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Maia
(maia) - MLife

Locale: Rocky Mountains
Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 16:37:38 MDT Print View

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Backpacking Tights - Part 1

Tony Wong
(Valshar) - MLife

Locale: San Francisco Bay Area
Re: Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 17:08:09 MDT Print View

Great article...always good to challenge our pre-conceived notions of what is the "proper" way of doing things.

I see nothing wrong with wearing tights.

Runners have some wisdom that we can learn from.

My only concern with tights is on the trail durability.

The "traditional" nylon pants are very durable. I have slide on my butt a few times on granite with my REI ones for short distances. I have tumbled, tripped, and have fallen a few times with scrapped knees or shins, but my pants were fine.

My concern with tights is that I would be left with a gapping hole in them.

Is this much of a concern and are there durable options with tights that can offer similar protection?

Looking forward to the next half of this article.

Tony

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 18:06:41 MDT Print View

I have no issues with tights other than pants are easier to put on, have pockets. I would shred tights with the underbrush where I hike now. They have worked for me elsewhere.

Daniel Pittman
(pitsy) - M

Locale: Central Texas
Re: Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 18:07:04 MDT Print View

I'm doing it! Hope y'all are prepared to see my skinny ass in tights. Don't be meat-gazing, now....

Ken Thompson
(kthompson) - MLife

Locale: Behind the Redwood Curtain
Re: Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 18:09:11 MDT Print View

You can wear shorts over them and keep your secrets to yourself.

Craig W.
(xnomanx) - F - M
Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 18:22:54 MDT Print View

"My concern with tights is that I would be left with a gapping hole in them."

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But Hammer pants are way cooler. All your consumables, clothing, and shelter can be hung in the crotch. Even better center of gravity than an Aarn pack.

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Tom Kirchner
(ouzel) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest/Sierra
Re: Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/13/2013 19:18:42 MDT Print View

"My concern with tights is that I would be left with a gapping hole in them."

Nice floss. ;0]

Dave Grey
(dapperdave) - F
Re: Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/14/2013 02:39:04 MDT Print View

Craig,

I see your hammer pants and raise you a Cameo Codpiece

Word Up

Dave

James Marco
(jamesdmarco) - MLife

Locale: Finger Lakes
"Backpacking Tights - Part 1" on 08/14/2013 06:17:44 MDT Print View

OK, I admit to doing this sometimes. Flattering to my body form thay are not. 'Corse at my age it doesn't really matter.

I use my smartwool pants and shirt exactly as you describe at times. Usually I bring a second long sleeved UL Ibex or Smartwool shirt for hking in. I have been doing that for the past 10 years or so. I can confirm that they do act like a wet suit in heavy rains.

However, in the ADK's at least, they soon develope holes. Getting these layers off while wet, under a tarp is no fun, and putting on a wet sticky layer(after rinsing them out)is difficult. I often will put my thumb or finger through the fabric. And after 5-6 hours of steady rain, they start chafing in odd places, usually at the seams, somewhere. My lower back, underarms, groin, and chest often get very sore after two or three days. I look at these as more helping with about a day of wetness or occasional rain storms over the course of a day than a long term solution to being wet. There is no replacing a rain jacket in two or three days of steady rain when it comes to chafing.

A friend, a semi-professional bike racer, has tights that I tried, but these are actually worse for wear and tear than smartwool. They snag on leaves quite easily and are a mess to clean up after a full day of hiking through the ADK's. A single trip often causes major fraying and surface knots where the threads have come loose.

The bugs get very bad in some of the lower areas, mosquitoes being the worst ... especially this year. A second layer of clothing is required for these areas. As you say, they are no protection.

Anyway, the drying is second to none, drying faster than my nylon pants most of the time. I often rinse my long johns in the local creek. This has other implications, but drying them by wringing them tightly and putting them on is a viable methode. As you say, body heat will soon dry them, provided you can avoid hiking in them through wet shrubbery or getting rained on again. If you are getting rained on, it doesn't matter anyway.

Multiple layers, such as at your waist or where your socks cover the bottom, or where your pack is against your back, do not dry well. Often, even two layers, such as shorts over tights, keeps both pieces wet for many hours longer than a single layer. The outer layer stops or limits air flow to the inner layer. Air flow is extreamly important to drying times. But, generally in 40-50F temps, I have found a single layer of long johns to be warmer than the nylon pants, simply because of the faster drying...once you are somewhere dry. A timely piece you wrote, and I thank you.

Regardless of hiking cloths, I always keep my sleeping cloths/camp cloths dry. Longjohns, socks and a down jacket are packed with my sleeping bag. As long as I am hiking, I can tolerate a lot of temp change. When I stop, I WILL get cold at 35F. My tarp, dry cloths, stove & hot drink become my priorities. A fire if possible, but if it has been raining for a couple days, I ignore it. I strip my wet shirt, and slip on my dry shirt. I strip my shoes, socks and pants and put on dry cloths, then I put my jacket on.

