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alex hansen
(holden425)
zpacks "multipack" on 08/19/2013 19:01:16 MDT Print View

Has anyone used the multipack? I like to carry the osprey grab bag on my atmos 65 but am thinking of getting an arc blast.
Specific questions are:
Is it adjustable vertically so i can put it at different heights on my chest?
How hot does it make you? Something i like about the grab bag is i can loosen it and it doesnt sit super close to my body.
Does it flop forward and back when in chest carry position?

Chris W
(simplespirit) - MLife

Locale: WNC
Re: zpacks "multipack" on 08/19/2013 19:08:56 MDT Print View

I have one and did a review on here. It doesn't permanently attach, so where you place it on the shoulder straps depends more on you and what your straps offer than anything. I've never noticed any temp issues and the attachments are certainly adjustable, that's how it can work as a front-pack, lid, fanny pack, shoulder pack, etc. I've even used it as a tail-bag on a Harley Sportster a few times. It won't flip back/forth if you attach all four corners to your straps.

Richard May
(richardmay)

Locale: Costa Rica
Re: zpacks "multipack" on 08/19/2013 19:11:30 MDT Print View

Hi Alex, it is very adjustable. Height and tightness very easily. It flops when loose but you can tweak the tightness and height to what's comfortable.

Kevin Schneringer
(Slammer) - MLife

Locale: Oklahoma Flat Lands
Zpacks Multipack on 08/19/2013 19:21:59 MDT Print View

Chris and Richard are exactly correct!
Nice adjustable and the Flop is very controllable.
Nothing more I could add to there description.

Nico .
(NickB) - MLife

Locale: Los Padres National Forest
Zpacks Multipack on 08/19/2013 19:22:39 MDT Print View

I'll just comment on the heat/breathability concern since others have pretty well answered the other questions.

I have both the Osprey Grabbag and the Zpacks Multipack. I choose which one to use based on how much camera equipment I'm carrying. I find the grab bag more comfy and less hot given its smaller size, mesh backing and the fact that it doesn't sit across the middle of my chest as much as it sits off to one side or the other just under my ribcage.

The Zpacks bag is quite a bit larger and made from non-breathable cuben. And it sits dead center across my chest. I DO find that it makes me run hotter and is therefore not as comfy. But, as I often need the increased capacity for easy to access camera gear and I prefer it's more secure method of attaching to my pack straps, I often accept the increased sweatiness and go with the Multipack.

alex hansen
(holden425)
thanks on 08/19/2013 19:42:59 MDT Print View

Thanks everyone for the advice. I think i will Get one if i end up getting a zpacks bag

michael levi
(M.L) - F

Locale: W-Never Eat Soggy (W)affles
re on 08/19/2013 20:01:18 MDT Print View

I would also consider just using shoulder pouches, they stay put and are less of a hassle, and are not in the way. IMO.

alex hansen
(holden425)
carry on 08/19/2013 20:54:11 MDT Print View

most importantly i like a good spot to get to my snacks. i usually carry dried apples or gorp in my grab bag so i can snack frequently, and also like to carry my sawyer squeeze there. if i had more room, id probably carry more in front, but alas the grab bag is too small.

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
zpacks "multipack" on 08/20/2013 07:36:10 MDT Print View

Thanks for the heads-up on the Multipack.

I had never heard of it until now and it is just what I was looking for and for many reasons.

I like the fact that it can double as a dayhike pack.
I often bring people along on dayhikes that don't have packs and so I end up carrying their water, rain-gear and snacks. Now I can give them this for their stuff during the hike:-)

Daryl Daryl
(lyrad1) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest, USA, Earth
Re: zpacks "multipack" on 08/20/2013 08:57:47 MDT Print View

Alex,

I've used a myog version for well over 10 years and really like it. The Z packs version is so much like mine that I think my experience would apply to it also.

It does add some warmth but otherwise none of your concerns are a problem...for me.

When hiking on good trails I often loosen my shoulder straps and let the front bag keep things balanced and in place. So one could argue that the front bag warmth is offset somewhat by the loosened shoulder straps.

I typically carry about 5 pounds of stuff (including 2 lbs of water) in the front bag and that is enough to offset the backwards pull of my backpack.

People often ask if I can see my feet. Well it just isn't an issue. Maybe I've adjusted? I think it is similar to having large breasts or a pot belly.

Edited by lyrad1 on 08/20/2013 09:32:10 MDT.

alex hansen
(holden425)
Re: Re: zpacks "multipack" on 08/20/2013 09:22:26 MDT Print View

"similar to having large breasts or a pot belly."

Love this analogy!

Richard May
(richardmay)

Locale: Costa Rica
multipack as daypack on 08/20/2013 09:55:23 MDT Print View

Hey Stephen, I too bought the multipack to double as a daypack. However, if you are carrying a windbreaker, poncho, light puffy, snacks, water and a camera it's too small. I think size-wise it's probably closer to a large hip-pack.

I just ordered a slim drybag that I should be able to attach to the bottom with two of the straps (it comes with 4). I'm thinking of putting layers in there to free the multipack.

