a great community to be a part of.

Lastly, if I'm not there next year, blame Doug I. The reason will be that my wife killed me when I came home from the trip and announced that I had to get a Warbonnet hammock after Doug showed me his. In fact, if neither of us Dougs are there next year it will be because she also put a hit out on him. ;-)

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Names on 01/26/2014 14:40:10 MST Print View

Yes, Doug, I could not remember your name but I do remember you and Adam; nice to meet you guys. And thanks for mentioning Denise and her sweet dog. I had a lovely time talking with Denise and Sharon on Friday night!

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Missing Red Leki Poles on 01/26/2014 16:58:59 MST Print View

Marc,

Did you find a pair of red leki hiking poles leaning up against the back of your truck?

Realized that I did not have them in my car til I left the park.

Drove back and you were gone and I did not see them there.

Maybe you packed them in your truck.

Anyway, if someone found them, please PM me.

They have some black duct tape wrapped around one pole and some brown leuko tape on the other.

Great trip, I arrived late at about 2pm.

Will start working on the photos now.

Great to see everyone again and lots of kids and new faces.

Tony

Manfred Kopisch
(Orienteering) - F
Found kid's backpack and wind jacket on 01/26/2014 17:37:54 MST Print View

First of all "Thanks a lot" for another wonderful GGG event. Kat already did a great job mentioning everyone. We all had a lot of fun with everyone - Brock was clearly the hit with our girls. But who could resist an 11 month old toddler, who takes your hand and starts walking with you?

We were the last people to leave the campground and found a gray kid's backpack and blue wind jacket. Please PM me with a description (brand/model) of any of those items if you are missing them and we will figure out how to get it back to you.

Best Regards,

Manfred

Jacob D
(JacobD) - F

Locale: North Bay
Re: Back from the GGG on 01/26/2014 19:12:12 MST Print View

Had a blast. I think I enjoyed myself this year even more than the past events; it keeps getting better and it was interesting to meet some (so many!) new folks. I'm sorry but I don't remember everyone's names.

People who I hadn't seen in a while...
~ Jane B, great seeing you and I hope your shoulder thaws out soon. No worries about the cabin stuff, life goes on!

~ Doug I, you're still a little ornery but I think I spotted a chink in your armor. Thanks for the well wishes on my foot. Sounds like I won't see you at Zion... but maybe somewhere else? Take the short way if in doubt.

~ Mark V, enjoyed chatting with you about fabrics, footwear, and layering philosophy. There are only so many people who really get in depth on technical fabrics. I should have bought your tea kettle from the swap, my wife just confirmed I made a mistake :)

~ Steven P, really good catching up with you man. Maybe I can leverage Wage's condo up in Portlandia and have a little time to tramp around with you up there somewhere.


People who I just met (or sorta just met)...
~ Aaron, thanks for the map of your favorite Mt. Tam running trails. As soon as my foot feels solid I'm checking it out! Good luck running 100+ at the 4mph Challenge!

~ George, really enjoyed talking with you. Sounds like we share a lot of the same interests. Be safe in Africa and steer clear of the lions!

~ Max, it was good to meet you. Good luck with your PCT hike!



To the more familiar faces...
Ken, Kat, David W, Cameron, Marc, Rick, Rick N, Manfred, Michelle, Tony, Matt, James, Chris, Julie, Justin (thx for the Pliny, dood!!), John A... I think I got to at least say "hi" to everyone, wish I could have caught up a little more with some of you. This thing has gotten pretty big, it's getting harder to make the rounds and see everyone! I probably forgot a name or two in there. ** KEN ** thanks for organizing! You're commitment to these and the smaller gatherings does not go unnoticed!!

It's always nice to see a few of the vendors showing up too, so thanks to all of you who made the effort. I'm still pondering if transgender packs are for me and whether or not my hot dog is on the loose?

Also a personal shout out to Gen from Yama Mountain Gear who let me borrow the shelter I used way longer than he should have. It never made it on my blog (never say never!) but at least a few people got to see it at the GGG. For those who were asking me for info about it, feel free to get in touch if you still have any questions.


Cheers!
Jacob.

Edited by JacobD on 01/26/2014 19:13:38 MST.

