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Gregory Allen
(Gallen1119) - M

Locale: Golden, CO
I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 12:01:18 MDT Print View

Don't get me wrong, I love my flat square sil tarp for its versatility, but I am in search of simplisity. I don't mind a little fiddling around to get the pitch just right, but it seems I am consistently changing things after the pitch. I want to hike more and fiddle less. I've read many of the recent shelter threads, and I think I am narrowing it down to a mid for less fiddle-factor. Are people happy with their duomids? Seems like they are rare on gear swap, and when they do show up, they last about 10 minutes. Are there other two-person, trekking pole based shelters I should be looking at? Anybody in Denver area willing to loan/rent a duo for a single night hike?

Stephen M
(stephenm) - MLife

Locale: Mind your own business
Re: I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 12:11:47 MDT Print View

check out the Tarp Tent Ss1 also.

Bradford Rogers
(Mocs123) - MLife

Locale: Southeast Tennessee
Re: I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 12:26:07 MDT Print View

You might also look at the Golite Shangri-la 2. It is cheaper, longer and has more head and foot room in the ends. The new ones are seam taped and unlike Silnylon, they don't mist.

Another option would be on Oware Alphamid. The footprint is about the same but is 6' tall in the middle so even more headroom at the apex than the Duomid.

Note, I am not discounting the Duomid, just giving you a few more options.

Stuart .
(lotuseater) - F

Locale: Colorado
Re: I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 14:20:17 MDT Print View

Is this primarily for one or two person use? With a single pole, there's limited headroom for two to sit upright at the same time under the Duomid. I'm happy under mine solo or with my 6 year old son or a dog, but it's a bit tight with two adults. A two pole setup like the TT StratoSpire gives much more headroom for two plus two vestibules, but at the cost of a bigger footprint, higher weight, and a slightly more fiddly pitch. If our paths cross on Boulder Creek this weekend I'll be happy to pitch the Duomid so you can get a sense of speed and ease, plus liveable space.

Heath Pitts
(heathpitts) - F

Locale: Nashville
Re: Re: I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 15:40:37 MDT Print View

Another vote for the tarptent SS1. Really enjoying this tent and is a lot less fiddly than my trailstar. Tarptent also sells it as a fly only if you aren't looking for an inner tent.

Franco Darioli
(Franco) - M

Locale: @Tarptent
I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 16:46:57 MDT Print View

Fiddly set up (TT SS2)
This is how I set it up ,this way, the first time :

This is about half an hour after I opened the box , the first set up was done Henry's way then I tried that version just to see.
I am not much faster now after many dozens set ups but not slower either...

I suspect that some can also set up the Duomid faster/easier than others.

Dan Durston
(dandydan) - F

Duomid on 07/31/2013 19:38:34 MDT Print View

Single trekking pole mids (DuoMid, BD Megalight etc) are simpler than ones that use two trekking poles (ie. BD BetaLight, TT SS1, GoLite Shangra-La etc). That's not to say dual trekking pole shelters can't be set up very quick and efficiently, but single pole mids are the kings of simplicity and ease - very desirable traits.

In my opinion, solo hikers are best served by a single pole supported mid. These shelters are the simplest, lightest and quickest and the shape works well for one hiker. For two hikers, a single pole mid (and thus single peak) can problematic in terms of space (headroom), which is where the benefits of a two pole mid come into play. The TT SS2 solves the headroom problems two hikers will encounter in a single pole 'mid through the use of two pulls and some additional struts.

So for just you, I highly recommend the DuoMid. I've used a number of solo shelters and they all have positive attributes, but the DuoMid is by far my favourite because when you're out there and just want simple, solid and easy, it's going to deliver. 4 stakes in a rectangle, one pole in the middle and you're done (unless you want extra guylines).

So yes, I really like my DuoMid. I use a solo inner in the back half during bug season.

Edited by dandydan on 07/31/2013 19:39:51 MDT.

locus on 07/31/2013 20:16:51 MDT Print View

Locus Gear , probably more available than MLD too. The precision of the manufacture shows in the taughtness of the pitch.

FWIW , I doubt I will ever have another shelter thats not cuben, unless they invent something lighter, cheaper, and that also doesnt stretch when wet.

