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josh jordan
(jjchgo) - M
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 16:55:23 MDT Print View

"Your post just reads as disrespectful to me. Why is there always hate towards people who do things differently than you. I hate basketball but millions of people play basketball every day.. why do people play basketball?"

again there is something to be said about assuming. you are reading way to much into it. if had anything hateful to say I would just come out and say it. this is a forum for discussing things. I made a simple state and asked a simple question. nothing more nothing less. If you questioned me about my past wrestling I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch and take offense. I would tell you that at the time it wasn't always pleasant and a lot of the time didn't enjoy it but looking back at it was a great time in my life. If you asked me if I would do it different, I would say hell yeah! see how simple that is...

have a cold beer and lighten up. not everything is about hate. some of us just have questions or like to discuss reasons behind things. this is a forum...

Nick Gatel
(ngatel) - MLife

Locale: Southern California
Re: Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 16:57:26 MDT Print View

"maybe i'm missing something but is that supposed to sounds enjoyable?"

The goal is a PCT record. Each day entails a lot of hard work that seems painful, but for some it is feedback from their body and environment. For some it tells them they are alive and well -- it is good feedback. How often do us normal backpackers have sore legs at the end of the day or are gimpy for a few days after a trip -- most I suspect -- it that enjoyable?

Only the athlete can determine if the end result is worth the daily obstacles. World record distance runners do this almost daily for years and years to reach the goal.

Lets celebrate this woman who had a goal, overcame personal challenges, and came up on top. Its the human spirit -- and for this lady the Spirit is alive and well.

Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 18:26:16 MDT Print View

" I made a simple state and asked a simple question. nothing more nothing less."

every time someone discusses speed hiking or going for a record the same question comes up. People have the need to question why someone would enjoy something because it isn't enjoyable to them. Instead of celebrating their accomplishment they question their entire trip.

I Thru hiked the Long Trail last summer. Last fall Nikki Kimball ran it (supported) in 1/3 the time I hiked it. I was extremely impressed and could appreciate the work she put into it.

Katharina ....
(Kat_P) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Coast
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 18:33:43 MDT Print View

She hiked it in a sundress :)

Jason Elsworth
(jephoto) - M

Locale: New Zealand
New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 18:39:02 MDT Print View

Fantastic achievement. It is amazing what some people can do.

Mary D
(hikinggranny) - MLife

Locale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
New Pacific CREST Trail Record on 08/07/2013 19:19:20 MDT Print View

For what it's worth dept.: Anish passed Harts Pass about 1:40 pm today and expects to reach Canada before midnight.

While I'm not into this speed record stuff (think of the fantastic scenery she's missing by hiking in the dark!), I can't help but be excited for her at this stage!

Edited by hikinggranny on 08/07/2013 19:23:16 MDT.

Hiking Malto
(gg-man) - F
Three records in a week. on 08/07/2013 19:44:12 MDT Print View

Anish is expected to finish tonight, Matt Kirk should be finishing the AT any second and the JMT record went down in flames. What an incredible week to push the bounds of human endurance athletics.

Miguel Arboleda
(butuki) - MLife

Locale: Kanto Plain, Japan
Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 20:07:23 MDT Print View

Anish had a huge grin in almost every photo she took of herself during the the entire walk. She looked very much like she was have a blast. And if you read her other words, most of it is about having a wonderful time.

I don't think it is helpful or relevant to say that "women are tougher than men". There are tough women, and weak women, tough men, and weak men. It's not helpful or relevant to compare men and women, and make it into an either/ or equation. Anish's accomplishment shows that it really doesn't matter. Certainly not with hiking.

Anish is one tough woman! And so is Scott, the former champion.

This accomplishment just gives women a strong precedent to believe in themselves and do big things. Yes, a woman can beat a man's record. And why not?

She hiked it in a sundress :)

I love that she totally goes her own way. And stays completely herself, no pretension or grandiose speeches at all in her writing. Love that. Since I just bought a hiking kilt, I'll have to see if it speeds up my strides at all! :^)

jerry adams
(retiredjerry) - MLife

Locale: Oregon and Washington
Re: Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/07/2013 20:25:02 MDT Print View

"I don't think it is helpful or relevant to say that "women are tougher than men"..."

Still, it's nice when women can break athletic records. Didn't a woman win Iditarod?

Now it would be nice if a woman would become U.S. president : )

Aaron Sorensen
(awsorensen) - MLife

Locale: South of Forester Pass
Re: Re: Re: New Pacific Crest Trail Record on 08/07/2013 20:50:22 MDT Print View

Josh and others,

You are also asking a question in your reply.
We are just answering your question.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Never, EVER... on 08/07/2013 21:02:17 MDT Print View

I will never, EVER understand speed hiking - period.

But if it floats your boat then fine. But it should be a personal accomplishment and not something for publicity. The fast trail hike times, to me at least, come under the heading of WGAS?.