E J
(mountainwalker) - MLife

Locale: SF Bay Area & New England
GGG Thank you; Photos; Great seeing everyone on 01/26/2014 20:22:34 MST Print View

It was great seeing everyone and meeting a lot of new people. Ms. EJ and I have a lot of folks to thank - for now I'll post pics to share with people who couldn't be there and come back to add some thoughts and captions. Thank you everyone for making our newbie friends Rebecca, Paul and Daniel feel welcome and at home - they had a blast. I know Tony will have a lot of great pics as always and we're looking forward to seeing them.

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Ryan demoing a Blizzard Bag survival bivvy:

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Pulling the Blizzard Bag over your head and cinching around your face for max warmth:

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Orange is the new olive in hiker and SAR survival wear:

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Hikin' Jim trying out Roger Caffin's 3 oz remote inverted canister stove:

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Lit and letting out its mini-roar:

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Watching the little stove go:

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Trying out the Seattle-based Cascade Mountain Quick Lock (Flick-Lock) Trekking Poles. Fantastic value in a carbon fiber flick-lock adjustable pole - widely available at Costco, at least in the SF Bay Area. Found this video demonstrating them: http://bit.ly/M2s1nA

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Manfred's Cuben Haven. Lots more Cuben shelters this year:

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Manfred's kids' Black Diamond Beta Light. Manfred says the two poles in the center works like a charm to stop kids fighting over space and was particularly helpful keeping the peace on Boy Scout trips:

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Zpacks Cuben Duplex (this tent along with Manfred's Cuben Haven are going on his planned Alaskan expedition this summer). Manfred thanks again for walking us through the shelters and also letting us try on your Zpacks Arc Blast:

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MLD Trailstar:

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Tarptent Notch:

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Tarptent Double Rainbow:

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Six Moon Designs Gatewood Cape:

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Black Diamond Mega Light:

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Doug's Hammock and Cuben Tarp, Said he sleeps like a baby. Until Doug showed us, never realized that this hammock has you on a diagonal to help flat you out so you're not sleeping in an extreme "U" shape:

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Another hammock:

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Some came on foot, others by pedal. Bikepacking in:

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Another Tarptent Notch:

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We could barely pry Roger's stove out of stovemaster Hiking Jim's hands as he was putting it through its paces:

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Ron and Brian's new lightweight pack series from Six Moon Designs in 30 and 40L (Ron also showed another full-suspension series, Fusion 50 and 60, but asked us not to post pics of those now):

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Side view with Mark modeling:

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Edited by mountainwalker on 01/26/2014 21:06:55 MST.

Roger Caffin
(rcaffin) - BPL Staff - MLife

Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Acorns? on 01/26/2014 20:33:23 MST Print View

Were those acorns stored in the bark of a tree?

Cheers

Justin Baker
(justin_baker) - F

Locale: west coast best coast
Re: Acorns? on 01/26/2014 20:36:58 MST Print View

Yes, there is a type of woodpecker native to California called an acorn woodpecker that stores acorns in holes in trees. They can be difficult to pull out without something to pry with.

Sharon J.
(squark) - F

Locale: SF Bay area
Re: Acorns? on 01/26/2014 20:38:35 MST Print View

"Were those acorns stored in the bark of a tree?"

yep.
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Acorn_Woodpecker/id

Bob Gross
(--B.G.--) - F

Locale: Silicon Valley
Re: Re: Acorns? on 01/26/2014 21:01:06 MST Print View

"Were those acorns stored in the bark of a tree?"

Further, the acorn woodpeckers leave them in the bark until they need food in mid-winter. Not only do they get the nutty goodness, but there is an extra.

After several months of being cached there in the granary tree, tiny insects will have invaded the acorns. Then the acorn woodpeckers eat the nutty goodness, but also some animal protein as well.

I've been watching and photographing that same oak for a lot of years now. Different birds.