Gregory Allen
(Gallen1119) - M

Locale: Golden, CO
Re: I think I want a duomid? on 07/31/2013 22:05:17 MDT Print View

Thanks for all the responses so far. This will primarily be for two, but occasional solo. Was thinking I would do the inverted V-pole setup for two. I had considered the Tarptent SS2, and the video, Franco, was very helpful. I'm just not sure I want the extra weight or larger footprint. The Shangri-la looks nice and easy. Also easy on the $.

Really also like the Locus and Oware products, but $ouch$. In addition, I've never owned/slept in a cuben shelter, so maybe I just don't understand the added value or appreciate the weight savings. Just afraid I will experience buyer's remorse after that kind of cash spent. If I was going to do CF, a Hexamid Twin, Duomid, or Locus Khufu is tempting. Just not sure I can justify the extra cost. Has anyone ever regretted a CF shelter purchase? The only CF I have currently is a stuff's really nice and light.

CF on 07/31/2013 22:45:49 MDT Print View

"Has anyone ever regretted a CF shelter purchase?"

Nope. I have never regretted carrying it either.

Even when an errant rock thrown by a kid, went THRU my 0.51 hexamid. Duct tape makes a quick and easy field repair, and cuben fiber tape makes a permanent repair. Cuben, although expensive and not that abrasion resistant or durable in lighter weights, is easily repaired with tape, something that cant be said for most other materials. Also, no messy seam sealing.

Clayton Mauritzen
(GlacierRambler) - F

Locale: NW Montana
Re: Shelter for Two on 07/31/2013 23:32:19 MDT Print View

I have shared a few nights in a Duomid with others, and I never found it to be that bad. It was tight, sure, but I never felt that it was unlivable, especially compared to the sloping walls of a lot of tents out there (e.g., BA Fly Creek series).

Then, I bought an SS2 for when my wife comes along, and I wouldn't take anything else for two hikers. The amount of space for two is impressive and the weight penalty minimal (fly only). I love the Duomid (even decided to upgrade to CF from sil), but it is now a solo tent except for emergencies. The SS2 is my official two person set-up. And the more I pitch it, the easier and less fiddly it has gotten. Now it goes up fast and easy.

If you want stick with 'mids for two, look at the larger ones like the Shangri-la 3, BD Megalight, or Oware 8x8' pyramid. A larger footprint is the price you have to pay for the shelter's benefits, and with a little planning or effort, is rarely a problem.

Edited by GlacierRambler on 07/31/2013 23:38:24 MDT.

Robert Meurant
(rmeurant) - MLife
CF plus and minus and PLUS PLUS PLUS on 08/01/2013 00:19:57 MDT Print View

In addition to the weight/strength/waterproofness advantages, CF is in my experience user friendly, nice to the touch and body contact (e.g. I have no problem using a spare CF footprint as a blanket or perimeter wind break inside my tarp). Visually, it is a treat, as it gets away from the machine ethos.

The only drawbacks are the transparency, with consequent loss of privacy; and the increased solar gain, so in hot regions, white cuben becomes like a glasshouse in the direct sun.

I'm now using a new Locus Khufu in black cuben, taking advantage of the recent drop in value of the yen, and the proximity (I'm in Korea). The tarp shipped right on time, and I found them most cooperative. There is almost a reflective effect to the fabric, like a sheen, which I did not expect (and which is not present on the white/grey cuben), and which is not so great for stealth purposes, but which I am hoping will improve its solar performance, i.e. reflect sunlight more, with less gain - yet to determine.

Other than that it appears refreshingly handmade, almost like a tweed jacket.

I find the Khufu design excellent. As well as the great workmanship, it fits the body very well, providing space just where it is needed, and the catenary cut ribs mean it pitches rapidly and well - it is dead easy to get a great pitch in no time, which is a real advantage when you are tired. But I note the waiting time for Locus Gear tarps has jumped to 12 weeks.

You might want to check out image _DSC2504 at

which will give you a good idea of the black cuben Khufu (but which doesn't show the sheen - it is difficult to photo).

Benjamin Moryson
(hrXXL) - MLife

Locale: Germany
Locus Gear on 08/01/2013 07:41:39 MDT Print View

One year ago I was also thinking about th pyramid shelter and in the end I bought an Locus Gear Khufu and I'm really satiesfied with this tent