Kevin B
(kedward) - F

Locale: Portland, OR
Re: Never, EVER... on 08/07/2013 21:25:43 MDT Print View

Haha, what? Why on Earth shouldn't she (or anyone else speed hiking/going for FKTs) try to get publicity for it? Anish et. al. are doing amazing things and deserve recognition for it—not to mention the fact that nobody is forcing anyone to read about it. Other people do GAS. It seems like anytime this sort of thing comes up on hiking forums there's a backlash against it, it completely blows my mind: live and let live.

And for what it's worth, I happened to meet Anish a few weeks ago along the trail, knowing absolutely zilch about her attempt. Chatted for a few minutes, gave her some chocolate and water (super hot day in the Siskiyous), and she was on her way. She didn't mention the record attempt once, and she looked like she was having a blast.

Edited by kedward on 08/07/2013 21:26:15 MDT.

Jake D
(JakeDatc) - F

Locale: Bristol,RI
Re: Never, EVER... on 08/07/2013 21:36:37 MDT Print View

I'm sure this person was sponsored at least somehow... publicity= sponsorship =publicity for sponsors.

It can be a personal accomplishment and shared with the world too.

Ueli Steck does something fast but unfamiliar people go YAY.. someone does something familiar and relate-able then it's WHY.... Just because it involves trails seems to rub people the wrong way since no one seems to have anything against other types of racing.

Luckily the people involved are too happy and excited by what they did to care about haters.

Look at the horrible time she is having, missing out on all of that scenery. :eye roll:
anish

Edited by JakeDatc on 08/07/2013 22:18:25 MDT.

David Thomas
(DavidinKenai) - MLife

Locale: North Woods. Far North.
Northern girls on 08/07/2013 23:35:22 MDT Print View

Jerry: you're referring to the 1985-1990 period of the Iditarod.

1985 - Libby Riddles won, first woman to do so.

86, 87, 88, 89, 90 - Susan Butcher placed 1, 1, 1, 2, 1.

In 89, it was close and they didn't know in Nome who was ahead. As the winner approached, like in the delivery room, a cry went out, "It's a boy!"

T-shirts of that time said, "Alaska, where the men are real men. And women win the Iditarod."

The first Saturday in March (Iditarod Start) is Susan Butcher Day in Alaska (she died pretty young a few years ago).

I bumped into her in a gas station, and even before I recognized her, had a strong sense of, "this is a woman who can take care of herself" like facing down a moose on a distant trail or caring for dogs on the trail at -40.

BJ Clark
(bj.clark) - MLife

Locale: Colorado
Anish's hike over! on 08/08/2013 17:30:22 MDT Print View

61 days, 17 hours, 12 minutes! Mind boggling. Good for her.

Richard May
(richardmay)

Locale: Costa Rica
New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/08/2013 17:46:14 MDT Print View

She's got an amazing accomplishment. And that is very cool.

To many simply having a base weight <10# is Type II fun. It's a matter of perspective. I've had super Type I's say to me, "I enjoy the scenery." I just smile smugly.

Ian Destroyer of Forums
(IDBLOOM) - MLife

Locale: PNW
Re: New Pacific Crest Trail Record on 08/08/2013 17:55:25 MDT Print View

"On a side note, why do people place basketball, baseball and golf when they can play hockey???"

Truer words never spoken.

On a serious note, I think her accomplishment is very inspiring and I'm glad there are athletes like her setting new standards for everyone to follow.

Barry Cuthbert
(nzbazza) - MLife

Locale: New Zealand
Josh Garrett on 08/08/2013 18:43:34 MDT Print View

Anish's record may not last long. Josh Garrett has also being doing a record attempt on the PCT for the FKT. Unsure whether he has been doing it unsupported/supported. There seems to be some discussion over on his facebook page as to the relative amounts of "support" each received.

Also in finishing just after Anish, Josh would have the benefit of using Anish as a pacesetter.

Both Anish and Josh have carried out extremely impressible feats of sustained speed and endurance, having taken 4-5 days off the old record.

https://www.facebook.com/josh.garrett.505?fref=ts

Hiking Malto
(gg-man) - F
Re: Josh Garrett on 08/08/2013 18:52:17 MDT Print View

Not sure what the debate is..... The articles that I read seems quite clear that Josh had prearranged food at trailheads. That puts it as a supported hike and Anish would have the unsupported record and Josh supported. No apparent controversy..

Marko Botsaris
(millonas) - F - MLife

Locale: Santa Cruz Mountains, CA
Re: New Pacific Coast Trail Record on 08/08/2013 18:56:40 MDT Print View

"Nah...PCT is more like Mahler."

Mahler does seem more appropriate. There is not much of the "agony of the feet" in Beethoven. I'm sure some bad days probably feel more like late Bartok quartets, to flog the metaphor even more. :-o