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Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 09:08:34 MDT Print View

*****Going to stick using my SS1, thanks all for recommendations****


Folks,

I am looking in to the idea of possibly getting a cuben shelter in the 20oz range (or lighter) I already have a 2 lb fully enclsoed tent.

A fully enlosed bug space (not a bivy) is a must.

It will primrily be for 3 Season use below treeline.

Cheers,

Stephen

Edited by stephenm on 08/19/2013 07:36:56 MDT.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - M

Locale: Cascadia
Tent on 08/16/2013 13:20:08 MDT Print View

Shelters are tough to choose. There's so many variables for a good shelter that there's almost always going to be aspects you like and dislike. I was going to write a darn long post about shelters attributes but I can digress for days on that subject. In short, you want something simple, light and robust.

Since we're looking at ~20oz, tent poles are out. With the realm of trekking pole supported shelters you got designs that use 1 or 2 poles. The dual pole designs tend to have more headroom (ie. TarpTent Notch), while the single pole designs are simpler and quicker to pitch. For a solo hiker I recommend a single pole shelter - in essence a mid - if you're looking for a shelter that can be used in a huge range of conditions.

To cut to the point, a cuben MLD DuoMid (or other pyramid, ie. Locus Gear, Bear Paw) is excellent. Very quick to pitch (vs. a Hexamid or TT Notch/SS1), offers robust protection and versatility. I use a solo inner which sets up in the back half during bug season, and I switch to the groundsheet in the colder half of the year. It's a wonderfully low maintenance, light and easy setup.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Tent on 08/16/2013 13:48:55 MDT Print View

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply.

I already have an Ss1 which I use with trekking poles and thats a palace, I had thought about the Cuben Doumid with Solo Net option but that's 560$ which could lead to a divorce unless I sold the ss1 to help pay for it.

I will check out the Locus and Bear Paw options.

Cheers,

Stephen

Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 13:55:12 MDT Print View

Lightheart Solo or Solong (if you're tall).. though Judy is doing the Colorado trail so the Cuben stuff might not be in stock.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Re: Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 15:00:22 MDT Print View

Hi Jake,

I had look and the Cuben kit is out of stock, oh well.

Jeff M.
(Catalyst) - M

Locale: Costa Mesa, CA
Ill be following with interest on 08/16/2013 15:27:45 MDT Print View

I'm kind of in the same boat. I had the cuben duomid and liked it, but decided I wanted a bugnet inner with it and the price was getting too high. I go back and forth on the hexamid, but still haven't tried it out. I'd prefer a removable inner. Good luck in your search.

Edited by Catalyst on 08/16/2013 15:30:23 MDT.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Ill be following with interest on 08/16/2013 15:32:30 MDT Print View

Cheers Jeff,

I much prefer a removable inner myself.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 15:33:31 MDT Print View

Someone was selling a cuben LH Solo with awning, opening on both sides, sil floor, for $325 plus paypal fees (so $335.02 with fees).

Oh yeah, me. :-)

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 15:42:30 MDT Print View

I may be interested Doug, I will need to check my change jar :-)

Whats the weight all up?

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Value for money on 08/16/2013 15:46:48 MDT Print View

I was just looking at the cost of the Cuben Duomid with the Net inner with cuben floor, it costs more than what my SS1, Trailstar and Golite sl3 cost me combined (the sl3 and Trailstar where bought used)

F*** me.

Doug I.
(idester) - MLife

Locale: MidAtlantic
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 15:57:59 MDT Print View

Shelter, attached guylines, plastic spacer piece (necessary to set up shelter, though Judy sells a CF one) and stuff sack: 21 oz on my cheapo kitchen scale.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oh no, not another damn what tent thread on 08/16/2013 16:00:03 MDT Print View

Spot on Doug,

I will definitely consider it.

Mark Fowler
(KramRelwof) - MLife

Locale: Namadgi
Net inner for Hexamid on 08/16/2013 17:19:15 MDT Print View

Jo has re-introduced a separate net inner for Hexamid Solo+.

Jeff M.
(Catalyst) - M

Locale: Costa Mesa, CA
Re: Net inner for Hexamid on 08/16/2013 18:15:05 MDT Print View

Good to know! Looks to be priced decently too - significantly cheaper than getting a similar one from bearpaw once you add all the options.

Edited by Catalyst on 08/16/2013 18:16:50 MDT.

Steven Davis
(StevenDavisPhoto) - M

Locale: SF Bay Area
zpacks on 08/16/2013 19:26:03 MDT Print View

I'm looking at the Zpacks Hexamid shelter. With everything it's exactly 16oz and fits your needs I think.

Brian Mix
(Aggro) - F - M

Locale: Western slope, Sierra Nevada
Hexamid on 08/16/2013 21:02:04 MDT Print View

It just so happens I have a hexamid currently for sale...
Just thought I'd throw that out there!
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=80826&skip_to_post=688021#688021

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Hexamid on 08/17/2013 06:35:32 MDT Print View

Hi Brian,

Will Pm.

Cheers,

Stephen

Jim Jessop
(StokeyJim) - MLife
Hexamid on 08/17/2013 08:18:05 MDT Print View

I got my Hexamid Solo Tarp with the separate Hexanet solo bug shelter when Joe still made it. It works great for me and I love it!

I'd be interested to try the Hexamid Solo Tent with net floor to compare, but never had the chance.

I see Joe has started making the separate Hexanet again, but only for the solo-plus.

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: A very flat place (Grrrrrrrr)
Re: Hexamid on 08/17/2013 08:35:58 MDT Print View

a seperate inner sounds handy.

Chad Poindexter
(Stick) - F

Locale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
Hexamid Tent vs Tarp & Inner Net on 08/17/2013 09:09:38 MDT Print View

I started with the tent version of the Hexamid Solo Plus, and loved it. However, for me, I found that I didn't like the amount of water & mud that the mesh floor wold pick up when it rained. I found that by setting it up in a grassy area when expecting rain helped decrease this a little, but in the end, it was just a bit more than I personally wanted to deal with.

So, I sold it and picked up the Solo plus tarp and the new hexanet for it. I haven't had a chance to use it on the trail yet, but have tested it 4 nights so far and really like this option. I prefer the solid cuben floor as opposed to the mesh floor, and I love that I can set up one or the other, or both if need be.

However, don't think that I am knocking the tent version... as I said, it was a personal choice for me. There are pro's & con's to each set-up. The obvious pro to the tent version is less fiddle & more interior room. The obvious pro with the tarp & net combo is more versatility and (IMO) a cleaner option when in wet situations. Of course there are others too, but these are the ones that stand out to me.

As for weight, both, my tent version & now the tarp & net version are with an oz of each other. (But to be fair, my tent was seam sealed with SilNet first, and then I also taped the inside. My tarp is only taped. So, the tent would have been a bit lighter...)

Anyway, I gotta say that I love the Hexamids. They are priced right (comparing to other cuben shelters), are obviously lightweight, and have been proven to be reliable shelters by many other users. Not saying it's the best out there... it just has a lot of features that I really like. And as far as setting it up, I find that it is quite easy. Check out this video of me setting my the tarp & net tent:

Setting Up My Hexamid Tarp & Hexanet