--B.G.--

Jon Fong
(jonfong) - F

Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR
Thanks Ken for a great event! on 01/26/2014 21:03:02 MST Print View

Well, with was my very first G.G.G. and I have to say, I had a whole lot of fun! It was great to meet everyone, but I am sorry to say that I was so busy, that I probably only remember a few of your names. I’ll have to say that one of the biggest rewards for me was to see the looks on your faces when I pulled out various freshly baked goods. I had a ball and hope to be back next year. I want to especially thank Ken and his crew for pulling off an outstanding event. Best regards - Jon

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Very nice group on 01/26/2014 21:15:00 MST Print View

Nice to be able to talk to any vendor and have their attention, especially Lee from Trail Designs and Jon from Flat Cat Gear and his brownies. Many thanks to others who even came up to me and introduced themselves, even with me being a hic from the sticks and fast approaching geezerdom. Thank you Ken for the Starlyte stoves and setting this up. Sorry Diana V for all the stoves at breakfast, but at least you understood, thank you again for hauling my two gallons of water in. Hi Kat, hope you can do a trip and I'm there. HJ, good to see you in person. 200 stoves? Really? Ian from WA was a very nice gent, he packed my ice chest in for me. Many other really nice younger folks too. No kids in my neighborhood, so I enjoyed listening to the kids playing. Could not believe how warm it was there. My EE Enigma quilt worked great, but then it only got to 49F at night.
Who's that geek without the shirt? :) I was sweaty after jogging most of the way out and back in for a pot, not pot.
Duane

David W.
(Davidpcvsamoa) - MLife

Locale: East Bay, CA
Re: Back from the GGG on 01/26/2014 21:18:42 MST Print View

Ken - Thanks for putting together another incredible outing. These gatherings keeping getting better each year. You continue to do an outstanding job organizing and representing our unofficial group. Who knew an internet upstart could be held in such high regard by the State Parks Office and 100+ backpacking friends.

Jon - Very cool of you to demo your gear and gourmet trail cooking ideas. At the end of a hard day on the trail I would give the world for one of your burgers and a brownie.

Special thanks to the anonymous BPLer who donated the fire pits.

I was battling a flu/cold and so I spent too much resting resting rather than socializing. Always nice to see old friends James, Chris, Julie, Andrew, Ellen, Marc, Rick, Jacob, Mark, Kat, Jay, Kevin, Jack, Richard, Tony, Manfred, Michelle, Jane, Josh and many others. Steven and Doug thanks for traveling so far to hang out. I know I am forgetting many others who deserve thank yous and shout outs.

Rex - I have enjoyed your articles. It was nice to speak to you in person.

Ian - So glad you made it down. I have enjoyed your posts and sense of humor. Nice to put a face with the goat avatar.

Aaron - Thanks for the company and conversation walking in.

Marc/Rick - Thanks for the water.


I hope to hike with as many GGGers as possible in 2014. See you on the trail.

David W.

Edited by Davidpcvsamoa on 01/26/2014 21:56:12 MST.

Max Katzmartsic
(yetti6969)

Locale: Northern California
Awesome! on 01/26/2014 22:37:16 MST Print View

Thanks to Ken for making this happen and thanks to everyone else for making this an awesome weekend! I met a lot of great people and everyone was super nice. Thanks for all the encouragement and advice for my PCT hike this year. Hope to see everyone again next time!

Edited by yetti6969 on 01/26/2014 22:37:54 MST.

Jacob D
(JacobD) - F

Locale: North Bay
Re: GGG6 on 01/26/2014 23:08:21 MST Print View

I added my photos and additional write up here:
http://hikeitlikeit.com/2014/january-fun-at-the-ggg/

:) later!

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: Names on 01/26/2014 23:56:55 MST Print View

Kat, it was nice meeting you as well. Don't feel bad about names at all. There were a lot of people there and way too many names to remember. I figure this was just year one for me, hopefully I'll meet more and more people each year (in other words Ken, keep up the good work. hahaha).

Marc Eldridge
(meld) - MLife

Locale: The here and now.
Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 01/27/2014 08:05:15 MST Print View

Great job Ken for putting this on. Really too many people to meet and talk to but that's what makes if fun. Glad to see all the old faces and meet some new ones this year. Will look forward to next year and to coming years.

Edited by meld on 01/28/2014 07:54:21 MST.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: "6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014" on 01/27/2014 09:26:44 MST Print View

I think the poles may be Tony Wong's, he posted that he left a pair.