Rather than risk my sleeping cloths getting wet, I will often strip and slip my nylon pants back on if I have to leave my shelter for any reason. (I try to make sure I have relieved myself before "hiding" under the tarp.) I used to worry that I looked like a fool under my tarp: in longjohns, cuddled up around a stove, or drinking a cup of cocoa, maybe with my bag around my shoulders. Well, I guess I do, but I don't believe it is foolish to do so if I am also warm, dry and fairly comfortable. You can laugh at me, it IS allowed.

Steven McAllister
(brooklynkayak) - MLife

Locale: Atlantic North East
Backpacking Tights - Part 1 on 08/14/2013 10:02:45 MDT Print View

Tights combined with hiking pants are my garment of choice in cold rain.

You get pockets, shred protection, extra warmth and you feel dryer.

I have even worn windpants over the top when it was really wet, cold and windy.

The three items, tights, hiking pants and windpants can be mixed and matched depending on conditions.

Tights and wind pants combined are warmer and can weigh less than your average hiking pants alone.

John Dennis
(johnrdennis04)
Tights have been common in my region for a long time on 08/14/2013 11:08:53 MDT Print View

I live in New England. I started seeing tights (especially on men) years ago, usually with a pair of shorts over them. It's a perfect layering strategy. Are you hot? Wear shorts only. Is the temp on the cool side? Wear tights under your shorts. Is the temp moderately cold? Wear your pants. Is the temp very cold? Wear your tights under your pants. Are you warm enough in your bag at night? Wear just your underwear. Are you cold in your bag? Wear your tights to bed. Etc.

There is such tremendous versatility in how you dress when you have tights. Plus typically they are a very light weight garment to add to your pack, worth it to gain that flexibility.

Pants are soaking wet when you get to camp? Change into your tights! :-)

Is this really something new?

Tim Cheek
(hikerfan4sure) - MLife
Do tights help with muscle fatigue? on 08/14/2013 11:11:23 MDT Print View

Thanks for the article.

I was wondering if you have discerned less muscle fatigue from wearing tights.

See this article, http://www.ehow.com/about_6511756_effectiveness-compression-tights.html

David Chenault
(DaveC) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Crown of the Continent
re: tights on 08/14/2013 11:20:09 MDT Print View

Mandex is the way to go for sure. Ideally accessorized with camo and a rifle.

eric chan
(bearbreeder) - F - M
women on 08/14/2013 11:27:49 MDT Print View

women wear em all the time out here ... we are where lululemon is based of course ... and many of em seem to do just fine

theres a reason why all these men hike the grouse grind and squamish chief out here ... and often it aint for the green outdoors =P

as to why? ... modesty and self consciousness for the most part ...

;)

Damien Tougas
(dtougas) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Gaspé Peninsula
Mandex on 08/14/2013 12:08:02 MDT Print View

LOL! "Mandex", I like it! A new word to add to my vocab.

Monty Montana
(TarasBulba) - MLife

Locale: Rocky Mountains
re: tights on 08/14/2013 14:57:24 MDT Print View

Insightful article, thanks! I have a couple pair of cycling tights, but I've never worn them hiking; however, what I do wear in the Rocky Mountain shoulder seasons is NB running shorts w/ pockets (4 oz) paired with Craft leg warmers (3.6 oz), less than half the weight of your typical cargo pocket hiking pant. On very cold days I'll wear some old school wool cycling leg warmers (7.4 oz).

Now, don't be confused by what's being marketed so frequently in the catalogs as leg warmers, because they're actually knee warmers; leg warmers extend from the ankle to near the top of the thigh. Giver that, there is not much of a concern for double layer fabric overlap and the attendant drying time, and they're a cinch to get off or on to accommodate the whim of the sun and parting clouds without sacrificing one's modesty. It works for me, and I guess tights would, also!

Happy Trails!

spelt !
(spelt) - F

Locale: SW/C PA
Re: re: tights on 08/14/2013 15:18:15 MDT Print View

I don't really like full length unless it's actually cold. I usually wear compression shorts, though, which I've heard called "short tights."

Still laughing at "mandex"...

Damien Tougas
(dtougas) - BPL Staff - F

Locale: Gaspé Peninsula
Re: re: tights on 08/14/2013 16:19:12 MDT Print View

Full length leg warmers sound like a pretty cool idea, thanks for the tip!

Mike M
(mtwarden) - MLife

Locale: Montana
tights on 08/14/2013 18:11:08 MDT Print View

<- tight wearer- have a couple different pairs, use them for backpacking, running, skiing, snowshoeing- one pair (Mtn Hardwear 3/4 length) probably qualifies as mandex :)

And E
(LunchANDYnner) - M

Locale: Pacific Northwest
tights plus running shorts on 08/14/2013 18:48:13 MDT Print View

When I run in the winter, I always wear light running shorts over thin tights.
This is how I hike when it's cold out as well. Nice to see others do too!