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Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
SoCal, Idyllwild, PCT, Palm Springs, San Bernardino National Forest on 08/14/2013 21:42:42 MDT Print View

The past month has brought a series of accidental and arson fires. 5 or 6 in the Idy area.

So for the So Cal hikers (Nick G, Craig) here is a link to the list of trail closures.

http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SanJacintoMonumentTrailClosures.pdf

The article says some trails may be closed for months (plural) because the ashes have taken over and the trail can be hard to find. It's not over, after the first winter heavy rain, there will be more flash flood and hillside mud slides. :( x 1000.

http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2013/08/13/idyllwild-area-trail-closures-may-last-for-months/

Edited by RogerDodger on 08/14/2013 21:45:12 MDT.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: SoCal, Idyllwild, PCT, Palm Springs, San Bernardino National Forest on 08/15/2013 07:25:26 MDT Print View

so the entire PCT thru the San Jacinto area is closed ???

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
Re: Re: SoCal, Idyllwild, PCT, Palm Springs, San Bernardino National Forest on 08/18/2013 00:47:17 MDT Print View

As of today:

Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) Garner Valley to I-10 Closed to Visitor

The Pacific Crest Trail is closed from Highway 74 (mile 152) to Strawberry Junction (mile 183) near the San Jacinto State Park boundary due to the Mountain Fire Closure Area. PCT is closed from the State Park to I-10 due to the Silver Fire Closure Order 13-12. The PCT is open between Saddle Junction to South Ridge Trail only (access to Tahquitz Peak Fire Lookout).


Access to *Red Tahquitz is closed because its shared with PCT trail. Same with Black Mountain lookout. Laws Camp, Caramba overlook, and I don't think the Palm Springs tram is running yet.

Scroll down on this page to see updates.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/recmain/sbnf/recreation


Also Hwy 243 is partially open this weekend for the Jazz festival, but starting Monday it will be closed so CalTrans and clean up. They did say that they will open to traffic every 15 minutes with a Pilot car for a 1-way single lane. So expect serious traffic delays.

I'm also told that the shrubs and bushes on the side of the road are now burned, many locals used them as visual markers when driving, to mentally center the car on the lane. Now without the bushes, locals who are "experts" on this mountain road are finding it scary and dangerous to navigate without the shrub markers.

Edited by RogerDodger on 08/18/2013 00:51:24 MDT.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: SoCal, Idyllwild, PCT, Palm Springs, San Bernardino National Forest on 08/20/2013 22:17:25 MDT Print View

Its a major bummer.

A trip report in the general area I did about 3 weeks ago -

Avoiding the PCT

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
After the forest fires, any photos? on 12/19/2013 09:48:11 MST Print View

Four months after the San J forest fires, there's been canyon mudslide, flash floods, deep wilderness trail closures for 12 months. Now we have a little snow and rain.

I spoke with a uniformed FS ranger, that said he wasn't even allowed in the Laws/Caramba/Red Tahq zone. The trail maintenance crews don't have any budget left for 2013, and looking at 2014 to rebuild the trails and remove the widow makers.

http://idyllwildtowncrier.com/2013/11/20/local-trails-closed-year/

Has anyone come across recent photos from inside the deep woods burn forbidden zone?

Edited by RogerDodger on 12/19/2013 09:52:23 MST.

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: After the forest fires, any photos? on 12/19/2013 14:24:52 MST Print View

"Has anyone come across recent photos from inside the deep woods burn forbidden zone?"

And risk being picked up by the NSA?

Roger Dodger
(RogerDodger) - F

Locale: Wess Siide
Re: Re: After the forest fires, any photos? on 12/19/2013 14:30:05 MST Print View

We fear the men in green jackets, but not the blackened evergreen trees.