Erik G
(fox212) - F

Locale: THE Bay Area :)
Had a Blast on 01/27/2014 09:29:04 MST Print View

Another big thanks to Ken and everyone else who helped organize this shindig! I had an awesome time meeting people and oogling all the cool gear.

Some highlights for me:

-Meeting lots of other BPL members - best part of the whole thing
-Hot tent with Ti wood stove - way cool
-SMD new and updated shelters
-Caffin stove - Bought one in the GGG shipment. Love it. Beautiful and thoughtful design, Roger.

Can't wait until the next one!

Manfred Kopisch
(Orienteering) - F
Geocaching (with kids) on 01/27/2014 10:23:03 MST Print View

Several kids approached me about geocaching during the weekend. They were excited when our family finally arrived and wanted to go geocaching right away.
Sorry, that I didn't anticipate the demand for repeated geocaching. We can do it again at the next meeting. I just need the parents to let me know how many kids they will bring, so I can stuff the geocaches accordingly and we don't disappoint any kids.

Some parents also asked me about geoaching, GPS receivers etc. Here is an article I wrote after last year's GGG. Have a look and feel free to ask more questions.

Some adults had questions too -- it was fun to watch Denise find her first geocache. Seeing her dog Zara, I would gladly exchange GPS classes for dog training classes for the two dogs my kids have.

Best Regards,

Manfred

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Please Repost your photos and comments in the Photo Gallery on 01/27/2014 11:54:30 MST Print View

Wow....you guys and gals are fast with posting your photos and comments.

Making me look like the lazy bum that I am!

Anyway, I just created a thread in the photo gallery for the 2014 GGG.

I arrived very late this year....2pm, so if you have any photos to document what happened and have comments, please post them there.

If you have already posted here, if you could please just copy and paste over to the thread in the photo gallery, that would be much appreciated.

Also, as before, I will be posting up photos with numbers by them.

If you are in the photo or see your shelter/gear, please PM me information for the caption to appear under the photo....wacky comments appreciate and encouraged as I often use what you give me word for word....as a quote.


Side note: YES, those are my Hiking Poles that I left behind in the parking lot! Drove back to find them, but figured that Marc would have scooped them up. He PMed me about them. Thanks everyone...had those poles for a very long time- memories. :)

Appreciate your patience...I have about 230 photos that I resized last night.

When I get home tonight, I can start posting.

Tony

Ben Feldman
(fenbeldman) - MLife

Locale: Bay Area
thanks for a great weekend! on 01/27/2014 16:38:54 MST Print View

great meeting everyone! please be in touch re: Bay Area adventures. -Ben

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: thanks for a great weekend! on 01/27/2014 16:41:38 MST Print View

Lovely weekend with wonderful people. I'll post a more thorough TR later but seems I left my Eddie Bauer daypack on the picnic table. Please PM me if you grabbed it as I'm trying to remember what I left in it.

Edit: Thanks for the PM.

Edit part deuce: I originally thought that the $5 per brownie Doug was charging was a little spendy but after tasting them, found that they were well worth the money. Thanks DK for sending them.

Edited by IDBLOOM on 01/27/2014 16:55:20 MST.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: thanks for a great weekend! on 01/27/2014 17:07:56 MST Print View

But...but...he PROMISED he wouldn't charge for them. Oh, that choirboy innocence...and now it's too late to commit douglascide, since we took him back to his hotel last night and he flew back home at oh-dark-thirty this morning. #$*&@(&!!! But on the plus side, at least it sounds like he didn't eat all of them before they got to Coe.

Doug? Yoo hoo, Doug? I demand 50% of the take!

All kidding aside, I'm glad you enjoyed, them, Ian - sorry I didn't get to meet you and all the new folks, but maybe next year...

Edited by dkramalc on 01/27/2014 17:14:56 MST.

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: thanks for a great weekend! on 01/27/2014 17:14:36 MST Print View

So glad I drove the 375 miles each way.
Now I get to go to a 2nd event right around the corner in socal.

Who's the lucky one?

Had a blast. Loved the new SMD packs.
I'm going to order a 40 Flight. It fits better than any pack I have ever tried on.
The dual pull from the underside in back is such an awesome way to adjust a pack.

