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Billy Ray
(rosyfinch) - M

Locale: the mountains
UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 11:23:03 MDT Print View

I just got off the phone with Inyo National Forest Wilderness Permit Office.

They confirmed that it is legal to use an UrSack...

Bill D

Randy Martin
(randalmartin) - F

Locale: Colorado
Re: UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 12:16:35 MDT Print View

I have an Ursack, For those using it Bear country, I would plan to use the Aluminum liner insert with it.

Edited by randalmartin on 07/08/2013 12:17:11 MDT.

Art ...
(asandh) - F
Re: Re: UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 12:27:04 MDT Print View

I have an Ursak with Aluminum liner which I have barely used because it was not approved where I went.
I have always been a bit questioning about the wisdom of that liner.
1. it adds weight
2. my food can still get crushed
3. the sharp edges seemed like they would actually help the bear tear thru the fabric if he was persistant enough

Randy Martin
(randalmartin) - F

Locale: Colorado
Re: Re: Re: UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 12:37:24 MDT Print View

My understanding is one of the key points of the liner is it makes it hard for the Bear to grab it by making the material around it tight. Kinda of like a football player wearing a tight jersey so they are more difficult to grab/tackle.

Edited by randalmartin on 07/08/2013 12:37:56 MDT.

USA Duane Hall
(hikerduane) - F

Locale: Extreme northern Sierra Nevada
UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 14:09:41 MDT Print View

I find the insert causes wear areas on the bag and is next to impossible if not impossible to get that last little bit of opening closed up to prevent mice from entry. I have the older version of the green, Kevlar bag. I guess its good I have hung onto it. I think it weighs around 20-21 oz. with the insert. Using just the bag in another week in Desolation, just for fun.
Duane

Josh Brock
(needsAbath)

Locale: Outside
??? on 07/08/2013 14:10:31 MDT Print View

Does this mean anything for the rest of california?

Sorry I have no clue how bear resistant container testing works... I was under the impression that only a couple agencies did testing for most all of california's national forest where bear cans are required.

Kevin Burton
(burtonator) - F - M

Locale: norcal
Re: ??? on 07/08/2013 14:31:52 MDT Print View

I imagine they throw a huge freaking steak in the bag and give it to a Grizzly in a zoo.

I'm serious actually.. I was reading on the Ursack site that they did that :)

Probably a good idea to give the bear the steak at the end just so that you're not cruel.

Kevin Burton
(burtonator) - F - M

Locale: norcal
Re: Re: Re: UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 14:33:11 MDT Print View

I don't think cutting it will be practical. It's spectra... not going to cut easily.

I don't carry the aluminum liner. I have a fishing rod... if a bear destroys my food I'll just eat fish until I hike out.

I actually did this for a day a few years back when I underpacked food :)

Hoot Filsinger
(filsinger) - MLife

Locale: Pacific Northwest
Re: UrSack okayed by Inyo on 07/08/2013 16:20:50 MDT Print View

The most current news on the Ursack website is June 5th.

Greg Mihalik
(greg23) - M

Locale: Colorado
Re: ??? on 07/08/2013 17:10:56 MDT Print View

"Does this mean anything for the rest of california?"

Nope.


"I was under the impression that only a couple agencies did testing for most all of california's national forest where bear cans are required"

Only one, Sierra Interagency Black Bear Group, now disbanded to avoid law suits.

The Grizzly Discover Center does testing for bear containers in general, not specifically for California.