Ian Destroyer of Forums
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Multipack for Tenkara on 08/20/2013 10:38:24 MDT Print View

I'm sending them an email later this morning to see how much it would cost to have the multipack set up this way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwU3ZIC04po

Besides using it for fishing, I figure the external pouch would be great for energy gels and such.

Kevin Schneringer
(Slammer) - MLife

Locale: Oklahoma Flat Lands
Multipack on 08/20/2013 11:05:15 MDT Print View

When I ordered mine I asked Joe to add an additional net pocket running the full front.
It is great for draining Squeeze filter while walking keeping extra snack also place Inreach Se in there.

It was an extra $10 bucks I think? but well worth that extra little space.

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
zpacks "multipack on 08/20/2013 12:05:46 MDT Print View

@Richard,

Yes, I understand it won't act as a full on daypack. Most people have bigger daypacks if they are doing longer hikes.

I'm thinking of the less experienced hiker that will be doing 3 to 5 mile and the only thing they carry are water, snacks and rain shell.

If they need to carry more, I can put the extra stuff in my pack. I would be carrying the emergency and other stuff with me.

But my main use for the the Multipack is to extend capacity and the convenience of a front pack.

Stephen Komae
(skomae) - MLife

Locale: northeastern US
Re: Multipack on 08/20/2013 14:18:00 MDT Print View

"When I ordered mine I asked Joe to add an additional net pocket running the full front.
It is great for draining Squeeze filter while walking keeping extra snack also place Inreach Se in there.

It was an extra $10 bucks I think? but well worth that extra little space."


Do you have pictures of this modification?

I have the Multipack and I use it as a lid for my lidless pack. It does wonders to help keep organized and seems to me to be very durable.

Edited by skomae on 08/20/2013 14:18:36 MDT.

Kevin Schneringer
(Slammer) - MLife

Locale: Oklahoma Flat Lands
Multipack on 08/20/2013 14:52:54 MDT Print View

Picture posted- Nice little add-on I think.Net add-on Zpacks Multipack

Edited by Slammer on 08/20/2013 19:06:50 MDT.

Ito Jakuchu
(jakuchu) - MLife

Locale: Japan
great product, not for my usage on 08/20/2013 20:12:33 MDT Print View

I have a ZPacks Multipack. It's very well made I think, stronger, less fragile than I expected. It's not a whole front pack system like an Aarn bodypack but capacity is really very generous for a pouch. For me it is best used for the things/tools that you need to get to more often on your trek like compass, windshirt, map, energy bars, dried fruit, camera, etc. And I thought I would love that set-up.

Thing is, I tried it and for the way I trek that system doesn't work very well. No fault of the ZPack Multipack, I think it's more inherent to the set-up in combination with my usage. I do mostly faster treks, with quite a lot of elevation changes, scrambling etc. If I loosen all the straps, breathing and temperature are ok but with the added weight in there the pack bounces too much for my comfort.
When I tighten the straps more to mitigate bounce, it makes me run hotter than normal and I sweat more. Since I need to ventilate well because of the distances/speed I like to do it doesn't work that well. I'm sure if I would go on more general speed hikes with other people that I would use it again and love it.. Again, the quality is all you could wish for.

So to answer the original question, it either makes me run hot, or it bounces (not both at the same time). I'm looking at adding snacks or some extras I want to get to on a side grab pocket and extra shoulder strap pockets if possible (also done by ZPacks). Not as generous space wise, but better for my usage.

Edited by jakuchu on 08/28/2013 00:57:21 MDT.

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
great product, not for my usage on 08/21/2013 03:42:07 MDT Print View

Good points Ito. I can see how it wouldn't be so great when fast hiking.

How about as an additional lid to your backpack, or you may already have a pack with a lid compartment?

I do not and I hate having to loosen the side straps and dig though my pack every time I need my windshirt, camera, rain-shell, gloves, compass, snacks,...

Much easier to just unzip the lid top, or of course reach in the front pack for those that don't trail run.

Ito Jakuchu
(jakuchu) - MLife

Locale: Japan
Re: great product, not for my usage on 08/21/2013 04:04:42 MDT Print View

Steven,
My pack has a lid already. I could lash the multipack on there but would only do that if really strapped for space. Don't think I would go for the added bounce behind my head if not necessary as I would still need to put the pack off to get to my things. Definitely an option though.
For me the nice thing about the multipack would be all about having access to things you use all the time, or want quick access to, on the go. I definitely understand what you are saying about not wanting to open up your pack all the time for those frequent use things. Would still love that but I will try it through extra pouches I think, as I also didn't really like having to clip and unclip the multipack when putting my pack on/off. If you have no pack lid, and you think you might use the multipack on your front too than that is great flexible dual use, and it is built for that.

Again though, it's probably fine for many peoples usage situation.
If you have a camera case that is a bit bigger like for an SLR or something and you strap it to the front with some cordage, it would not be the same but you might get a better idea of what the multipack would be like when used on your chest/belly. Perhaps worth to try to see if you like the system. If it has no problems for you I can't recommend the multipack highly enough.

Edited by jakuchu on 08/21/2013 04:46:39 MDT.