For moving quickly I always find that when you get the hip-bilt adjusted perfect, pulling on the shoulder straps is just a way of shortening the torso and thus no longer having a good fit.

The comfort of the double pull makes flight 40's double pul the single best design on a pack ever (it's the only one of the new pack designs to have it).

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Back from the GGG on 01/27/2014 19:57:47 MST Print View

Always a great time at the GGG visiting my Cali friends. You're right Kat, I need to move west! Soon, soon. Thanks for all those who put up with me, a special shout out to my good friend Ken, as always, for all the hard work you do in putting this thing together every year and always making me feel very welcome, and to my new friends Debbie and Larry for letting me crash at your place and for letting me lick the brownie batter bowls! and the wonderful dinner my last night in town, and to Sharon for the ride, I owe you a tank of gas!

Was great spending time with those I've come to appreciate and even call friends - Kat, David W., Steven Paris, Josh (love the bike!), EJ, Marc, Matthew, the one and only Peter V., Jane (always an inspiration) and others, and for the new friends I made - Diana V., Sharon, Ian (thanks for the bottle! Used it on the way home) and more. Jay W, seems I missed you, would have liked to say hello and show you the projector!

And thanks to the vendors who took the time to bring their wares and let us see what's out there. Highly appreciated.

And to whoever donated the fire pits - I would have been more impressed if they'd not been so small. Try and not be so cheap next time....

Looking forward to the next one!

Edited because, well, I had to....

Edited by idester on 01/27/2014 22:11:21 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Back from the GGG on 01/27/2014 21:10:13 MST Print View

A special shout out, but not listed as friend, nice. ;-p

I still have that photo......


Was great to spend more time with you Doug. You're always welcome.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Back from the GGG on 01/27/2014 21:33:01 MST Print View

"A special shout out, but not listed as friend, nice. ;-p"

Oh, you're much more than a friend, big boy.....

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Re: Back from the GGG on 01/27/2014 22:19:20 MST Print View

I'm back in Portland now, but certainly could have used a little more time at Henry Coe, a fantastic state park. Thanks to all for the great conversation and comaraderie. It's nice that 80+ (100?) people, many of whom have never met face-to-face, can gather, share ideas and stories and gear, and just get along.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Back from the GGG on 01/27/2014 22:20:33 MST Print View

Love you too Hun.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/27/2014 22:21:45 MST Print View

What did I just get in the middle of?

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/27/2014 22:25:44 MST Print View

"What did I just get in the middle of?"

Who are you kidding, that's where you're always trying to be.....

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/27/2014 22:49:20 MST Print View

Aw, now I'm blushing.

Off-topic, when I got home, my wife was telling me about how my daughters missed me while I was gone (a whole 36 hours). She asked what they missed and they said things about hearing me in the kitchen or making them breakfast. Stuff like that. Then my 8-year-old said, "I miss how I can hear him always typing on the computer and saying "Blah blah blah, this backpack has a lot of pockets blah blah blah."

No respect.

d k
(dkramalc) - MLife
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/27/2014 23:43:04 MST Print View

"What did I just get in the middle of?"

I believe the term is "lucky Pierre"...

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/27/2014 23:54:02 MST Print View

Attention.

Do not Google "Lucky Pierre."

That is all.

Matthew Black
(mtblack)
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/28/2014 01:09:37 MST Print View

Mr. Paris, you have just confirmed that you have the best of all that life offers.

Doug Smith
(Jedi5150) - F - M

Locale: Central CA
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 01/28/2014 22:29:49 MST Print View

"... Then my 8-year-old said, "I miss how I can hear him always typing on the computer and saying "Blah blah blah, this backpack has a lot of pockets blah blah blah."


Steven, there must be something in the air that causes daughters to be sarcastic. When my oldest daughter was turning 12, we asked her if she wanted a .22 rifle for her birthday. She said, "Oh, that would be awesome! I'll spray paint it camouflaged, and then sell it, then use that money to buy a different one...then I'll spray paint the new one, and then sell it..." I can't be certain but I think she might have been mocking me.

