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Jim Klazek
(Klazek) - M
Moment DW solid liner on 08/22/2013 17:07:58 MDT Print View

This option is now available and up on the Tarptent site.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
YIPPEE! on 08/22/2013 18:01:09 MDT Print View

But after spending $9,651 for a new HVAC unit for my home yesterday I'll wait 'til November to order mine.

As I mentioned in the Winter Hiking page I think the Moment DW will make a very good winter solo tent with the X-ing pole for snowload and help with high winds.
Mine will also get a heavier duty main pole for winter.

Now to sell my SW Moment and all its extras. (Already got a buyer.)

Edited by Danepacker on 08/22/2013 23:34:15 MDT.

SPIRIDON Papapetroy
(spotlight) - F
Solid interior vs liner. on 09/26/2013 15:14:30 MDT Print View

I am a bit confused about this liner. Is it the same as this one http://www.tarptent.com/momentliner.html that was already available? In the second photo of the moment dw product page here http://www.tarptent.com/momentdw.htmlSolid
it seems that the solid interior replaces the mesh inner.

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Solid interior vs liner. on 09/26/2013 15:16:35 MDT Print View

Nm

Edited by FamilyGuy on 02/02/2014 08:18:19 MST.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Moment DW solid liner on 09/26/2013 15:32:56 MDT Print View

The thread heading caused that confusion.
The original Moment (hybrid single wall with a mesh door/floor/side mesh attached) had an optional liner that could be added to cover the upper part of the shelter.
The new DW (Double Wall ) version has the option of having the inner part (the bit Americans call tent) either in mesh or white fabric (solid) as seen above.

So this is the Moment DW fly with the mesh inner:
Moment DW mesh inner

Same fly with the solid inner:
Moment DW solid inner

Forget about the liner, that was for the original Moment

Edited by Franco on 09/26/2013 16:24:51 MDT.

SPIRIDON Papapetroy
(spotlight) - F
solid vs liner on 09/26/2013 16:06:15 MDT Print View

I bought my Moment DW in May, so it must be the first version of the DW. Do you think it easy to remove the mesh inner and replace it with the new solid interior?

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Moment DW solid liner on 09/26/2013 16:18:37 MDT Print View

Yes, it can be un-clipped in a minute..
That is one of the nice features of the Moment DW (same for the other TT double wall shelters)
You can set it up and take it down as one unit or fly only with the inner removed.
To remove the inner just twist the mitten hook out of the ring, no need to press that tongue.

Alex Wallace
(FeetFirst) - F

Locale: Northern California
weight on 09/26/2013 17:17:31 MDT Print View

Franco, Do you know how much the solid inner weighs? What about the mesh version for comparison?

I apologize for the thread drift, but I noticed that Tarptent recently shortened the pole section length (18" vs. 20") for the Moment DW's arch pole; are there any corresponding changes to the shelter to accommodate this new shorter section length pole? Will it work with Moment DWs that originally came with a 20" section arch pole? Thanks.

Edited by FeetFirst on 09/26/2013 17:18:16 MDT.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Moment DW solid liner on 09/26/2013 17:42:00 MDT Print View

Alex,
the new 18" pole has an extra section, apart from that it is compatible with the current and previous versions of the fly.
The solid inner is about 2oz (from memory) heavier than the mesh.
So around 11oz for the mesh and 13 oz for the solid one.

Alex Wallace
(FeetFirst) - F

Locale: Northern California
Re: Moment DW solid liner on 09/27/2013 12:48:26 MDT Print View

Thanks, Franco.

Now I wonder if I should grab the carbon version...

SPIRIDON Papapetroy
(spotlight) - F
Attaching the solid inner. on 10/10/2013 00:46:13 MDT Print View

Do i have to first setup the tent in order to replace the mesh with the inner?

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Moment DW solid liner on 10/10/2013 02:30:18 MDT Print View

This is the Moment fly without any inner:
Moment fly
To that you can have attached (or add any time you like) EITHER the mesh (first photo in my post above) OR the solid/white fabric inner (second photo in my post above)
Usualy you would leave the inner attached during set up or take down but it takes only a minute to separate/attach if you like to do so.
This is the mesh inner (tent in the USA) by itself :
Moment mesh inner

Note that the term "liner" used by the OP should be inner or tent.
This thread is about the Moment DW (Double Wall) , not the original Moment

Edited by Franco on 10/10/2013 03:47:03 MDT.

SPIRIDON Papapetroy
(spotlight) - F
Choosing between the 2. on 05/22/2014 16:21:43 MDT Print View

In a place with too much condensation, would you suggest using the mesh liner or the solid interior?

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: Melbourne
Moment DW solid liner on 05/23/2014 00:02:31 MDT Print View

This is how I see it.
If with high humidity you also have some air flow (mild wind) then the mesh inner may help in keeping your stuff inside it dry or say reduce dampness.

If on the other hand you also get strong winds or very still air, the solid (fabric) inner will give more protection and ,because the fabric breaths well but is also water repellent , it will let your perspiration pass through but protect you from possible drips from the underside of the fly.