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Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback.
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David Brandenberg
(daveinflag) - F

Locale: High Desert
Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 10:34:47 MDT Print View

We have a couple questions and we are looking for opinions.

We have given Outsak UL a makeover. We have replaced the stainless steel mesh with a new type. We like it. It has passed all of our field testing. Our field testers have indicated no problems. We are at a crossroads in development and want some input.

Would you:

Keep the weight the same as the current Outsak UL and increase its capacity?

or

Would you keep the capacity the same as the current model and reduce weight?

Please share your opinion. We want to start making them after our summer break.

Thanks for the input.

Eric Lundquist
(cobberman) - F - M

Locale: Northern Colorado
Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 10:57:42 MDT Print View

Both, you could increase capacity and market the original size as the SUL version.

Eric Blumensaadt
(Danepacker) - MLife

Locale: Mojave Desert
Original v.s. New on 07/03/2013 12:24:37 MDT Print View

Please post photos of the original Outsak and the new one to help us compare and offer suggestions.

David Brandenberg
(daveinflag) - F

Locale: High Desert
Re: Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 12:37:37 MDT Print View

HA!! Yeah, I guess we could.

No pictures. Nothing really to tell from a picture anyways. gut reaction is what I'm looking for. Some of you have used the Outsak UL or UL Micro. Not much in the way of looks or style is changing. Just curious about more room or less weight.

Edited by daveinflag on 07/03/2013 12:39:36 MDT.

Stephen Barber
(grampa) - MLife

Locale: SoCal
New Outsack UL on 07/03/2013 13:41:26 MDT Print View

"Keep the weight the same as the current Outsak UL and increase its capacity?"

Yes, please!

Dave U
(FamilyGuy) - F

Locale: Rockies
Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 13:51:40 MDT Print View

Yup. To both of your questions. Offer both.

Chad B
(CenAZwalker) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 14:02:02 MDT Print View

Offer both.

David Brandenberg
(daveinflag) - F

Locale: High Desert
Re: Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 14:46:21 MDT Print View

...but if you had to pick one, which would it be?

We will still have the Outsak UL Micro. The choice on the UL will also affect the the UL Micro.

More than likely we won't offer 2 UL's and a micro. Minor differences like that we already do...most times for just a few bucks. Those are custom bag adjustments. Just contact us.

Eric Lundquist
(cobberman) - F - M

Locale: Northern Colorado
Re: Re: Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 15:07:17 MDT Print View

If you are only looking at one or the other, keep the size the same. The size has for the most part been working for many of your clients already. Unless several have come forward requesting a larger capacity, just make your current offerings in the lighter material.

David Brandenberg
(daveinflag) - F

Locale: High Desert
Re: Re: Re: Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 16:30:45 MDT Print View

Eric-

That was my original thinking, and i'm still leaning that way. However, we asked a question and got some feedback, which caused us to ask some questions that we hadn't thought to ask ourselves previously....following me? Anyways, this is why feedback ROCKS!! Sometimes a different set of eyes allows you to see things differently. we've got a couple ideas but they have to simmer for a couple days.

Thanks for the feedback. keep it coming.

Richard Cullip
(RichardCullip) - M

Locale: San Diego County
Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 16:36:38 MDT Print View

My choice would be same capacity but lighter.

Chad B
(CenAZwalker) - F

Locale: Southwest
Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 16:50:34 MDT Print View

Same capacity, lighter. I've been using the UL micro every trip to Grand Canyon and it works like a champ. The raven's haven't picked it apart yet..

David Brandenberg
(daveinflag) - F

Locale: High Desert
Re: Re: Outsak UL is getting a makeover. We want your feedback. on 07/03/2013 17:10:48 MDT Print View

Thank you for the compliment. It's about using the right tool for the job.

The new bags will be equally effective. We haven't compromised the bags ability to frustrate most animals.

There is dead weight in the UL series. If we trim some dead weight we can add usable weight, or just get rid of the weight.

Edited by daveinflag on 07/03/2013 17:12:03 MDT.

Richard Reno
(scubahhh) - M

Locale: White Mountains, mostly.
Make it bear proof? on 07/03/2013 17:23:46 MDT Print View

Seems like with whatever new material or construction you have available, you might be able to do it better, lighter, and cheaper than Ursack or any of the rigid containers, eh?