Hahahaha

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 02/02/2014 01:14:02 MST Print View

For all of you that saw the little camera holder that I had setup at the GGG, they are now available for purchase. Thank you for all of the wonderful feedback I got and I hope they prove to be super useful for those of you that need a little accessory like this!

Diana Vann
(DianaV) - MLife

Locale: Wandering
Re: Thanks Ken for a great event! on 02/02/2014 10:39:12 MST Print View

I want to say a big thanks to Ken for putting the GGG together once again. Ken, it's clear that you put a lot of time an effort into making it happen.

It was great to see friends from the past and to make some new ones. As had already been said, Thanks Ken for a great event!

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 02/02/2014 15:27:36 MST Print View

Thanks to all who attended. Another great weekend with friends old an new. Have some changes planned for the next one.
I've been enjoying the posted photos and comments in the Photo Gallery thread as well.

And to those companies that don't respond to their Facebook messages or e mail, tisk, tisk.

Edited by kthompson on 02/02/2014 19:50:35 MST.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 02/02/2014 19:43:49 MST Print View

Ken,

Slow going on the photos on my end.

It really is a bit of work for me to try to research the gear in the shelters and to put the hyperlinks in.

I like the results, but hate the process of doing it.

On the plus side of things, I just ordered a Snow Leopard Cooking System from Jon at Flat Cat Gear. :)

GGG is not good for my gear fetish....lol.

Tony

Edited by Valshar on 02/02/2014 20:25:07 MST.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Re: 6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 02/02/2014 20:18:15 MST Print View

Was great to see you Tony, and to meet the family. Thanks again for everything. I know I'm not the only one who enjoys your photo essays. We all appreciate the effort it takes.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
6th Annual G.G.G. Photo Essay Complete on 02/12/2014 01:13:23 MST Print View

2014 Gathering of Gear Geeks: GGG

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/15/2014 10:59:18 MST Print View

To everyone who attended the GGG,

I need your help because I showed up late at this year's GGG and missed out on some critical photos.

Dan, from Zelph Stoves, donated over $300 of his stoves to be given away FREE at this year's GGG.

The box originally contained 21 "Venom Super Stoves", 4 "Fancee Feest" stoves, 6 "Modified StarLyte burners" with cap, 6 "original StarLyte burners" with cap, 12 "carbon felt simmer discs" that could be used with the StarLyte burners, the 12-10 stove and Flatcatgear's titanium alcohol stove.

I don't have ANY photos of Dan's Stoves or showing any of the lucky people who was lucky enough to receive one of his stoves.

To anyone who was fortunate enough to get one of Dan's stoves, could you please email me a photo of yourself holding his stove or any pictures you have from the GGG with Dan's stove? (Heck, I don't mind if you take a picture today at your house holding his stove).

Dan made a HUGE and Generous donation to the GGG and the least that I/we can do is to make sure that the photo essay shows his stoves and his generosity.

You can email me any pictures you have to friskyrn @ yahoo.com

$300 of donated gear is a lot for a cottage manufacture.

Thanks for your help...just trying to do right by Dan for all of his efforts.

Tony

Edited by Valshar on 02/15/2014 11:01:26 MST.

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/15/2014 12:43:08 MST Print View

Tony,

Thanks for this. I don't have any pictures, unfortunately, but for those at the GGG, these stove kits were in a bin inside the "welcome tent" near the name tags.

I think if the fire ban hadn't been in place, we would have seen a lot of Starlyte kits at the GGG! I didn't bring mine for that reason.

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/19/2014 16:19:47 MST Print View

>>>I think if the fire ban hadn't been in place, we would have seen a lot of Starlyte kits at the GGG! I didn't bring mine for that reason.>>>

Steven, Flatcatgear and Trail Designs were using alcohol....should have brought your alchy stoves or fired up one of the freebee give aways. Ken said he was bringing the alcohol. (fuel);-)

How did you heat your water/meal?

John Abela
(JohnAbela) - MLife

Locale: www.hikelighter.com
Re: Re: Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/19/2014 16:32:31 MST Print View

Dan Yeruski: How did you heat your water/meal?


Modified Jetboil is all I used.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/19/2014 18:57:54 MST Print View

Flatcatgear and Trail Designs were using alcohol...

Yeah, well. Really shouldn't have been. Had a fire extinguisher right there though.

Got many thanks for the Venoms Dan. The Starlytes were a hit as well.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/19/2014 20:41:42 MST Print View

I can't get photos until the weekend. I got both Starlyte models and Ken gave me a carbon felt simmer ring. Action shot at home? :)
Duane

Steven Paris
(saparisor) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
6th Annual G.G.G. 1/24-26 2014 on 02/19/2014 23:04:51 MST Print View

Dan,

I brought a Monatauk Gnat stove + Snowpeak bowl on the plane (but no windscreen), bought a canister at a sporting goods store in Morgan Hill (off-brand, but seemed fine) and only boiled water on Saturday night (no-cook food on Friday night). I had enough no-cook food, though, if I didn't want to boil water.

My go-to stove is still the Starlyte and it was great to see your stoves and Jon's Flat Cat stoves, too.

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/20/2014 08:41:42 MST Print View

Duane,

If you can take a shot of yourself holding Dan's stove and email it to me, that would be great.

I updated the GGG Photo Essay with pictures of Dan's stoves.

What is missing is a picture of someone happily smiling and holding his stove.

Actions shots welcome too...I can simply add them to the existing set of photos in the report.

My email address is friskyrn@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Tony

Dan Yeruski
(zelph) - MLife

Locale: www.bplite.com
Re: Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/20/2014 14:08:18 MST Print View

Gold Gear wrote:

Sign me up. GOLD Gear will be there again this year. Looking forward to it and the wood and alcohol stove "burn offs".

Did we decide that there would be two wood categories? Natural aspiration and mechanically-aided?

There has been discussion of the alcohol stove burn off, but no firm rules yet, I think. May I suggest two categories: "Limited" and "Unlimited"? "Limited" would be fastest to boil 2 cups of water using 30 ml of fuel or less (given the cold temps and windy conditions last year, this seems like a fair challenge). "Unlimited" would just be fastest to boil, using any amount of alcohol the stove can use.

Any thought of having an Esbit burn off too?

I'm assembling my competition rigs, getting ready.

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That would have been great to have some competition of some kind to get a little excitement going with alchy stoves. Good way to have been able to gives stoves away for the winners.

I'll have more to give away next year :-)........bring the fire extinguishers :-)))))))

It was fun following this thread as it proceeded through it's course and to see the outcome, awesome!!! Ken and John did a super job!!!!

Tony did a fantastic job at doing the Photo Essay....thank you Tony!!!! :-)

Ian B.
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: Re: Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/20/2014 15:36:45 MST Print View

Dan,

I didn't receive one of your stoves this year. Ken said something about "Ian you're not in the circle of trust / your loincloth is inappropriate for this gathering / blah blah blah" or something along those lines.

Many of us had a chance to see some of your gear and really appreciate that you took the time to send them to GGG. I previously purchased one of your starlyte stoves with my Caldera Cone and look forward to using it in the near future.

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Need Help: Photos of Dan's Zelph Stoves at the GGG!!! on 02/20/2014 19:22:01 MST Print View

Getting the call that there would be a fire ban a week before the GGG put the kibosh on a couple of things. Who would have expected on in January?

Jane Baack
(JaneB.) - MLife
Ken T. turns down Federal job offer on 02/22/2014 11:50:55 MST Print View

News flash: The Bureau of Land Management announced they are creating a full-time position dedicated to the annual Burning Man event. Ken Thompson, current organizer of the very successful GGG annual event in California, was offered the position but after consideration of this unique job opportunity, while he was setting up his new shelter, Thompson turned it down.

"No, no, I'm NOT a burning man! You've got the wrong guy. When Coe Park Rangers say,
'You can't burn' then I don't burn!"

BLM officials were disappointed Thompson turned down their offer but said they will next look to establish a full-time position for GGG-7 and beyond as this event has grown so large and successful that someone with Thompson's skills is needed to coordinate and maintain safety among the counterculture "UL gear geeks" who attend the annual event.

Thompson said he will consider this second job offer after he decides whether he will keep his new shelter. "I've got my priorities!"